United States Data Center Watch


Whats going to happen is you will see all of these people who are pushing for these data centers flee the country too cause they are about to get sued to oblivion from big corps who dumped literal billions into an unsustainable model. Honestly the way AI is going to go is as a pay to play model and its going to cost a shit ton. You literally cant replace everything with AI like some people think.
 
Whats going to happen is you will see all of these people who are pushing for these data centers flee the country too cause they are about to get sued to oblivion from big corps who dumped literal billions into an unsustainable model. Honestly the way AI is going to go is as a pay to play model and its going to cost a shit ton. You literally cant replace everything with AI like some people think.

This is the truth and why it's necessary for anyone who's paying attention to download and run models locally. By 2030, every normie will be priced out of AI or they'll be using nerfed versions that are essentially Google.
 
This is the truth and why it's necessary for anyone who's paying attention to download and run models locally. By 2030, every normie will be priced out of AI or they'll be using nerfed versions that are essentially Google.
Unless youre a corporate entity you wont be using any AI at all. Thats the way its going to be. Other then being an unsustainable model people need to realize the legal ramifications of using AI to use someone's likeness. There will be lawsuits up the ass from celebrities for people using there likeness in AI videos and images.
 
If data centers are so bad, why are the Chinese so anti-data centers in the west?
Just asking questions!
China's already warned company CEOs they will be shoved in the execution van if they cause a jobs crisis with AI unlike here in the west. They're scared of economic pain and unrest, but its a smarter decision than the US is implementing. Xi wants the power of AI for his military, but he doesn't want it wrecking havoc on the market. The US on the other hand has an AI bubble.
 
Data Centers are good and are critical to the advancement of the US interests and infrastructure. Also, AI will replace Indians and is one of the quickest ways to removing foreign "talent" from our job market.
If data centers are so bad, why are the Chinese so anti-data centers in the west?

Just asking questions!
Muhammad the Palestinian socialist said it was going to take our jobs (from 3rd worlders) and ruin the water (I don't know what closed loop cooling is). I don't consider these things because I have the attention span of a stoned squirrel.
 
I suspect there's going to be an AI datacenter crash, or I hope so because I'd like to be able to get 64k of RAM again. It seems to me that smaller "edge" models are getting better every day so the giant monoliths are less likely to get used unless AI at the edge goes "Sorry I can't help, I'll forward that query along for you."

For everyone except the AI companies, it's better if your laptop or phone can do the basic filtering to reduce the needed hardware at the providers.
 
possible power bill increases and the inherent logistical hurdles considering the amount of power they are purported to require.
Yep, they’re coming here so this summer onward will be an expensive year for electricity. I just got the notice a few days ago. That probably explains the Indian callers as well posing as energy suppliers. Damn man.
 
I suspect there's going to be an AI datacenter crash, or I hope so because I'd like to be able to get 64k of RAM again. It seems to me that smaller "edge" models are getting better every day so the giant monoliths are less likely to get used
There a reliable guy I follow who says AI's singularity event will be the slop its fed on. Like a snake eating itself. The 80/20 rule is going to cause a huge correction too with how expensive tokens are getting. The smaller niche models trained on smaller datasets will edge ahead and be winners while the giants fail. I don't need Mythos for my small business analysis or basic car/ electrical repair.
Yep, they’re coming here so this summer onward will be an expensive year for electricity. I just got the notice a few days ago.
This is going to be the big killer of AI and data centers. Inflation keeps creeping up and the administration isn't doing anything about it, so data centers are getting acked. I wouldn't be surprised if we see angry crazy people burn one or two down before the end of the summer.
 
This is going to be the big killer of AI and data centers. Inflation keeps creeping up and the administration isn't doing anything about it, so data centers are getting acked. I wouldn't be surprised if we see angry crazy people burn one or two down before the end of the summer.
Trump is pro-AI so I do not see him trying to reign in AI development. So they have laizzare faire to do whatever however they want.
 
Data Centers are good and are critical to the advancement of the US interests and infrastructure. Also, AI will replace Indians and is one of the quickest ways to removing foreign "talent" from our job market.
Lol no, AI can't replace humans fully but it can uplift the mediocre up a few levels. Suddenly those cheap indians can produce something that's a little less shitty than before, or at least produce them faster.
 
I suspect there's going to be an AI datacenter crash, or I hope so because I'd like to be able to get 64k of RAM again. It seems to me that smaller "edge" models are getting better every day so the giant monoliths are less likely to get used unless AI at the edge goes "Sorry I can't help, I'll forward that query along for you."

For everyone except the AI companies, it's better if your laptop or phone can do the basic filtering to reduce the needed hardware at the providers.
RAM prices will normalize in a few years regardless. production wasn't keeping up because it was considered the cheapest part of the machine for years. Devs weren't optimizing for shit either. We'll see some optimization from the labs to meet requirements, and we'll get more manufacturing to meet the increased demand. If you compare the quality of output from things like the qwen models you can go quite far with the same amount of memory with tweaks, it just isn't as practical when you're in an arms race. Frontier models aren't going away, you'll just see less of them being wasted on mundane repetitive tasks (which wasn't what they're good for anyways), and more on legitimate contribution.
Lol no, AI can't replace humans fully but it can uplift the mediocre up a few levels. Suddenly those cheap indians can produce something that's a little less shitty than before, or at least produce them faster.
You're very wrong. You underestimate how completely utterly retarded the bottom 85% of humanity is. They cannot think for themselves, they cannot devise a solution, they cannot communicate what the problem even is. They recite a script, follow a document step by step, and do the same thing over and over again without any thought, like the worlds shittiest machine. AI cannot uplift that because you can to be able to communicate the problem and circumstances. They cannot accomplish that bare minimum. AI can uplift and empower shitty work from someone capable of thought. It can empower the lazy. It cannot solve for the sheer incompetence and stupidity that is imported from the third world.
 
I cant wait for the bubble to burst on AI. This is not a sustainable model and will eventually cause lolsuits for these big corpos who are going all in. Seen some bitch comparing AI to the industrial revolution its all so retarded.
The Internet tech companies had a massive bubble around the new millennium pets.com, anyone remember? And yet somehow the Internet today is larger than ever. It’s foolish to think AI isn’t here to stay. All the technology is going to get cheaper and smaller, more streamlined. The biggest hurdles are the initial rollout. Data centers aren’t just for AI either. Any company that is streaming video uses data centers to encode, host, and stream content. The biggest issue is needing more energy, which is where nuclear should come in. Chernobyl only happened because of the closed Soviet system where the RBMK had already had known flaws, but those were all hidden away by the state from even the plant operators.
 
The Internet tech companies had a massive bubble around the new millennium pets.com, anyone remember? And yet somehow the Internet today is larger than ever. It’s foolish to think AI isn’t here to stay. All the technology is going to get cheaper and smaller, more streamlined. The biggest hurdles are the initial rollout. Data centers aren’t just for AI either. Any company that is streaming video uses data centers to encode, host, and stream content. The biggest issue is needing more energy, which is where nuclear should come in. Chernobyl only happened because of the closed Soviet system where the RBMK had already had known flaws, but those were all hidden away by the state from even the plant operators.

Its not that it is going to go away its that companies are thinking its akin to something like the industrial revolution. Well there will be a presence of AI in society I think companies are going to realize theyre throwing billions of dollars into an unsustainable model. Replacing regular workers not viable.
 
Ted Kaczynski dijo:
It might be argued that the human race would never be foolish enough to hand over all power to the machines. But we are suggesting neither that the human race would voluntarily turn power over to the machines nor that the machines would willfully seize power. What we do suggest is that the human race might easily permit itself to drift into a position of such dependence on the machines that it would have no practical choice but to accept all of the machines’ decisions. As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and as machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more and more of their decisions for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better results than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won’t be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide.
 
I feel like those who are wondering why the fuck people are arguing against data centers to be built are missing the picture.
I doubt a single person on this earth (who actually knows what they're talking about) gives a shit about the data centers as a concept, but the issue is that these data centers for the supposed advancement of LLM technology are being places in spots that people didn't even vote for, are getting laughed out when they try to vote against it, and then the people foot the bill of the company actually building it and running it instead of the company itself having to foot the bill.
Not only that but you know the buildings are being built like shit and they're hiring nothing but pajeets, probably not even adding adequate cooling to the rooms where the computers are at so that's why the fans spin so fucking loud you can compare them to wind turbines which cause actual noise complaints worse than your average nigger bumping rap music from his taxpayer-funded Chevy at 3AM.
All this so pajeets can actually make LLMs worse by feeding them their own actual shit.
 
Data center hate is just as retarded as nuclear energy hate. It's just a bunch of computers in a warehouse nigga!
If the noise pollution, hiking electricity and water prices, tax breaks and mass AI surveillance behind these AI datacenters weren't enough, maybe the intentional hogging of computer hardware so as to force you to rent instead of own a computer calls for your attention.
 
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