United States Data Center Watch

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In the United States, data center construction is surging is in the last couple years thanks to the currently ongoing AI boom and the allure of state-provided tax breaks. Those seeking to build them have encountered opposition from those who don't like the ideas of noise pollution, outdoor aesthetic destruction (most data centers are being built in rural areas), the potential for water pollution, their minimal job creation once they are operational, possible power bill increases and the inherent logistical hurdles considering the amount of power they are purported to require.
 
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I wonder how many will actually end up being built. So much of this is Enron accounting.
That is a big issue. You also got power and water.

I'm in a state where one of these things is being built, the Utah one. It will use twice the entire power usage of the entire state and use 40k acres total.

My question is just, why? Sure AI, jobs the obvious answers. That's the sales pitch. Personally I don't buy that.

I feel it's going to import a lot of out of state retards into red areas, a lot of H1B's, and other than the power and water considerations, which you might be able to overcome, there is a question of what they're doing with all these machines. You can't tell me people aren't going to get spied on.

"But china" Yes, China is working on AI. We should too. We shouldn't be ignoring and railroading the people that live in these states to build these centers with actual concerns. Not retarded concerns, but actual ones.
 
There are vicious fights over these centers because they fuck over everyone in the area. Water. Power. Pollution. The job creation after construction is less than a McDonalds.
 
I'm in a state where one of these things is being built, the Utah one. It will use twice the entire power usage of the entire state and use 40k acres total.
Not to mention the ongoing crisis of the Great Salt Lake basically drying up. So they add yet another resource hogging industry to the mix that will make agricultural water use (which is already absurd) look like a joke?

Is Utah okay?
 
Not to mention the ongoing crisis of the Great Salt Lake basically drying up. So they add yet another resource hogging industry to the mix that will make agricultural water use (which is already absurd) look like a joke?

Is Utah okay?
We have RINOS. Also a set of bad constitutional state amendments that gutted the Cacuas system that might have prevented some of this. Also imports. People keep coming here, they aren't part of the culture, and in fact hate it.

As for the environmental issues, I think they can be overcome depending on the cooling systems in place. Energy is a concern. We are trapped in the bottom of a old lake bed, with an inversion that can only be cleared by rain or snow. Burning 9gw of nat gas isn't optimal. I don't think it's the end of the world, but it's not great.
 
gonna drop this here. you guys NEED to see it for yourselves
the USA is dead
I will not cry if a datacenter burns to the ground.
depending on which side of the government is in power when you express that opinion it will get you either designated as a commie nigger criminal lawbreaker or an incel nazi homophobe mass shooter. the people who want everything bulldozed for these centers control both sides of the aisle. to them we are just overconfident nails sticking out, begging to be hammered the fuck down with extreme and brutal prejudice for the unforgivable crime of self respect. and you will believe it is true, the right thing, your destiny, to be oppressed; not on the obvious, mass level, but on the individual mind degree.
 
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I wonder how many will actually end up being built. So much of this is Enron accounting.
I work in a non-AI data center and all our small clients are just getting raped by hardware costs.
I'm wondering more what happens if the music stops, the AI bubble fizzles like the "Metaverse", smart glasses, etc, and the data centers turn out to be massively overbuilt.

Will they simply get sold at big discounts to companies lower on the food chain? Components liquidated and buildings demolished? Repurposed for on-demand cloud computing?
 
Am I the only one who thinks the data center hate is a bit silly?
It’s an artificial hatred spurned on by literal Redditors, much like car hate. The through-line of all this from mediocre artists realizing their work, which they are unwilling to improve on, just got automated away to now, where they need to tack on contrived issues like water waste to justify their hatred is kind of wild. The humorous part is the usage of the word “clanker” belying even the most supposedly racial equist’s inherent desire to use racial slurs.
 
Am I the only one who thinks the data center hate is a bit silly?
To be honest I don't know. On the one hand you have the reddit tier luddites that hate any industry/progress, especially tied to AI, and think anything other than riding bicycles and eating bugs is ecocide. On the other you have corpo scum that would absolutely rape our water supply, triple our power costs, poison us, and expect us to pay for it, all so they could make their line go up another day.

I don't trust either side as they are only self interested. The well being of us or our country as a whole is not on their radar. So I don't really know where to come down on it...
 
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