The Orville appreciation thread - IE, the actual new Star Trek

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Goddamn. That was actually a pretty intense episode. Between the first episode's surprisingly heavy themes and how legitimately engaging this one was, I am completely taken aback. Sure, the whole "let's just not wear spacesuits from the getgo" thing was kinda dumb. But, that's pretty much a Trek conceit, so I'll allow it. Making the move to Hulu probably allowed a bit more freedom than the previous seasons. I know that Season 2 sort of lost all the lame jokes as time went on, but it's nice to see the tone's more or less really serious from the start here.

Unrelated, and most assuredly late, but I'm never not going to be amused by the fact that the two male leads from Adventures in Babysitting are both regulars on what are essentially competing Star Trek experiences.
 
Ike Aim dijo:
Brannan Braga co-wrote this last episode and it shows. Dude always had a hard-on for weird body horror.
He was responsible for all those strange later TNG episodes.
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The episode's other co-writer was Andre Bormanis - who as it happens wrote that episode of Enterprise with the planet that had a virus that transformed anyone who set foot on it into ape men (except T'Pol, who was immune because reasons).

FatMebius dijo:
Sure, the whole "let's just not wear spacesuits from the getgo" thing was kinda dumb. But, that's pretty much a Trek conceit, so I'll allow it.
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Not to mention the whole "we've got someone with an unknown, dangerous, and possibly contagious virus on the ship, but we won't bother quarantining or restraining him" thing that TNG's "The Naked Now" got mocked for.

Either way, it shows just how much goodwill MacFarlane has earned from doing this show that he can pull stuff that people were criticizing Berman and Braga for 20+ years ago, and no-one gives the slightest fuck about it.
 
HarryHowler dijo:
The episode's other co-writer was Andre Bormanis - who as it happens wrote that episode of Enterprise with the planet that had a virus that transformed anyone who set foot on it into ape men (except T'Pol, who was immune because reasons).


Not to mention the whole "we've got someone with an unknown, dangerous, and possibly contagious virus on the ship, but we won't bother quarantining or restraining him" thing that TNG's "The Naked Now" got mocked for.

Either way, it shows just how much goodwill MacFarlane has earned from doing this show that he can pull stuff that people were criticizing Berman and Braga for 20+ years ago, and no-one gives the slightest fuck about it.
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Seth is doing honest to god Trek

and he's improved on it (removing some of the bad edge post Ds9)
 
This season is really good so far. For me, the recent episode is one of my favorite episodes.
 
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It was either this joke or a Yu Gi Oh!
reference cause the episode name is Shadow Realm. I think I made the better choice.
 
Another thing that's definitely improved in this season is the music. One of the few areas where the first two seasons were perhaps a bit too slavishly loyal to TNG-era Trek was having the same sort of bland music that the second half of that show's run (and pretty much all of DS9 and Voyager) suffered from. This season they seem to be going for more of a James Horner sort of feel to the music, which works pretty well.
 
I'm sure there are other sources one could compare the creatures in this to but the recurrent thought I had as I watched was Babylon V:

When the Krill diplomats were warning about ancient shadows in their holy books, I heard G'Kar's voice.
When I saw the organic-tech space station with its glowing inner light, I saw a Shadow vessel.
When I saw something with eight eyes, I thought Shadows.

Not that it's a bad thing. But I'm surprised in the influences people have listed that this isn't one. Especially as it's hinted they're going to be a recurring threat.
 
Stab You in the Back dijo:
Had a good chuckle at Kelly's shock that Claire was married. Claire has two kids several years apart in age, so it only makes sense that she would've been married. But I guess even in the 24th Century black fathers have a reputation for not sticking around.
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I say she married some guy named Finn whom is far more interested in Rey.
 
Stab You in the Back dijo:
Had a good chuckle at Kelly's shock that Claire was married. Claire has two kids several years apart in age, so it only makes sense that she would've been married. But I guess even in the 24th Century black fathers have a reputation for not sticking around.
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Claire actually said the complete opposite in the first season, namely that she wasn't in a relationship when either of her kids were born. I don't think Kelly was the person she said it to that time (I think it was either Alara or Isaac), but I'm guessing that topic would have come up between them at some point.
 
Overly Serious dijo:
I'm sure there are other sources one could compare the creatures in this to but the recurrent thought I had as I watched was Babylon V:

When the Krill diplomats were warning about ancient shadows in their holy books, I heard G'Kar's voice.
When I saw the organic-tech space station with its glowing inner light, I saw a Shadow vessel.
When I saw something with eight eyes, I thought Shadows.

Not that it's a bad thing. But I'm surprised in the influences people have listed that this isn't one. Especially as it's hinted they're going to be a recurring threat.
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I mean I like how they keep finding enemies to fight with the Krill.

Thats really smart
 
I can't express how nice it is to be able to sit down, watch a self-contained episode of science fiction, and have it not feature a) cringey jokes, b) transparently thin political analogies, or c) hammy emotional outbursts. I think after both of these new episodes I spent like 5 minutes just smiling at the screen and thinking "that was nice".

The only thing I disliked about the first two seasons is now gone. Seth's dropped all pretense and is just making a Trek show now. And it's good Trek at that! So refreshing!
 
Gimmick Account dijo:
As much as I've loved the show previously, I gotta be honest. I'm kind of hating this season so far.
Just feeling kinda fart huffy rather than earning the "real trek" thing like before.
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I'm here to tell you that Seth McFarlane will never change. Too much praise, too many yes-men.
 
Meriasek dijo:
Great first episode, nice bodyhorror in the second. But hot damn, not wearing suits on the first time entering that thingy was too stupid.
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Some things you kind of have to just let slide for the sake of story. I'd say you can kind of hand-wave it a little in that they're an advanced society where all known diseases are easily cured. So they're probably a little bit: "Oxygen? No obvious pathogens? Helmets off, guys!". A bit like kids who've grown up entirely safe and then blunder into a country that's actually dangerous. I mean, you're right of course - but I find it less egregious in The Orville than in say, the Prometheus movie where there's no long history of walking around on alien planets casually as is established in The Orville.
 
I like how the episode didn't end with Claire (and the rest of the crew) killing that alien species. It ended peacefully. No "yas queen" or big explosions in slow-mo.
Absolutego dijo:
I think after both of these new episodes I spent like 5 minutes just smiling at the screen and thinking "that was nice".
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I was exactly like that during the previous two seasons. It felt good. That's what television used to be.
 
Modern politics has drastically warped people’s brains, I swear…

Glad the season is still going strong. Definitely worth the wait.
 
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