Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Like some kind of... digital circus? That sounds amazing!

 

[Midwit]

Wait, really? I always assumed that Defiant was more in the weight range of a Fletcher or Tribal class.

366,000 Tonnes according to the Technical Manual. I've been messing about with Gemini for determining ship tonnage based on listed size and it decided to make the Defiant a marginally more reasonable 94,000 tonnes, which I find reasonable considering the width of the thing, it being heavily armoured and comparatively dense it is compared to other Starfleet ships. AI logic also puts it as being heavier than a Miranda, which is hilarious.

I'm pretty sure the closest you get to a WW2 Destroyer is a Maquis Raider, even a B'rel or a Hideki are closer in mass to a CL than a DD.

 

[Flexo]

Data in that particular episode: was acting on orders to keep the colonists from being turned into alien asphalt or liquid coolant for an alien corporate entity (the Federation probably could and should wipe out but won't because politicians are malicious retards and will never do what makes the most sense).

If anything, the Iran "war" has pretty much showed that's the most realistic aspect ever of Star Trek.

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Oh wow. I know everybody has been making "digital circus is just 'i have no mouth...' for kids" but it really is an adaption of the Voyager Clown episode isn't it...

 

[Phillip Green]

366,000 Tonnes according to the Technical Manual. I've been messing about with Gemini for determining ship tonnage based on listed size and it decided to make the Defiant a marginally more reasonable 94,000 tonnes, which I find reasonable considering the width of the thing, it being heavily armoured and comparatively dense it is compared to other Starfleet ships. AI logic also puts it as being heavier than a Miranda, which is hilarious.

I'm pretty sure the closest you get to a WW2 Destroyer is a Maquis Raider, even a B'rel or a Hideki are closer in mass to a CL than a DD.

The DS9 TM couldn't even get simple lengths for well established ships like the K't'inga right, so good luck with mass details.

I suppose it's possible things like the warp coils and future hull materials are supposed to be super massive, but I've never seen a Trek publication, official or fanon, that had mass values that came anywhere close to making sense, so I'm more inclined to support head-canon values like what you've come up with.

Your value does seem a lot more reasonable. Although I'd note that the latest USN Ford class supercarrier is roughly 300m long and weighs in at ~100,000 tonnes for comparison, so the defiant would still be dense for it's size, even if you go with some of it's larger size estimates.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

Author, Author is a great example of why treating the EMH as a living being is retarded and would cause massive problems in the ST universe.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Author, Author is a great example of why treating the EMH as a living being is retarded and would cause massive problems in the ST universe.

Janeway gives him all this unprecedented autonomy “fine, you’re a real person now, go live your life,” and he's still in her ready room every week going “I need more privileges!”





Every time they do an episode that’s just about him messing with his own subroutines so he can become a celebrity or whatever, it ends in complete disaster.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

Janeway gives him all this unprecedented autonomy “fine, you’re a real person now, go live your life,” and he's still in her ready room every week going “I need more privileges!”

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Every time they do an episode that’s just about him messing with his own code so he can become a celebrity or whatever, it ends in complete disaster.

Are you talking about The Doctor or Robert Picardo?

 

[Clown College 2nd Year]

Probably staged but still gave me a good laugh. Hope your all's weekend was good. I didn't watch much Star Trek though.

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