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Wow incredible, I’m sure the us never did “strategic strikes” with missiles before AI. Dont be retarded; it’s much cheaper to pay some wash out CIA desk slave to manually guide the missile. Outside of basic scraping or coding AI is useless and a waste of money. Absolute best case scenario you get to replace some workers but then you stifle the movement of money in the economy and shoot yourself in the foot when there are fewer customers to buy your shit
Westoids are so fucking soft it's unreal. You have a static building with mostly non-moving parts that consumes electricity and produces heat. This is the most environmentally sustainable industrial building that has ever been produced. How the fuck are you going to make steel, when you don't even want to run a fan?
This is baby boomer culture, 100%. Shameful. How about instead of datacenters, you just get a dozen pajeet restaurants to shovel slop into the gullets of retired boomers instead? Who needs an industrial base when you have customer service jobs?
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The data centers absolutely will fuck up the environment that's for sure. And wont benefit the local populace in any way whatsoever unless you consider being tracked by Palantir 24/7 and generating cheap loli porn a "benefit". Doesn't matter where you lean politically. Just the water contamination alone will be catastrophic for the aquifers.
its crazy to think residents wont subsidize the data center. we're already seeing notices from utilities about price increases whenever a data center is proposed. that alone makes me vote no and vote against whichever councilperson voted in favor of the motion to consider.
Utility companies raise their rates anyway. A squirrel could fry its nuts on a power line and a utility would try and bake in a 5% rate adjustment across one million users to replace twenty feet of line.
(They will then not replace the line.)
I’m sure a majority of these bullshit data center fears are just utility companies trying to get more tax dollars so that the boards of these companies can get fat checks next year in order to ‘expand’ grid capacity.
You’re telling me that China can somehow power major manufacturing while also providing power to hundreds of millions on a distribution network that would make an IBEW member file a grievance (but who can’t figure out clean drinking water) but the most powerful country on the planet just can’t deliver power to Lake Tahoe residents and a data center at the same time?
There's no real way to quantify how much "work" a human brain does other than by measuring the entire output of the human. It's ridiculous to claim a 700W video card capable of doing the work of dozens or hundreds of individuals is less power efficient than the total cost maintaining, feeding, clothing, housing, transporting, growing a human in order to get ~6 hours of labor out of them ~5 days a week for a ~2/3rd of it's lifetime. Even if you need a human to monitor the AI output, it is still far more power efficient.
There's no real way to quantify how much "work" a human brain does other than by measuring the entire output of the human. It's ridiculous to claim a 700W video card capable of doing the work of dozens or hundreds of individuals is less power efficient than the total cost maintaining, feeding, clothing, housing, transporting, growing a human in order to get ~6 hours of labor out of them ~5 days a week for a ~2/3rd of it's lifetime. Even if you need a human to monitor the AI output, it is still far more power efficient.
There's no real way to quantify how much "work" a human brain does other than by measuring the entire output of the human. It's ridiculous to claim a 700W video card capable of doing the work of dozens or hundreds of individuals is less power efficient than the total cost maintaining, feeding, clothing, housing, transporting, growing a human in order to get ~6 hours of labor out of them ~5 days a week for a ~2/3rd of it's lifetime. Even if you need a human to monitor the AI output, it is still far more power efficient.
Oh so thats why Bill Gates was making a nuclear power plant(mostly composed of public funds) in Wyoming its for a fucking data center here I thought he was trying to do something beneficial for the public for once but no of course he's going to use it for his own enrichment built on top of mostly american taxpayer money
So I stumbled across a video Maxinomics from 9 months ago, and towards the end he was discussing about how AI data centers might be looking to get the Navy's SMRs to be used to power these data centers. Articles online have also discussed this. It might not be a bad suggestion in the end, but if they're going to be getting SMRs on public dime, we should just go all out on building nuclear plants for the public.
Obviously, there's more debate and discussion, but the SMR suggestion might not be a bad one.
I cant wait for the bubble to burst on AI. This is not a sustainable model and will eventually cause lolsuits for these big corpos who are going all in. Seen some bitch comparing AI to the industrial revolution its all so retarded.
Westoids are so fucking soft it's unreal. You have a static building with mostly non-moving parts that consumes electricity and produces heat. This is the most environmentally sustainable industrial building that has ever been produced. How the fuck are you going to make steel, when you don't even want to run a fan?
This is baby boomer culture, 100%. Shameful. How about instead of datacenters, you just get a dozen pajeet restaurants to shovel slop into the gullets of retired boomers instead? Who needs an industrial base when you have customer service jobs?
You are right but you are also wrong and miss the bigger picture. Data centers are part of the proprietary, corporate slop pushed by companies like ClosedAI and MisAnthropic and Microshaft so they can keep this technology locked away from the public, sell lobotomized versions to the goyim while using the full potential for themselves. Thats fuckign dystopian and why data centers should be opposed simply by principle.
AI, even competitive models with hundreds of billions in parameters and millions in context window, dont need all that crazy amounts of hardware. A simple gaming PC already runs competent LLMs. Of course something like GPT 5.5 or Sonnet 4.6 needs more than that, but the point is these giant data centers are not obligatory at all. Ideally, every company or other institution would run an open source model locally on a dedicated, in-house server. This decentralization would completely negate any heat or water and energy usage problems while making AI more free, more accessible and more private. Then you only need these data centers to train models, but even then you could organize something like every user of a model dedicates 10% of his computing power to the training of the new model.
LLMs are an amazing technology that shouldnt be owned by a bunch of evil billionaire kikes.
Data centers are part of the proprietary, corporate slop pushed by companies like ClosedAI and MisAnthropic and Microshaft so they can keep this technology locked away from the public, sell lobotomized versions to the goyim while using the full potential for themselves.
Datacenters are filled with x86_64 CPUs and CUDA GPUs. It's not that not deep. Half the popular models are open weight. This is non-argument. You may as well say you don't want power plants because electricity can be used for non-public reasons. Instead you want individuals dropping $100k+ for their own setup? so it's "decentralized"?
When they hit with the boomer rambling. There's nothing more anti-natalist than shutting down your countries infrastructure. That's exactly what the baby boomers did. They fucking rotted out their own country because the idea of factories and making shit offended their sensibilities. Boomers have been do-nothing, play-pretend faggots for the past 40 years. Doing exactly this type of shit. "Uh, we should do something.", "Uh, actually no, I don't want to do anything, ever. I'd going to outsource everything to another country and that's fine because my government paycheck keeps showing up every month. Fuck the future, fuck the kids, lmao."
Datacenters are filled with x86_64 CPUs and CUDA GPUs. It's not that not deep. Half the popular models are open weight. This is non-argument. You may as well say you don't want power plants because electricity can be used for non-public reasons. Instead you want individuals dropping $100k+ for their own setup? so it's "decentralized"?
Yeah, even if you disregard the open source sperging then I dont see a reason not to have several smaller data centers instead of one big one. If you want to go really into the future then every house or apartment block or office building will come with its own inbuilt server for personal use, like a garage or AC today.
There's nothing more anti-natalist than shutting down your countries infrastructure. That's exactly what the baby boomers did. They fucking rotted out their own country because the idea of factories and making shit offended their sensibilities. Boomers have been do-nothing, play-pretend faggots for the past 40 years. Doing exactly this type of shit.
Some of this is a chicken or the egg, I knew some older folks when they talked about the intensive china-tier pollution in and around cities back then done by our industrial base and pre-catalytic converter cars which propped up initial interests groups in scaling it back which coincided with multiple good and bad faith organizations that caused the mass outsourcing. For the owners the over encompassing regulations and laws for the pollution output seriously hampered profit margins and ability to compete with the global markets in the long term(especially since there no longer any incentives from the government since ww2 was long done), though a good chunk of the initial regulations were common-sense shit then preferential stuff like factories not outputting at certain times so nearby residencies wouldn't have to experience smells/pollution as much during the normal day-to-day hours, to finally the all familiar modern hyper corruption to justify an evergrowing bureaucracy of government employees(and NGOs which will be covered in the next paragraph) with inflated wages, not to mention the rise of unions and subsequent corruption heavily soured the flexibility of the American domestic market for would be industrialists.
The biggest problem of interest groups in America is that their propped up by money and people who are essentially employed to solve/campaign a specific problem raised up by the funds of the initial concerned citizenry or donors, this being a problem is when it essentially gets solved with the introduction of catalytic converters for cars and reasonable regulations for factories and zoning laws are accomplished their already this snowball effect of an ongoing organization of employed people so the logical next step every time is to change the goalpost ad infinitum to perpetually justify its own existence, basically the cobra effect, it's also the reason why most things suck ass currently.
Finally, though babyboomers through their big dick massive influential voting demographic were a major reason half of these came to be, it wasn't entirely their fault since most of the aforementioned were already in motion before they even got out of their diapers and they specifically grew up in the times of the cold war, encompassing pollution in cities and the general hysteria lumped at the feet of nuclear energy was mostly from the fears of the nuclear holocaust, local pollution, long term waste management for used rods and later on the three mile incident along with chernobyl bolstered the already established concerns about it, the major error being that they were a young generation given too much power without much wisdom so soon and made rash decisions that got cemented by the previously explained factors. They had optimism in the incorrect direction, in that humans always find alternatives and solutions to bridge the gap of problems but their decision was to shy away from the sortable technical problems of industry, infrastructure, nuclear power to find hope in magical fairy dust technology that sounded less dangerous and difficult for their sheltered existence.
I'm a bit of an optimist, theres already several solutions to most of our modern problems of pollution and negative impact on the environment, from bundting with a hoe to reverse desertification, using Crispr to engineer organisms to repair the coral reefs, bubbling technology to float out silt build-up from dams, the problem lies in institutionalized demagoguery in cynical acquisitions of power and taxpayer money for personal gain.
Another Green talking point about socializing cost privatizing profit gets embraced by the Right. First they mock you, then they attack you, then they become you.
I cant wait for the bubble to burst on AI. This is not a sustainable model and will eventually cause lolsuits for these big corpos who are going all in. Seen some bitch comparing AI to the industrial revolution its all so retarded.
Matan Grinberg, chief executive of coding automator Factory, said one executive at a top financial institution told him his employees were burning hundreds of thousands of dollars a month on tokens. Some, the executive said, were using powerful premium-tier models to answer the simplest of questions, or just engage in small talk.
That shift to usage-based pricing has forced enterprise customers to reckon with their consumption. An Uber executive said by March, the company had blown through its annual budget for agentic, or autonomous, AI use. Microsoft limited access to an Anthropic program for some employees who can use an internal coding assistant instead. Salesforce introduced a system for tracking how token use ultimately contributes to positive business outcomes.
