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Right, time to play KOTOR (it passed me by originally) before the HBO Two rape it into the dust.
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The Kingsmoot is just the ship captains picking their new king. It's basically the same thing as the little council of lords they held as opposed to an actual democracy.
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everyone knows it was downhill after season 5. the issue is more that it's just been an exponentially louder "fuck you" to the audience each season up until the greatest "FUCK YOUUUUUUU" as the finale. btw, i like how they make a point of making the audience knows this when davos talks about the fact that the lord of light was a huge plot player, and then just "fucks off" after the battle with the night king without another word. the lord of light was an 8-season long plot device along with every single one of his priestesses, culminating not in resurrecting jon snow, but in lighting a bunch of swords on fire and then starting a fire mote, neither of which did jack shit in a battle that nobody cared about 2 days after it was finished despite it being the culmination of events starting in the first scene of the very first episode. Why? Because FUCK YOU, that's why.
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- 10 de Oct, 2014
The Children of the forest won. Brans not even bran, he's the 3 eyed raven and is all the face trees. Makes sense why he's send snow to the wall after he kills the last big threat to them. Having a natural leader with his monster wolf spy make sure the wildlings keep the north in check.
This is just another elven conspiracy come full circle. Around elves watch yourselves.
This is just another elven conspiracy come full circle. Around elves watch yourselves.
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- 13 de Jun, 2016
Arya stabbing the NK out of nowhere still leaves a nasty taste in the mouth, as does his being a load bearing boss. For all the talk of subverting expectations that is a poor show.
I think the NK should have taken all season to get to Winterfell and Jon & Dany been routed and forced to beg for refugee status with Cersei. She of course refuses so they sack the city at the end of series 8, and try to make a last stand in series 9, which shows gradually Dany's descent into paranoia as she is literally and figuratively surrounded on all sides by people who don't want it, and Jon Snurrrr should have double knockouted the NK in the last episode. Dany then realises that she's totally failed to break the wheel and become what she despised and poisons herself. Cue Lannister restoration under Tyrion who becomes an equivalent of Charles II, the merry monarch.
I just wrote that while sat on the bog so D&D have no excuse.
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- 2 de Mayo, 2017
On a bit of a different note, they released the season 8 score today. I didn't think it was possible for Ramin Djawadi to record a turd track, but there's a version of The Rains of Castamere on there that is a full-on piece of shit. I don't know what they were thinking. It's even track #2, which is totally fitting. Imagine someone sticking Josh Groban's balls in a vice and slowly squeezing them over the course of 3 minutes and 44 seconds of that song, and that's what it sounds like. The rest of it's up to par, but good God.
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- 3 de Sep, 2018
Biggest missed opportunity of the episode was not bringing Meera and Howland Reed to King's Landing to meet King Bran. At the very least, Meera should have been present at Sansa's coronation.
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- 11 de Mar, 2019
Playing devil's advocate again, last night's episode was the best episode of the season, and the best episode of any of the post-book seasons aside from "Battle of the Bastards".
Now, that's a low bar. The past three seasons were unimaginative betrayals of what had been set up, and Benioff and Weiss deserve to work on Chrisley Knows Best after what they've squandered. But that scene with Jon and Dany this episode was the first time I saw actual chemistry between Kit and Emilia, Tyrion finally got to make some actually thoughtful decisions, Grey Worm kept his promise to Missandei even though he didn't have any obligation to but her word, Sam was laughed at for proposing representative democracy, the Small Council is filled with better people than it ever had previously on the show, Bran is the best possible choice they had for a king, Sansa gaining the North's independence actually made sense, and Jon finally gets to live a free life after committing to doing the right thing more than anyone else in the series.
Arya's fucked if the cosmology of Planetos hinted at by Martin is true in the show, but it's not like those ungrareful, cunt showrunners give a fuck about the reason their show actually attained success.
I'm certain the only reason I've been this charitable to this season is because the previous two already made me such a cynic. The closest comparison I have to this is the Star Wars Prequels, but at least those had the decency to be George Lucas making his own mistakes with his own series. Martin's not entirely blameless; he should've demanded final-cut privilege for the scripts, and even given how hard it is to write a book that's hundreds of thousands of words long, his pace has slowed inexcuseably; but Martin already did the hard part for B. & W. only for them to fuck up the easy part for years in a row, and nobody deserves that kinda treatment.
This was almost the greatest TV show ever made, but for showrunners who actually gave a fuck.
And what was with that gag at the end about Tyrion not being mentioned in that history book? Do these dingleberries just hate Peter Dinklage that much? Is that why that stupid gag about him butchering Valyrian kept coming up like the herpes virus?
Now, that's a low bar. The past three seasons were unimaginative betrayals of what had been set up, and Benioff and Weiss deserve to work on Chrisley Knows Best after what they've squandered. But that scene with Jon and Dany this episode was the first time I saw actual chemistry between Kit and Emilia, Tyrion finally got to make some actually thoughtful decisions, Grey Worm kept his promise to Missandei even though he didn't have any obligation to but her word, Sam was laughed at for proposing representative democracy, the Small Council is filled with better people than it ever had previously on the show, Bran is the best possible choice they had for a king, Sansa gaining the North's independence actually made sense, and Jon finally gets to live a free life after committing to doing the right thing more than anyone else in the series.
Arya's fucked if the cosmology of Planetos hinted at by Martin is true in the show, but it's not like those ungrareful, cunt showrunners give a fuck about the reason their show actually attained success.
I'm certain the only reason I've been this charitable to this season is because the previous two already made me such a cynic. The closest comparison I have to this is the Star Wars Prequels, but at least those had the decency to be George Lucas making his own mistakes with his own series. Martin's not entirely blameless; he should've demanded final-cut privilege for the scripts, and even given how hard it is to write a book that's hundreds of thousands of words long, his pace has slowed inexcuseably; but Martin already did the hard part for B. & W. only for them to fuck up the easy part for years in a row, and nobody deserves that kinda treatment.
This was almost the greatest TV show ever made, but for showrunners who actually gave a fuck.
And what was with that gag at the end about Tyrion not being mentioned in that history book? Do these dingleberries just hate Peter Dinklage that much? Is that why that stupid gag about him butchering Valyrian kept coming up like the herpes virus?
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She should have been on the small council and probably would have had they not forgotten about her.
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If GRRM demanded final cut on the scripts we would've spent 3 seasons fucking around in Mereen, the Riverlands, and Dorne. He's better than D&D but this myth that Martin has a solid concept of how to pace this story after almost 20 years of scrambling to follow up A Storm of Swords really needs to die. He's as confused as anyone else, tbh, which is part of why we still don't have a release date for the Winds of Winter.
My bourbon and popcorn wound up being mostly un-utilized last night. It wasn't bad enough to be funny, and the parts that were patently retarded (making an impotent cripple king, keeping the North independent "just cause") weren't addressed by the show in any meaningful capacity to be entertaining. The bit with Jon & Drogon was nice, though confusing and ultimately pointless. Someone should've been made Dragonslayer in the process of ending Mad Queen Dany. Also why did Jon have to take the black when Grey Worm and the rest of the Unsullied left to go die to butterflies on Naath? It's like the showrunners were banking on the audience forgetting this isn't set in the 21st century, where we get real-time status updates via the internet, and where ignoring the mercenary army's wishes and doing what you want is no longer a viable option.
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- 12 de Jul, 2015
Elective monarchies have been relatively common in history. The Holy Roman Empire and Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth both lasted centuries.
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- 10 de Oct, 2014
I would have loved a kick ass dragon fight. Maybe drogon was about to eat a kid or something and jon stabs it or sparking some cool battle. Maybe bronn helps with the last scorpion, other characters do... things. I don't care if it would make much sense I just wanted to see a cool fight at this point.
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Not really; it makes no sense to put Bronn in there (nor to elevate him to such a high station). It makes no sense for Sam to be relieved of his night watch vow, nor for him to already have finished maester training, let alone being elected as grandmaester.
I'm sure that Arya sailing east is a GRRM invention, to rhyme with frodo and lord of the rings.
The idea of Tyrion not being mentioned much is really weird, because the literary device is that we're reading that book.
Your analysis about the quality of seasons and episodes is mostly spot on.
What I don't understand is why the fuck would the north follow a stark daughter as independant nation, rather than a stark son? Why the fuck did someone suggest the unsullied start their own house when they're ballless? Why didn't they execute Jon and Tyrion? Why did other kingdoms not choose or take their independance, particularly Dorne and Iron islands?
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Neither of these were stretches.
Bran may be a cripple, but he's a psychic with unlimited insight into the past and present. The stupid part was the fact that the other characters never seemed to notice this until just now. Plus, him being unable to have children was explicitly cited as a benefit, given how bad the trackrecords of royal and noblechildren were in the show and in history.
How they would know he can't is the strange part. You can still get hard after paralysis in certain cases. You just can't feel it.
Sansa wanting independence for the North is at least consistent with her character for the past three seasons. Sure, it's silly given that a Stark's on the throne in the South anyway, but it's at least respective of the sacrifices made by the Northerners.
Having Drogon survive, I was fine with. But not having any kind of plan about what to do about the dragon once you kill his mommy was exactly as lazy as I expect from the Dipshits in Chief.
I just assumed this was 'cause the Unsullied were the ones actually holding territory, and Jon was their prisoner.
Don't forget the Papacy. There's also an electoral component for the position of Emir of Kuwait.
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- 2 de Feb, 2019
Also why the fuck is Brienne shitting on the kingsguard book by filling it with lies?
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Honestly, I'm really glad I went with my gut feeling when I heard the last couple of seasons each contained less than ten episodes. There was no way they were going to cover all the different plot threads and conflicts in a satisfactory manner with only that little amount of time to work with.
It pays having the ability to see the writing on the wall. Mass Effect 3 has taught me well.
It pays having the ability to see the writing on the wall. Mass Effect 3 has taught me well.
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- 3 de Ene, 2017
I mean, technically, Tyrion was found guilty.
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- 10 de Jun, 2018
And yet he still apparently needs a Master of Whispers.
Fuck you D&D.
Well, she told one truth...
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I didn't mean "better people" in terms of "most qualified". I meant "better people" in terms of "better human beings". Mostly because Littlefinger and Pycelle are both dead, but that's an important step.
Sure, Bronn's on the Council, but he's way less detestible that Pycelle and Littlefinger.
I'd be stunned if this was the case.
Mostly 'cause this is the best explanation I've ever read of Planetos' cosmology, and it'd mean Arya'd be sailing to a dark, firey death if she attempted this in the book.