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According to the DS9 technical manual Operation: Return (battle to retake DS9) was the single costliest in Federation history up to that point. This is in terms of ship losses only. Since the canonicity of the manuals are kind of iffy. You can get a rough number from the "Sacrifice of Angels" episode when Bashir says 200 ships broke through the enemy lines which is way less than the 627 that engages the Dominion fleet. I really need to get that manual some time I used to read that in Barnes and Noble all the time when it came out.
I might be misremembering but don’t they imply or flat out say that the Dominion specifically target escape pods? That would definitely add to the death toll of these battles.
Population was always weird in Trek, they’d introduce some brand new planet with warp tech and then turn around and say that there’s only 7-8 million people on the planet. I remember one episode where they say that there’s a planet with an entirely uninhabited continent on it which seems bizarre to me.
Population was always weird in Trek, they’d introduce some brand new planet with warp tech and then turn around and say that there’s only 7-8 million people on the planet. I remember one episode where they say that there’s a planet with an entirely uninhabited continent on it which seems bizarre to me.
Infinite worlds have infinite possibilities, I guess. It could’ve been a continent like Antarctica or somehow otherwise inhospitable, but I have wondered at times with the human population of the galaxy is in Star Trek. We have about 8 billion on earth right now, and they have a lot of planets so it would have to be pretty high, I’d imagine.
According to the DS9 technical manual Operation: Return (battle to retake DS9) was the single costliest in Federation history up to that point. This is in terms of ship losses only. Since the canonicity of the manuals are kind of iffy. You can get a rough number from the "Sacrifice of Angels" episode when Bashir says 200 ships broke through the enemy lines which is way less than the 627 that engages the Dominion fleet. I really need to get that manual some time I used to read that in Barnes and Noble all the time when it came out.
I might be misremembering but don’t they imply or flat out say that the Dominion specifically target escape pods? That would definitely add to the death toll of these battles.
Population was always weird in Trek, they’d introduce some brand new planet with warp tech and then turn around and say that there’s only 7-8 million people on the planet. I remember one episode where they say that there’s a planet with an entirely uninhabited continent on it which seems bizarre to me.
Watch some Isaac Arthur videos about building shit in space and you realize science fiction writers have no idea what they're talking about. If we strip mined the asteroid belt and every rocky moon we could build tens of thousands of star ships. A nation like the UFP could build millions of ships and should have a population in the trillions.
Watch some Isaac Arthur videos about building shit in space and you realize science fiction writers have no idea what they're talking about. If we strip mined the asteroid belt and every rocky moon we could build tens of thousands of star ships. A nation like the UFP could build millions of ships and should have a population in the trillions.
Said ships also have to meet Starfleet standards though. Warp drives are fairly expensive, temperamental pieces of equipment, so third galaxy nations like Bajor or the Maquis would have to rely on non-warp capable ships and probably didn't have photon torpedoes. If they did, that was considered them being having way more gun than is what's expected out of them. And of the ships that did have warp drive, a lot of them are civilian transport ships which were about as armored as a modern oil tanker, meaning that adding decent weapons and shields were also additional costs (of materials, obviously). Since Starfleet decided on the protagonist ship method, they build qualifiedly better ships, but that meant the costs reduced the number to thousands to patrol the vast territory they acquired through diplomacy.
Watch some Isaac Arthur videos about building shit in space and you realize science fiction writers have no idea what they're talking about. If we strip mined the asteroid belt and every rocky moon we could build tens of thousands of star ships. A nation like the UFP could build millions of ships and should have a population in the trillions.
The UFP has a population of over a trillion and Bashir mentioned that the war with the Dominion would kill off most of them. But for the space based industries, Trek never did a good job. The Expanse had a somewhat better feeling for how that might look like in the early seasons: Earth and Mars compete over resources in the Belt and Jovian/Saturnian systems. Mars has the tech advantage, Earth billions of peasants it can draft for the forges and the meatgrinder.
It probably isn't, but I will allow myself to spend the next month believing they erase the JJverse when an ion storm or whatever makes the (25% different) Narada arrive later in the timeline and get butt-raped by the Enterprise:
(seems like it's actually some Andorian chicanery but who knows what's from the same episode with trailers)
I've been detoxing with Babylon 5, DS9, Stargate SG1 and Atlantis, and now I'm watching X Files. I'm ready for your shit, Kurtzman. You will never break me.
Strange New Worlds season 4 trailer: https://youtube.com/watch?v=85nfSzEho68It probably isn't, but I will allow myself to spend the next month believing they erase the JJverse when an ion storm or whatever makes the (25% different) Narada arrive later in the timeline and get butt-raped by the Enterprise: Ver archivo adjunto 9154207
(seems like it's actually some Andorian chicanery but who knows what's from the same episode with trailers)
Strange New Worlds season 4 trailer: https://youtube.com/watch?v=85nfSzEho68It probably isn't, but I will allow myself to spend the next month believing they erase the JJverse when an ion storm or whatever makes the (25% different) Narada arrive later in the timeline and get butt-raped by the Enterprise: Ver archivo adjunto 9154207
(seems like it's actually some Andorian chicanery but who knows what's from the same episode with trailers)
Watch some Isaac Arthur videos about building shit in space and you realize science fiction writers have no idea what they're talking about. If we strip mined the asteroid belt and every rocky moon we could build tens of thousands of star ships. A nation like the UFP could build millions of ships and should have a population in the trillions.
Strange New Worlds season 4 trailer: https://youtube.com/watch?v=85nfSzEho68It probably isn't, but I will allow myself to spend the next month believing they erase the JJverse when an ion storm or whatever makes the (25% different) Narada arrive later in the timeline and get butt-raped by the Enterprise: Ver archivo adjunto 9154207
(seems like it's actually some Andorian chicanery but who knows what's from the same episode with trailers)
You forgot the dragon attacking the Enterprise. Oh God they brought back the contrails for the Enterprise going into warp, please stop that shit. Who the hell cast this guy as Kirk, fuckin' hell it's not even close. It's not even a good deconstruction of Kirk's character.
