Debate user The_Cowcel about incels.

[The_Cowcel]

Has time to wish death on a woman because a man raped his daughter though

For some reason I was thinking there was more responsibility on the part of the mother other than her having a child with a piece of shit. Far from my most sane take of the day. Something just made me think the mother was involved and pointed fingers to try to redirect focus from her and the family. I genuinely don't know was thinking. Utterly bizarre statement for me to make and I don't know what I was thinking at the time.

How is it consistent to say you are doing everything in your power to get a girlfriend when you admitted to spending 30 hours a week drunk shitposting in group chats? That's not even counting the time you spent touching your peenus, or gaming time, or other internet time, or IRL time wasters, unironically a great solution to your problems would be for your mom to take your computer away and hit you in the balls with a chancla if you resist.

That time would just be spent watching TV or wearing out my family's patients if I didn't have the computer. I've never had success going out socially and opportunities on my own so I usually just wait for things to go along with.

NIGGER. YOU'RE FUCKING BORING. Your life is boring. You're boring. You are boring to shit. This entire fucking time you have done nothing but complain. And you know what? It's BORING. If you took the time you spent complaining and spent it talking about, literally anything else, maybe you'd have a fucking chance. But no, it's excuse after excuse, after excuse. Nigga, based off of what you're telling us you can't even play video games right. If you can't even talk about something you claim to love with any kind of excitement, then what the flying fuck are you doing?

If I knew what I was doing I wouldn't be in this place to begin with. I never even claimed to love video games, they're just my primary way of wasting time. I've been trying to make progress being more interesting but progress is slow, I've got more plans coming up and I have been more social but time will tell if it amounts to anything sustainable.

Well then become a tranny, you fucking nigger

I may be an autistic woman hating incel, but at least I'm not gullible enough to ruin my body for a doomed larp.

Prepare ahead of time. Get AI to help you come up with questions or how to raise and assert concerns. "I'm too timid" is a description of a current/ historical experience, not an end-point.

I'll prepare some notes before the next session I suppose, probably something I should have started doing along time ago.

I know. That's why I say just do x, y, z whether it grabs you or not, stick with it, then see how things go. If no spark, learn another thing. If spark, keep going. Even having spent some time doing something and deciding not to do it more makes you more interesting than never doing anything.

I gave you easy things like taking a walk. Instead of saying, "I don't like walking but maybe I could start just standing next to a river for 10 minutes," you just go to,"I don't like anything.". You don't like anything because you refuse to do anything. Not everything is going to be easy or comfortable. You have to make yourself do things anyway. Otherwise you're in a cage of your own making, key in hand, but claiming the door is closed so you can't get out.

In fairness I have recently started practicing billiards(your mention of going to the pool reminded me of the game) and am planning at making another attempt getting into the RC hobby so it's not like I've been completely idle as of late

You are a horrifically mentally ill 100% guaranteed abusive man who will never love a woman because you hate women. Noone will ever love you either.

I don't actually hate women as individuals in most cases. and if I had one I'd ensure she felt loved, happy and content and I would try to keep her from doing anything too dumb. I'd probably be better for her than most men.

 

[Joined 2024]

I'm just gonna say, incels will keep on existing thanks to random genetic recombination. Unless we implement genetic editing sometime in the future, that is. Actually, it is already being done, but as far as i know only rich people have access to it. It is extremely unlikely that the general population will be genetically edited to eliminate not only incels, but other individuals with traits that may be deemed "undesirable". After all, the ellites need someone to be below them and do the hard work for them, and this logically would be the fate of the "incel" part of the population in an hypothetical future. It's simple math that there's always someone who has to be at the bottom and another one at the top, hierarchies will always exist. So incels will probably be around for as long as humanity exists. But i guess i'm getting off track. Right now, there's not really much you can do about dating other than getting extremely lucky, i'm afraid. No matter what you do, if you don't cut it then you don't cut it.

Seriously though: look man, i get your struggles and all, but you need to be realistic and learn to live alone. I know that it sounds absolutely ridiculous, but it is the best option right now at this time of history in your case. There's nothing you or I or anyone else can do to change the fact that some people are not attractive or are not wanted. I have been in a similar spot to you, but raging only brings you even more misery. I am lonely as fuck too, but i guess with age, i have kind of learned to be at peace with that. Not completely, i still have my breakdowns, but it's nowhere near as bad as it once was. I just cut all contact with people online that i knew were using me and did not actually care about me and that improved my life a lot. I stopped caring about impressing or winning over women who did not appreciate me as a person. I am technically an incel and i truly believe in the core tenets of the bp, but sometimes, learning to give up (in a healthy way, i guess) is really the best course of action. I have my copes and nice food and my series. If women don't like you, you cannot force that attraction. Though i acknowledge reproducing is perhaps the most intense biological drive at least for men, you can still live without it. It's really really hard, but it's possible. I plan on making money once i finish my career and if i don't have anybody, then i will spend it on my wellbeing. In the end you just have to take care of yourself. as dumb as it may initially sound.

 

[crazedaze]

Women are always looking to "improve" the genes of the next generation even if it means reproducing with a misogyinistic woman beater

we live in a gynocracy

Female nature cannot be overriden, you can't take the biology out of women no matter what you do.

Intelligent men might make better boyfriends, but women are not selecting for them, they are selecting for the drug dealers and the tall bullies, so it doesn't matter.

Another misogynistic victim who identifies with op. Funny how that works

 

[Burning Bridge]

I generally stay out of these "reaffirm your own positions by lambasting some poor sod" threads, but one thing stood out:

When thoughts are running like that, tell them to stop, then will yourself to blankness and focus just on the physical thing you're doing. Tell the thoughts to shut up, and keep returning to a mental blank wall. It will last one second, maybe two, to start. But with consistent effort, the time without those things running through your head will extend. And over longer time, you'll be more able to identify when unhelpful words run through your mind and be more able to silence them. And eventually there will be whole blocks of time without them when you are fully engaged in some activity.

It is hard at first. But it is one of the absolute best things to practice and learn.

They told me that, too. I even tried to stop thinking entirely to get them to go away. It doesn't work. At some point you just have to figure out how to live with constant negativity.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

I generally stay out of these "reaffirm your own positions by lambasting some poor sod" threads, but one thing stood out:

They told me that, too. I even tried to stop thinking entirely to get them to go away. It doesn't work. At some point you just have to figure out how to live with constant negativity.

My experience has been different. How long did you practice, all day, everyday? It can take awhile to undo decades of un/subconscious thinking.

But to be clear, Im not suggesting that if you just try hard enough it will all disappear in a poof, or that one thing alone will solve everything. But it is certainly possible to knock it down a peg or thousand, which can put a person in a much better (manageable) place.

Also: being aware of it is important. Even just knowing what is happening as a "thing" rather than a truth and demoting it to noise can improve things a great deal.

 

[Starefag]

I generally stay out of these "reaffirm your own positions by lambasting some poor sod" threads

I think they're funny.
Generally if you're a disruptive enough sperg to get your conversation moved to mass debates you probably deserve to have rocks thrown at you. At least for a little while

 

[Burning Bridge]

How long did you practice, all day, everyday? It can take awhile to undo decades of un/subconscious thinking.

Not all day, maintaining discipline like that isn't easy, but everyday for a few months minimum. The only real, practical use it gave me was the ability to nip panic attacks in the bud. It had been something I was doing for a long time anyway; I first taught myself how to meditate like that as a kid trying to avoid nightmares. Now I use it to get any sleep at all.

But to be clear, Im not suggesting that if you just try hard enough it will all disappear in a poof, or that one thing alone will solve everything. But it is certainly possible to knock it down a peg or thousand, which can put a person in a much better (manageable) place.

It's more like building up a tolerance against poison. With exposure comes resistance, assuming it doesn't completely destroy you outright.

 

[Celestial Peace]

@The_Cowcel, after reading your posts, the only thing I can say to you that can make a difference is: deal with it.

Like, seriously, deal with the fact you'll never be loved by a woman in your life. I say this unironically.

Shrinks will only try to make you mimick normal behavior which will convince no one, because you're too much of a sperg to pull it off and because shrinks are either whores or faggots who are there for your money. No exception. If you're going to waste your money with some whore, do it with one who gives you a blowjob in exchange.

And if any douchebag tell you "U GOTTA PRACTICE UR SOCIAL SKILLZ XDDD!!!", forget it, you either have it in you or you don't. Anyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot or a liar.

Not to mention, a real man doesn't need shrinks because therapy is for women to cry and moan about their problems and for emasculated failures.

I mean, you're still a failure, but take the failure like a man. Tell society and normies to shove it, embrace your inceldom and tell everybody else to fuck off. In the meantime, go after something to do for yourself, not to fit into some group, not to impress women, nothing of that shit.

A real man don't go making a scene about his issues or complain about them to people who'll most likely not give a fuck. He either finds a solution or, if he's going to embarrass himself to the point of social death and has any remnant of honor, he becomes "an hero", because if you're going to make a fool of yourself for everybody to remember always, it's better to be dead. At least, you're going to keep yourself from becoming an even bigger loser than before.

That's gonna be better than wasting your money and time listening to some "mental health professional" telling you to download Tinder or any stupid normie strategy that is doomed to fail and make you even more frustrated and bitter.

You're free to live your life without worrying what others will think of you, because you've already lost the dating game. Plus, it ain't like it'll solve your problems because relationships are full of drama and issues, which I doubt someone like you will have the patience to deal with it.

Relationships aren't something you'd have to obsess over if you realized you ain't made for it and they won't be the answer to your problems. People date/marry and break-up/divorce all the time because they only care about not feeling alone and getting laid.

Get over it.

 

[The_Cowcel]

Some kid read some toxic positivity and was largely confused because he didn't have an autistic superpower when it's really just a few years of actually learning how to get shit done.

Getting shit done isn't the same as having any sort of interest or personality though. Robots can get shit done but that doesn't make a CNC machine a person. He doesn't just have a lack of ability to do anything he has a lack of desire to do anything and sounds like he's just waiting to die.

@The_Cowcel, after reading your posts, the only thing I can say to you that can make a difference is: deal with it.

Like, seriously, deal with the fact you'll never be loved by a woman in your life. I say this unironically.

At that point why even live? All that would be left for me is slaving away to support a world that has denied me the chance to reproduce or have a fulfilling life of any sort.

I mean, you're still a failure, but take the failure like a man. Tell society and normies to shove it, embrace your inceldom and tell everybody else to fuck off. In the meantime, go after something to do for yourself, not to fit into some group, not to impress women, nothing of that shit.

There is nothing I want to do for myself, trying to get a woman and laughing at people worse off than me are my main interests.

People date/marry and break-up/divorce all the time because they only care about not feeling alone and getting laid.

What the fuck do you think I care about? The exact same things only I've been denied it not due to any fault of my own but due to seemingly living in a different world than everyone else because the opportunities just aren't fucking there despite constantly torturing myself obsessing over getting a woman.

And if any douchebag tell you "U GOTTA PRACTICE UR SOCIAL SKILLZ XDDD!!!", forget it, you either have it in you or you don't. Anyone who tells you otherwise is an idiot or a liar.

I'm not even that bad when I'm drunk, but it takes a lot of alcohol to make me vaguely outgoing.

That's gonna be better than wasting your money and time listening to some "mental health professional" telling you to download Tinder or any stupid normie strategy that is doomed to fail and make you even more frustrated and bitter.

I'm only wasting time since the taxpayer is footing the bill and it's not like I'm doing anything else with that time. might as well argue with someone who's paid to sit there. I'm sure it will be the same shit as always though.

You're free to live your life without worrying what others will think of you, because you've already lost the dating game. Plus, it ain't like it'll solve your problems because relationships are full of drama and issues, which I doubt someone like you will have the patience to deal with it.

Living my life without worrying what others think of me would just be drinking myself to an early death because there's nothing else worth doing if I can't get a woman.

 

[Celestial Peace]

Living my life without worrying what others think of me would just be drinking myself to an early death because there's nothing else worth doing if I can't get a woman.

From a transactional POV, you don't deserve a woman. From a social POV, you don't deserve a woman. From a sexual POV, you don't deserve a woman. From whatever POV there is, you don't deserve a woman.

If you can't have what it takes to attract a woman, it's over for you.

Either learn to live alone or might as well end it.

 

[Helping Friendly Book]

At that point why even live? All that would be left for me is slaving away to support a world that has denied me the chance to reproduce or have a fulfilling life of any sort.

Holy shit you need to grow a fucking pair. All of this "woe is me" shit is not gonna cut it. I've been reading your posts in this thread for a bit, and I can only come up with two conclusions; you're either too much of a fucking pussy to get anything done, or you're just lying out your ass to seek every little bit of attention from random strangers on the internet. I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but you need to GTFO the Farms and actually start interacting with people in real life.

 

[The_Cowcel]

From a transactional POV, you don't deserve a woman. From a social POV, you don't deserve a woman. From a sexual POV, you don't deserve a woman. From whatever POV there is, you don't deserve a woman.

Based on what? I never even had a chance to try. Everyone else always describes all these experiences and connections I never got a chance to have, other people talking about their personal lives sounds like a total work of fiction with how active and successful they are socially whereas I never even had the chance to start.

Holy shit you need to grow a fucking pair. All of this "woe is me" shit is not gonna cut it. I've been reading your posts in this thread for a bit, and I can only come up with two conclusions; you're either too much of a fucking pussy to get anything done, or you're just lying out your ass to seek every little bit of attention from random strangers on the internet. I'm sorry if this seems harsh, but you need to GTFO the Farms and actually start interacting with people in real life.

I try multiple times per week but it doesn't accomplish anything. A large portion of the time I don't even actually interact with anyone because the opportunity doesn't arrise.

 

[Celestial Peace]

I never even had a chance to try.

Motherfucker, I thought you, at least, tried to approach a girl or something. Are you telling me that you didn't even experienced rejection, not even once? I retract what I said, you should eat shit.

Based on what?

Well, now that you gave me proper context, based on you being a passive pussy. I'd take you seriously if you, at least, tried and failed in all of your attempts or if you got ghosted countless times after exchanging phone numbers with a girl. But not even that?

I try multiple times per week but it doesn't accomplish anything.

I can only imagine what your attempts at interaction are.

 

[The_Cowcel]

Motherfucker, I thought you, at least, tried to approach a girl or something. Are you telling me that you didn't even experienced rejection, not even once? I retract what I said, you should eat shit.

Chances for in person approaches have been rare, the only times I've been able to get close enough with a girl to take the opportunity were with ones I had known from childhood that I only even met because of my family introducing me. I was homeschooled most of my life, worked a male only job, am in a nearly all male collage and I genuinely don't know where to find young women.

Well, now that you gave me proper context, based on you being a passive pussy. I'd take you seriously if you, at least, tried and failed in all of your attempts or if you got ghosted countless times after exchanging phone numbers with a girl. But not even that?

Only from dating sites, I've only had a few IRL approaches and most of those those were while I had someone else pushing me and the conversations never lasted more than a few sentences exchanged.

I can only imagine what your attempts at interaction are.

Just going out wherever I've been told is a good hunting ground, having a meal and a drink while looking for any lone young woman but there are rarely any to be found so I just end up going home discouraged.

 

[Sperghetti]

Most things either remind me of my inadequacies or leave me with too much time to dwell on my thoughts.

That’s actually good for you, though.

I think a large part of your problem is that truly self-critical thoughts are overwhelming to you, so you’ve conditioned yourself to push them away rather than actually explore them. You think you haven’t because you’re willing to admit your bad habits and shortcomings just enough to wallow in self-pity about them, like you are in this thread. But the ability to really, fully explore why they’re there there and how to change them is stifled, because it’s much easier and more comfortable for you to just think that things are hopeless and everything would be better if only people liked you.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

I've been trying to make progress being more interesting but progress is slow

LEARN TO FUCKING TALK ABOUT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW HOW YOU BECOME INTERESTING? YOU FUCKING KNOW THINGS AND CAN TALK ABOUT THEM. FUCK.

Or are you going to be hyper-pathetic and say you don't know anything or women aren't interested in the things you're knowledgeable about?

Right now, there's not really much you can do about dating other than getting extremely lucky,

Bullshit. There's lots you can do if you aren't lazy.

No matter what you do, if you don't cut it then you don't cut it.

Congratulations, you faggots have cornered me into agreeing with Null. If Chris Chan can get laid, so can you.

can do to change the fact that some people are not attractive or are not wanted

Yes you can. You can stop being a little bitch, go to the gym, and stop feeling sorry for yourselves.

i have kind of learned to be at peace with that.

That's the opposite of what you should do.

i still have my breakdowns

Lol, NIGGA. Don't talk about your foreveralone breakdowns on the Farms. You get 1 freebie.

I am technically an incel

You don't say.

sometimes, learning to give up (in a healthy way, i guess) is really the best course of action

Giving up is for fags. There's a difference between learning not to fight things and giving up.

If women don't like you, you cannot force that attraction

Sure you can. Do you have any idea how many women sleep with/date/marry men they fucking DESPISE or started out hating? You'll find out very quickly it's every 1/4 married couple.

You know how you fix your problems? Go find the guys who do have girlfriends and get laid and pull women and start learning what they do and how they behave and take the parts you like and become those guys. Your aptitude for finding a partner and having a life depends on your ability to do this. Want to know why women liked the douchebag ass hole jocks? It's because they wore their douchebaggery on their sleeve so women view them as genuine.

Let me break it down for you fucks. Women like aggressive, confident men. Why? Because women are reading you. They are reading what you say. If you're quiet, they can't read you. If you keep to yourself and say nothing, they can't read you and they find that uncomfortable. They see you enough when you don't say anything, you become creepy. The ass hole in high school got your crush because he wore himself on his sleeve so she knew what she was getting into. You? You could be a serial killer, an abuser, a school shooter, or a creepy stalker. Women depend on the information you give them to make their own judgement.

How long did you practice, all day, everyday? It can take awhile to undo decades of un/subconscious thinking.

It really doesn't. It can take weeks of good effort and results to fix decades of you put your ass in enough gear. You have to find your balls though and none of these guys clearly someone kick their teeth in enough to do this.

The only real, practical use it gave me was the ability to nip panic attacks in the bud.

Nigga.....what is this? The Pathetic Olympics?

 

[Burning Bridge]

Nigga.....what is this? The Pathetic Olympics?

Not all of us were lucky enough to escape the push for medicalization of children unscathed. Congrats on picking yourself up by your bootstraps, tho.

 

[Hotmilk]

I'm just gonna say, incels will keep on existing thanks to random genetic recombination.

You're the blackpill final boss wow. I've read your whole post and it's gay af
Why don't you kill yourself?
That would be the most logical option.
Kill yourself, turn gay or troon out.
The only solution if it's joever to that point.

Also attractiveness is at most 50% genetic. The rest is up to you and you're 100% failing at it.

 

[The_Cowcel]

That’s actually good for you, though.

I think a large part of your problem is that truly self-critical thoughts are overwhelming to you, so you’ve conditioned yourself to push them away rather than actually explore them. You think you haven’t because you’re willing to admit your bad habits and shortcomings just enough to wallow in self-pity about them, like you are in this thread. But the ability to really, fully explore why they’re there there and how to change them is stifled, because it’s much easier and more comfortable for you to just think that things are hopeless and everything would be better if only people liked you.

My faults are all things I can't do anything about, I spend as much if not more time trying to improve as those I envy and many of the things I'm a consistent failure at don't even matter, I'm a failure at everything from hobbies to a social life and nothing I've tried has ever changed that. Spending time thinking about how shit I am at everything and how much my life sucks won't solve anything. I seem to be going through the same motions as everyone else but without any success, even my observations on the world around me don't line up with what most other people describe, I seem to live in an entirely different world.

LEARN TO FUCKING TALK ABOUT ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING. YOU KNOW HOW YOU BECOME INTERESTING? YOU FUCKING KNOW THINGS AND CAN TALK ABOUT THEM. FUCK.

Or are you going to be hyper-pathetic and say you don't know anything or women aren't interested in the things you're knowledgeable about?

How do I even get to the point of talking about things though? My conversations die after the first couple exchanges of small talk. Am I just meant to somehow be outwardly interesting magically just by being more knowledgeable?

Congratulations, you faggots have cornered me into agreeing with Null. If Chris Chan can get laid, so can you

He was basically an international celebrity when he had his first unpaid sexual encounter and even then it didn't last.

Yes you can. You can stop being a little bitch, go to the gym, and stop feeling sorry for yourselves.

You seem to be underestimating the looks threshold to achieve success dating. I'm not a bad looking guy, I'm not over weight and I'm not particularly lacking in musculature either but that isn't enough to achieve success in the current year.

Let me break it down for you fucks. Women like aggressive, confident men

Being aggressive and confident sounds like a quick way to be banned and/or have the police called on me. Modern society forces extreme passivity on men, even here on the farms when I've discussed my views on how to keep a woman from leaving it's treated as abusive. I've basically just learned to shut up and tolerate being a doormat.

They are reading what you say. If you're quiet, they can't read you. If you keep to yourself and say nothing, they can't read you and they find that uncomfortable. They see you enough when you don't say anything, you become creepy.

Sounds like there's no way to win, if I just walk around telling women to their face how much I want to fuck them I'll be treated as a nuisance at best and a criminal at worst(especially if I fuck up and unknowingly say it to a minor), whereas if I say and do nothing I'm ignored and seen as creepy.

You? You could be a serial killer, an abuser, a school shooter, or a creepy stalker. Women depend on the information you give them to make their own judgement.

It took me a few reads of that for me to realize that you meant "serial killer, an abuser, a school shooter, or a creepy stalker" in a negative way as opposed to examples of types of men who are more sexually successful and desirable than me.

Not all of us were lucky enough to escape the push for medicalization of children unscathed. Congrats on picking yourself up by your bootstraps, tho.

You too? Amazing what kind of affects can be caused by drugging up children in their formative years.

 

[Goonbase Alpha]

Damn, I always miss the fun threads when they’re actually happening…

After reading through the last 10 pages, I’ve come to the same conclusion as most of the other people commenting here: OP doesn’t actually want a relationship, he wants instant gratification without putting in the effort towards improving himself. That’s why I believe I have the perfect solution for not just OP, but any incel who finds themselves in the same predicament as him:

Heroin.

You see @The_Cowcel, the good thing about maintaining a heroin habit is that unlike dating, the crippling learned helplessness you’ve fostered over the years isn’t a barrier of entry. All you need to do is purchase crypto, open a Tor browser, and start checking out online marketplaces that have reputable dealers. You’ve already admitted to spending most of your time on the computer, so you’re already 90% of the way there! Good job, go you!

The reason that heroin is perfect for someone like you is that it fills the same exact void that having a girlfriend does, but better than any dang, dirty femoid ever could! It doesn’t care that you have no hobbies, no interests, and nothing to talk about; heroin loves you just the way you are! All that self-doubt you said you deal with every day? Heroin makes that aaaall melt away as you drift into the loving arms of bliss and relaxation! Now doesn’t that sound nice? Let’s see those hecking females and the terrorists who deny you their pleasure give you that!!

Now, I know what you’re thinking: “isn’t heroin dangerous?” Well what are you, a fucking narc? guess what? So’s dating. Ever heard of herpes? AIDS? The blue waffle? The only way you have to worry about that sort of thing while doing heroin is if you share needles, and you already said you don’t have friends, so you’re already in the clear! Also disregard any other health risks you read about, they just tell you that stuff to scare you away from being happy because they’re jealous.

Now here’s the most important part: whatever you read about what is or isn’t a safe dose for beginners, take that number and double it… no, triple it. You’re going to want to make up for all the satisfaction you’ve been missing out on over the years, and this is the best way to do it! Do as much as you can, as quickly as possible. The key takeaway here is that more=better: the more you do, the better you feel. Don’t hold back, because before long you’ll forget why you ever wanted a girlfriend in the first place!

I hope that you, and any other incel on this site, find this advice helpful and encouraging. You’ve already got nothing left to lose, so instead of swimming against the current like you are now, why not take easy street to achieving the same goal? I believe things can get better for you @The_Cowcel, all you have to do is take the first step!

Spoiler

/sneed