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Why do people deny the existence of femcels? - ???????
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you can go to the "forever alone women" subreddit and read the self-proclaimed 'femcels' posting about their problems to get a feel for them, i did this a few years ago. you'll quickly notice several issues that are massive contradictions to their claimed 'cel status.
>lots of them are complaining about getting attention from men they consider below their standards
>lots of them are openly and unashamedly fat
>they post about rejecting and dismissing men for reasons such as bigotry, insufficient support for feminism, and various nitpickings that are just laughable when you consider that this is coming from people complaining about being alone
basically most 'femcels' are just this meme:
there are real ones but they are absurd outliers. like, if i recall correctly, one of the posters there was a black woman with some congenital deformities.
but overall 'femcels' basically don't exist in significant numbers. to be a legit femcel, a woman has to be a one-in-a-million outlier. the overwhelming majority of 'femcels' basically just have inflated egos, they'd rather be alone for life than settle for less than chad. even the thought of pairing up with their male equivalent/looksmatch is seen as insulting by them.
the comparison is off by several orders of magnitude
for a man, all it takes to slip into inceldom is to be ordinary and unremarkable in most aspects of life, while having a personality that's a bit on the shy/introverted side.
for a woman, slipping into inceldom is effectively impossible unless some aspect of her is truly abnormal to an extreme degree (like being so mentally deranged that you blow your brains out on live TV)
for a man, all it takes to slip into inceldom is to be ordinary and unremarkable in most aspects of life, while having a personality that's a bit on the shy/introverted side.
All it takes for someone to become morbidly obese is to not want to lose weight, the fat fuck still has agency over their own bodyweight unless they are strapped to a chair and force fed.
for a woman, slipping into inceldom is effectively impossible unless some aspect of her is truly abnormal to an extreme degree (like being so mentally deranged that you blow your brains out on live TV)
And I say that genuine incels are all like that. Elliot Rodger could've had zero issues finding love if he wasn't mentally ill. How many self-proclaimed incels do you think have put in enough effort to justifiably claim they are 100% certifiably undatable and not just losers who've never even approached a woman?
for a man, all it takes to slip into inceldom is to be ordinary and unremarkable in most aspects of life, while having a personality that's a bit on the shy/introverted side.
I know a ton of married men who can be described exactly like this.
Fact is, criminals get girlfriends, hobos get girlfriends, short men, fat men, etc. they all get girlfriends. It takes a immense amount of psychological/moral deviance to be so threatening or off-putting to women that literally none of them are willing to give a guy a shot.
Though, like I said in my previous post, most incels have really just given up. They choose their familiar misery over actually trying because trying is hard and requires self-reflection.
That's absolutely not what i said. I'm talking about them having unrealistic high standards and you interpret it as telling them to be whores? I don't know what's your age, but i'm mid 30s. I remember when Tinder came out and how easy it was to get dates on it. Today, the ugliest, raunchiest and dumbest women will demand tall, successful and beautiful men. If you don't believe me, set up a Tinder profile with some ugly female lolcow pics and see how many matches you'll easily get compared to an average man. Now imagine an ugly, poor one
The less than average woman has so many options to choose from that they can afford to reject 90% of the dating pool. So the "femcels" get in this dumb loop that they can't find the right guy, simply because they get to reject dozens of men
OK, so wow, you're saying any woman can get a man to fuck them and throw them away if she just debases herself enough to take whatever. Dating app swipes mean nothing.
How many incels whinge about landwhales and any of another 1 million reasons a woman is not worth their (theoretical) time or effort, even to fuck (even if they knew how)?
Women get more superficial attention on dating sites, sure. But the difference is that - as a broad generalization - women don't place sex as the ultimate "just get it over with" goal. There's no trope about mothers or friends hiring a gigolo to break a woman's cherry. Yes, women can and do have attachment-less sex (and many enjoy it). But not all incels are without standards - they have plenty, often superficial, but many of them are just mad from the jump because their initial pool is smaller than Chris Hemsworth's and their blackpilled personalities make them both unwilling to seek a peer and unwilling or unable to figure out how to be appealing or a good companion.
So sure, be pedantic about "cel," but the real underlying point is the same - there are many people who legit cannot find a person or persons to pair up with. Even discounting the ones with outsized standards, and there are still lonelyhearts of both genders out there.
Pick a lane. Is the problem in how you perceive things or how people perceive you? If all your romantic and sexual advances are rejected, you're an incel. If you choose to not make advances, it's a voluntary condition
So you've pivoted on the definition. If a woman tries and fails to make a romantic and sexual connection, then I guess she is a -cel. Perhaps women just sometimes tend to get one step further in the process, but the result is the same.
It's silly to be rigid about a definition of -cel. Passive relying on "women get more swipes on dating apps" is pointless. If 95% of a woman's positive swipes are from addicts, sociopaths, users, would be "conquerers," etc., they're useless and meaningless.
Radical: some people, whether due to physical or personality situations (or location, social circle/ lack, or whatever), or just luck of the draw, will not find what they are looking for, even if what they are looking for is honest & true. Some of those wishes are retarded or unrealistic, but even excepting those, some people will just not find it. The only thing different "nowadays" (for the last 20 years) is unsuppressed impatience and blackpilling by those who most need to be the opposite.
This is another interesting point in defining incel. I don't think that incel/femcel strictly implies an irrational hatred for the opposite sex, but that's definitely the connotation those words have to come to develop. I prefer using the term "love shy" for people who aren't hateful, but just genuinely struggle with romance.
I base this on an incel that I knew for much too long. He had an irrational hatred for women and blamed them for everything, meanwhile any time he dated a woman, even one with similar interests, he always sabotaged it because he kept finding flaws and ruining the relationship.
He did this all the time. God, he was annoying. And he definitely was an incel. He became one of those MGTOWs eventually.
The guy was the bitchiest man and he'd trash any woman while he was not a catch. I think the funniest dumb rant I ever heard from him was him complaining about women wearing tank tops and shorts..in the summer.
Incels and femcels have irrational hatred and never take accountability for their problems.
OK, so wow, you're saying any woman can get a man to fuck them and throw them away if she just debases herself enough to take whatever. Dating app swipes mean nothing.
It's silly to be rigid about a definition of -cel. Passive relying on "women get more swipes on dating apps" is pointless. If 95% of a woman's positive swipes are from addicts, sociopaths, users, would be "conquerers," etc., they're useless and meaningless.
All it takes for someone to become morbidly obese is to not want to lose weight, the fat fuck still has agency over their own bodyweight unless they are strapped to a chair and force fed.
completely true, that's why the prevailing sentiment in incel circles is "fatcel = fakecel"
because if you aren't even fixing this obvious major flaw that is entirely within your control, then you basically aren't trying and thus have no leg to stand on when claiming incel status
impossible due to the sheer numbers involved
you're essentially asserting that something like 20% to 30% of young men have extreme and debilitating mental illness, that is not a reasonable position in the slightest
It takes a immense amount of psychological/moral deviance to be so threatening or off-putting to women that literally none of them are willing to give a guy a shot.
you're essentially asserting that something like 20% to 30% of young men have extreme and debilitating mental illness, that is not a reasonable position in the slightest
How am I contradicting myself? Are you telling you telling me you there's no difference in the threat by a petty criminal or bum vs prospective school shooter types like Elliot Rodger?
I've known women who got knocked up by alcoholic line cooks on mattresses that sit directly on floors without box springs. Many such cases. @souschef back me up on this nigga, you've probably seen this more than I have.
I bet her elbows were way too pointy anyways. 0/10 would NOT bang.
