Game of Thrones Thread

[Mola Ram]

And yet he still apparently needs a Master of Whispers.

Fuck you D&D.

As usual r/freefolk killed this one too.

it'd mean Arya'd be sailing to a dark, firey death if she attempted this in the book.

Just like the audience's expectations, huh?

 

[Silent Observer]

But that scene with Jon and Dany this episode was the first time I saw actual chemistry between Kit and Emilia,

If you're saying that in the SERIES finale, that's not a good thing

Tyrion finally got to make some actually thoughtful decisions,

Aside from his usual terrible ones that drove the idiot plot?

Grey Worm kept his promise to Missandei even though he didn't have any obligation to but her word,

I don't give a fuck about Grey Worm. He massacred a bunch of surrendered soldiers and is probably going to "liberate" Slaver's Bay in a horrific genocide

Sam was laughed at for proposing representative democracy,

Yes Westeros is populated by dumbasses and as such doesn't deserve the better living standards of modernity

the Small Council is filled with better people than it ever had previously on the show,

Yeah, like Bronn, the untrustworthy mercenary who will betray anybody on a dime

Bran is the best possible choice they had for a king,

Yeah, because Tyrion is a retard and Jon is a bitch with less balls than Grey Worm

Sansa gaining the North's independence actually made sense,

Now that's she done it, there's no reason for the other houses not to. There will be another war in no time.

Jon finally gets to live a free life after committing to doing the right thing more than anyone else in the series.

Yes Jon gets to be a lazy manslut making ice sculptures instead of accepting his responsibility as King, the thing he was FUCKING BROUGHT BACK FROM THE DEAD FOR. What has he really done this whole series besides fighting, fucking, or befriending Wildlings? He didn't kill the Night King. He only defeated Ramsay because Sansa brought back up. Matter of fact, him being a Targaryen meant nothing but a contrived reason that he couldn't fuck Daenerys, which somehow convinced her to commit a genocide, thus necessitating her death.

 

[Judge Holden]

So....has anyone managed to locate any vague explanation why Arya randomly decided to become a fucking explorer?

Like was there anything that could hypothetically count as foreshadowing in the past 8 seasons?

I mean lets rank some of the possible career paths that are objectively and unironically more "foreshadowed" and "thematically justified" by this shitshow than "explorer"

- Assassin
- Sell-sword
- New master of whispers
- Hand of the queen
- Gendry's cocksleeve
- Trainee cook
- Ugly prostitute
- Seafood Merchant
- Begger
- Survivalist
- Park ranger
- Stage Hand
- PA
- Waitress
- Gargoyle

Spoiler: her gargoyle qualification

- Butcher
- Dog Walker
- Swimmer
- Surgeon
- Fire Marshall

Seriously, she could have announced that she is becoming a fucking brick layer and be shown in her last shot to be casually walking a wheelbarrow full of cement to the new Brothel and it would make just as much sense

 

[Lemmingwise]

Mostly 'cause this is the best explanation I've ever read of Planetos' cosmology, and it'd mean Arya'd be sailing to a dark, firey death if she attempted this in the book

Which makes it a good metaphor as to where campus feminists are trying to steer us.

 

[Truthspeaker]

And yet he still apparently needs a Master of Whispers.

Fuck you D&D.

They will need one for when Bran dies or fucks off to the wall someday, and they can't rely on a psychic to do their spying for them.

But I won't give them credit for it, because there's no way anyone who would think along those lines would've made these last three seasons.

Yes Jon gets to be a lazy manslut making ice sculptures instead of accepting his responsibility as King, the thing he was FUCKING BROUGHT BACK FROM THE DEAD FOR. What has he really done this whole series besides fighting, fucking, or befriending Wildlings? He didn't kill the Night King. He only defeated Ramsay because Sansa brought back up. Matter of fact, him being a Targaryen meant nothing but a contrived reason that he couldn't fuck Daenerys, which somehow convinced her to commit a genocide, thus necessitating her death.

Jon wasn't brough back from the dead to be king. He was brought back from the dead because he was chosen by God to kill the Night King.

Benioff and Weiss decided to change this, because they are very, very dumb.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I don't give a fuck about Grey Worm. He massacred a bunch of surrendered soldiers and is probably going to "liberate" Slaver's Bay in a horrific genocide

He was going to Naath in the end, where he and Missandei had planned to go.

I guess they forgot about the deadly butterflies that first gives you a dancing disease and eventually makes all your skin fall off if you aren't a native to naath.

 

[Mola Ram]

So....has anyone managed to locate any vague explanation why Arya randomly decided to become a fucking explorer?

Like was there anything that could hypothetically count as foreshadowing in the past 8 seasons?

I mean lets rank some of the possible career paths that are objectively and unironically more "foreshadowed" and "thematically justified" by this shitshow than "explorer"

- Assassin
- Sell-sword
- New master of whispers
- Hand of the queen
- Gendry's cocksleeve
- Trainee cook
- Ugly prostitute
- Seafood Merchant
- Begger
- Survivalist
- Park ranger
- Stage Hand
- PA
- Waitress
- Gargoyle

Spoiler: her gargoyle qualification

- Butcher
- Dog Walker
- Swimmer
- Surgeon
- Fire Marshall

Seriously, she could have announced that she is becoming a fucking brick layer and be shown in her last shot to be casually walking a wheelbarrow full of cement to the new Brothel and it would make just as much sense

Believe it or not, I called this exact ending back in season 6. It's the conversation with Lady Crane. Not because it made any sense, mind you, but because it was drenched in obvious foreshadowing of the sort hack journeymen like these showrunners think is just brilliant. Does it fit anything else she's done? Not really ... unless you take it to mean that in her wandering in hopes of survival / finding family / finding revenge the wandering itself became her real passion.

So yes, Arya's real arc was the friends she made along the way.

 

[Cosmos]

(Regarding that shot of the water bottle)

 

[Lemmingwise]

Yes Jon gets to be a lazy manslut making ice sculptures instead of accepting his responsibility as King, the thing he was FUCKING BROUGHT BACK FROM THE DEAD FOR. What has he really done this whole series besides fighting, fucking, or befriending Wildlings? He didn't kill the Night King. He only defeated Ramsay because Sansa brought back up. Matter of fact, him being a Targaryen meant nothing but a contrived reason that he couldn't fuck Daenerys, which somehow convinced her to commit a genocide, thus necessitating her death.

You can say the same about berric.

The real reason he died and was brought back was to be relieved from his night watch vow, because he served unto death, which allowed him to fight for winterfell and such, something that would be forbidden to the night's watch.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

So....has anyone managed to locate any vague explanation why Arya randomly decided to become a fucking explorer?

Like was there anything that could hypothetically count as foreshadowing in the past 8 seasons?

I mean lets rank some of the possible career paths that are objectively and unironically more "foreshadowed" and "thematically justified" by this shitshow than "explorer"

- Assassin
- Sell-sword
- New master of whispers
- Hand of the queen
- Gendry's cocksleeve
- Trainee cook
- Ugly prostitute
- Seafood Merchant
- Begger
- Survivalist
- Park ranger
- Stage Hand
- PA
- Waitress
- Gargoyle

Spoiler: her gargoyle qualification

- Butcher
- Dog Walker
- Swimmer
- Surgeon
- Fire Marshall

Seriously, she could have announced that she is becoming a fucking brick layer and be shown in her last shot to be casually walking a wheelbarrow full of cement to the new Brothel and it would make just as much sense

She probably dies in the books but D&D weren't going to kill Dany and Arya.

 

[Silent Observer]

Jon wasn't brough back from the dead to be king. He was brought back from the dead because he was chosen by God to kill the Night King.

Benioff and Weiss decided to change this, because they are very, very dumb.

I know, but I feel that, if they weren't going to have him kill the Night King, then at least make him destined to become King. Make his resurrection and lineage worth SOMETHING

 

[Lemmingwise]

I mean, technically, Tyrion was found guilty.

Who is the blackfish?

How did jaime intend to save king's landing?

How did jaimi protect cersei?

 

[Judge Holden]

Believe it or not, I called this exact ending back in season 6. It's the conversation with Lady Crane. Not because it made any sense, mind you, but because it was drenched in obvious foreshadowing of the sort hack journeymen like these showrunners think is just brilliant. Does it fit anything else she's done? Not really ... unless you take it to mean that in her wandering in hopes of survival / finding family / finding revenge the wandering itself became her real passion.

So yes, Arya's real arc was the friends she made along the way.

Ah yes I just went to youtube and found it

It lasts *gets out old timey fob watch and checks* 20 seconds

Now checking my list of "more forshadowed career options" I can safely conclude that everything I listed is still better foreshadowed and justified than Explorer, even though they obviously put that single 20 second piece of foreshadowing in two seasons ago to justify this horseshit

 

[Truthspeaker]

Honestly, I'm really glad I went with my gut feeling when I heard the last couple of seasons each contained less than ten episodes. There was no way they were going to cover all the different plot threads and conflicts in a satisfactory manner with only that little amount of time to work with.

It pays having the ability to see the writing on the wall. Mass Effect 3 has taught me well.

They didn't need to cover all the plot threads. Nor do truncated seasons have to be a problem. The best seasons of Lost were all truncated. Breaking Bad and The Sopranos both had final seasons split into two parts of shorter length than the standard, and those were the best any shows have ever been.

What they needed to do is to pick the points that mattered most, and find a way to deliver on them in the best way possible. Lost did that as a consequence of starting off on the rule of Mystery-Box Abrams. It pissed off a lot of fans, not without justification, but I imagine even the least satisfied Lost fan wouldn't dispute that Game of Thrones had a worse last few seasons than Lost, a worse final episode, and all for less-justifiable reasons.

 

[Mola Ram]

Ah yes I just went to youtube and found it
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HDetluqgpJo:257
It lasts *gets out old timey fob watch and checks* 20 seconds

Now checking my list of "more forshadowed career options" I can safely conclude that everything I listed is still better foreshadowed and justified than Explorer, even though they obviously put that single 20 second piece of foreshadowing in two seasons ago to justify this horseshit

Oh, no question anything else would have made more sense. It's just that scene, brief as it is, seemed to exist for no other purpose than to set up the idea that Arya would have this wanderlust when everything was said and done.

Foreshadowing her killing the Night King? Eh, why bother.

 

[Truthspeaker]

I know, but I feel that, if they weren't going to have him kill the Night King, then at least make him destined to become King. Make his resurrection and lineage worth SOMETHING

He did kill the Westerosi Hitler.

Granted, that was probably Martin's idea, but we already know better than to give credit to Benioff and Weiss anyway.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

I hope you Americans are satisfied with your shitty ending to this fad show.

Just like Lost from last decade, I completely disregarded this and had no interest in seeing it, and I am not the least bit surprised the ending let everyone down.

 

[Mola Ram]

I hope you Americans are satisfied with your shitty ending to this fad show.

Just like Lost from last decade, I completely disregarded this and had no interest in seeing it, and I am not the least bit surprised the ending let everyone down.

I guess that makes you just as special as every other preening fuckhead who can't shut up about all the popular things they don't do.

 

[Judge Holden]

Actually come to think of it, if they wanted an "ultra powerful faceless man mary sue" character arc for Arya why didnt they just have her go east to Asshai, either willingly after being sent there on a mission by the Faceless men, or is forced to after she flees there to escape them and break whatever magic hold they have over her. On the way there she can "spontaneously" develop this dumbass desire to explore schtick as she sees Yi Ti and Sotheros and other exotic locales while hearing about all the other places explored and unexplored in the wider world.

While there she gets whatever extra magical snowflake enhancement the plot requires, and its there that she reunites with Melissandre and is only stopped from killing her when the city is abruptly attacked and overrun by the arrival of the white walkers in the east, and flees with Melissandre back to westeros as that is supposedly the only place where the new long night can be stopped, with Arya eventually being sent on the suicide mission to the heart of White Walker territory seen in Season 4 along with whatever other characters the plot needs to be there to destroy the source of the problem*, while the rest of the cast tries to hold the line against the undead in the south.

Thus not only is the "arya saves the world" shit given a slight bit more foreshadowing, but once everything is done the desire to explore west actually makes a tiny bit more sense

* I dunno, maybe they could rip off the matrix by having Bran hooked up to the tree where the White Walkers were created and from here use his worging power to link his life with theirs, and then has Arya kill him with Littlefinger's dagger and thus by some magical contrivance wipe them all out, maybe at the expense of the remaining magic in the world or some other ripped off Tolkien theme. Either way she ends the story too traumatised by what she had to do to stay in Westeros and face her family again and thus heads west or east to see the world, taking Gendry with her for good measure since it makes more sense than letting a random blacksmith rule a kingdom, and maybe have Hot Pie along for laughs.

 

[Silent Observer]

I hope you Americans are satisfied with your shitty ending to this fad show.

Just like Lost from last decade, I completely disregarded this and had no interest in seeing it, and I am not the least bit surprised the ending let everyone down.

I've stuck with shitty shows before. Lost, Heroes, Human Target, the BattleStar Galactica Finale. The thing with Game of Thrones is that it had the epic scope, budget, cast, and thematic depth to be one of the best contemporary pieces of art conceived in the modern era. Instead, because the writers seem to either be brainless idiots or malicious saboteurs. we got the R-rated version of Eragon.