The Orville appreciation thread - IE, the actual new Star Trek

[Stoneheart]

And they relied on the Shadows Germans for their military successes. You know what - you're right!

nono, the spoonies are the italians of the 30s and 40s. the centauri are late stage austro-hungarians. but well both needed the germans(dominion/shadows) to fight their wars.

 

[Overly Serious]

nono, the spoonies are the italians of the 30s and 40s. the centauri are late stage austro-hungarians. but well both needed the germans(dominion/shadows) to fight their wars.

By Spoonies you mean the Centauri, right? Because of their hairstyle?

Also, I seem to have completely failed to get a rise out of you by casting the Shadows as Germans. You're German right? Must troll harder.

 

[Stoneheart]

By Spoonies you mean the Centauri, right? Because of their hairstyle?

no sry my brain is fried from touching grass to much in the heat today. spoonies are Cardassians because they have spoons glued to their faces.
didnt read fne enough to understand that you were talking about b5 and not star trek.

 

[Overly Serious]

no sry my brain is fried from touching grass to much in the heat today. spoonies are Cardassians because they have spoons glued to their faces.
didnt read fne enough to understand that you were talking about b5 and not star trek.

Ah. I have seen some Star Trek but I'm not a major fan. Wasn't familiar with the nomenclature. Gotcha!

 

[Stoneheart]

Ah. I have seen some Star Trek but I'm not a major fan.

only the space station show is good. most of the time its a bit worse but there are some episodes that blow b5 out of the water.
they are a bit grey and have a spoon glued to their head...

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I don't know why anyone would think that this was Seth McFarlane being even-handed, it was literally Trump vs Trump in the most fucking obnoxious way, and we're getting lectured for voting for populists because 'it's easier than thinking', callbacks to "false" claims of stolen elections, an insurrection, it was fucking obnoxious. He couldn't even bring himself to do Dems versus Reps, he had to go Republicans vs Republicans. Same thing with his atheist jabs and shit.

You don't need to fucking broadcast your message in your tv show, you're not fucking star trek and that shit is gay af seth, stop being such a huge faggot.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

I don't know why anyone would think that this was Seth McFarlane being even-handed, it was literally Trump vs Trump in the most fucking obnoxious way, and we're getting lectured for voting for populists because 'it's easier than thinking', callbacks to "false" claims of stolen elections, an insurrection, it was fucking obnoxious. He couldn't even bring himself to do Dems versus Reps, he had to go Republicans vs Republicans. Same thing with his atheist jabs and shit.

You don't need to fucking broadcast your message in your tv show, you're not fucking star trek and that shit is gay af seth, stop being such a huge faggot.

Person who won an election under suspicious circumstances then immediately calls the opponent a traitor and tries to have him arrested. The person's first act as president is to start a needless war with a valuable strategic partner.

Almost sounds like Biden.

 

[UnKillFill]

You know, it was a pretty bold move to name the titular ship after Orville Redenbacher as opposed to Orville Wright like you probably would have thought before I set you straight just now. lol

 

[TVB]

I don't know why anyone would think that this was Seth McFarlane being even-handed, it was literally Trump vs Trump in the most fucking obnoxious way, and we're getting lectured for voting for populists because 'it's easier than thinking', callbacks to "false" claims of stolen elections, an insurrection, it was fucking obnoxious. He couldn't even bring himself to do Dems versus Reps, he had to go Republicans vs Republicans. Same thing with his atheist jabs and shit.

You don't need to fucking broadcast your message in your tv show, you're not fucking star trek and that shit is gay af seth, stop being such a huge faggot.

Person who won an election under suspicious circumstances then immediately calls the opponent a traitor and tries to have him arrested. The person's first act as president is to start a needless war with a valuable strategic partner.

Almost sounds like Biden.

Yes, we know Seth is a leftist as with any other celebrity. But there is an old saying, "judge the art, not the artist." So I agree that Seth always done his political sperging and all, but at the same time American Dad, Family Guy, Cleveland Show, the first Ted and The Orville are still fun to watch, and he is a great jazz singer (even if he is a complete simp for Frank Sinatra).

 

[Internet War Criminal]

Yes, and that's what I was judging, the fucking art, not the opinion of the artist. He shat all over the screen saying that "orange man bad, populism bad, religious people bad" in an episode about space fantasy and it comes off way too heavy handed, unlike his other episodes where he doesn't get into that shit and I have nothing to complain about.

 

[Cactuar King]

I will say, the episodes that handle religion are definitely the weakest ones, and there's like 3 of them in Season 1.

 

[Internet War Criminal]

I will say, the episodes that handle religion are definitely the weakest ones, and there's like 3 of them in Season 1.

Yep.

Seth is at his best when he's trying to tell a story for story's sake, but when he decides to broadcast ~the message~ he's one of the fucking worst hacks around. He can't do nuance for shit.

 

[Stoneheart]

I don't know why anyone would think that this was Seth McFarlane being even-handed, it was literally Trump vs Trump in the most fucking obnoxious way, and we're getting lectured for voting for populists because 'it's easier than thinking', callbacks to "false" claims of stolen elections, an insurrection, it was fucking obnoxious. He couldn't even bring himself to do Dems versus Reps, he had to go Republicans vs Republicans. Same thing with his atheist jabs and shit.

nah its 2016 not 2020.
they just dotn fully get reality so they made the "bad" woman real based and likeable while the former preisdent is super globohomo and gets what he deserves.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

New episode is out

Spoiler

As expected, they had to do a trans episode with Topa the moclan teen.
Very heavy handed. However, we did get to see Kylden get roughed up by Isaac, and Bortus finally sings.
Claire and Isaac are gonna do the boofin’ again.
Boring pretty blonde chick is boring and pretty.
This easily could have been a tng episode. Unfortunately.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

How many episodes is this season?

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Wow, another Orville episode heavy handedly pushing right wing politics! Seth is such a Republican!

Spoiler: Orville s3e5 Spoilers

De-transition propaganda episode pushing that transitioning to a different gender from birth gender will make someone feel wrong and want to commit suicide! Promoting that trans people should de-transition and that a parents' choice to transition their pre-pubescent child is just gay indoctrination!

Oh, and the blonde hwite TERF is portrayed as heroic in her Karening! They also perpetuate the stereotype of a black man abandoning his family!

 

[Ensign Faggot]

Spoiler: Fucking finally

So glad to see Klyden's bitch ass gone, though I'm sure he'll return in some capacity to cause issues out of spite. Really, I could sympathize with him a little bit in the first half when it felt like he truly thought he was doing the right thing for Topa by hiding her origins, but that last scene just cemented him as irredeemable. I like that they committed to him being that way though, felt realistic.

In short, what a faggot. Good riddance.

 

[Absolutego]

Spoiler: Orville S3E5

The lack of response from the Moclans to Topa detransitioning felt really unearned. Like the writers were just hand-waving the political consequences away. Hopefully they do something to illustrate it down the line, like any Moclan guest star is just shy of openly hostile to anyone associated with the Orville, crew member or guest.

I also think it was a missed opportunity for Topa not to learn that Klyden himself was a corrected female. I feel we were robbed of that conversation and it would have been interesting to see Klyden justify his perspective to his child instead of his spouse. I can't help but think he'd approach it differently than "I was emotionally devastated by learning this and wanted to spare my child the same pain". Topa's response to that would also have been interesting to hear. Hell, if that conversation happened, it'd give Klyden's departure at the end more emotional depth than "angry traditionalist disowns child".

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

They also perpetuate the stereotype of a black man abandoning his family!

nah they subverted that stereotype, because it's a black woman leaving her family and a black man staying.

SPOILER="Orville S3E5"

I agree but there wasn't enough time in the episode to have the characters react to Topa finding yet another revelation, or having the Moclans show up in costume to bloviate and threaten to leave and then the officers have a platitude talk to convince them to stay. To me, the verisimilitude certainly holds for a government to avoid another headache around a "settled issue" by not giving it any press and actively covering it up. Id be disappointed if they dont substantively address it again, and have it impact relations we see in the scenes portrayed.

Anyway, Bortus has been unhappy for a long while, and I think he thought as long as Topa was okay, he was okay. But she grew up and started to despair as a result of what was done to her. I think Bortus sees it as the undoing of his mistake, going along with this butchery in the first place. They'd never have any peace while Klyden insists on living a lie, so she goes too, but she took herself out on that one. Didn't even give him the dignity of a blade.

 

[IDanceonTrannyGraves]

Spoiler

Interesting to me in that it talks about Moclans saving face and dictating human rights policy. Are they making a China allegory?

I agree with @Quantum Diabetes though, it completely felt like a TNG episode.

Almost forgot - Bortus has a pretty good set of pipes.