Leaving Neverland - heehee

[Raging Capybara]

I watched the whole thing in one sitting, the doc is fantastic.

 

[MirnaMinkoff]

I watched the whole thing in one sitting, the doc is fantastic.

Yeah, it’s a lot deeper than “MJ abused some boys” it really looks in-depth at how an abuser, or keeping secrets, can destroy families and how abusers groom children to love and protect them. These lessons apply to every family.

Specific to MJ it shows how fame and money is so alluring to people that they behave in ways that go against every instinct, or turn a blind eye even to the protection of their children.

It definitely shows MJ had a large network of paid staff members that enabled and helped him abuse dozens of boys.

 

[neverendingmidi]

He should have been grateful for getting kicked out of the worst movie Spielberg ever made.

But all those Lost Boys...

 

[Gordon Cole]

I just finished Part 1. As a piece of filmmaking, it's nothing out of the ordinary (I lost count on how many drone shots there were), but I had to watch it in bits and pieces and I still felt sick to my stomach at points. Might have to hold off on Part 2 for a while.

But hey, at least Prince fans finally won the war.

Memology made a video bitching about H3H3 for daring to have an opinion.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bQ3Popm3cs0

Memology's a little too self-righteous these days imho.

I don't even care if he is guilty or not anymore. He still made fantastic music and I separate the art from the artist.

But boy do some songs take on different connotations.

 

[thx1138]

Watched a bit of an EVS stream with Razorfist. Predictably, RF was whining the whole time, and trying a bunch of "Gotcha!" arguments: "Why did Michael ask about blood on the underwear? Hmm? Why would he even think that?!"

...because he fucked a prepubescent boy in his virgin asshole and tore it, you greasy haired idiot.

 

[cuddle striker]

There’s a difference between the criminal system investigating one victim or criminal incident. It’s another when there’s twenty years of systematic evidence of grooming and child abuse. It’s like judging Susan Schofield on one ER visit, instead of looking at the previous 100 ER visits.

Micheal wasn’t hanging out with little boys 24/7 because his heart was pure and childlike. The only grown ass men who want to spend their night in bed with random little boys are pedophiles. Show me one example of a grown man who regularly shares a bed with (non-family related) little boys that wasn’t abusing them. MJ wasn’t the exception to this rule.

The evidence dossier the cops put together after the raid on Neverland spells out all the shit they confiscated from his bedroom. Anyone can look at that list and say Mike wasn’t interested in children sexually is re.tarded

absolutely.

But hey, at least Prince fans finally won the war.


Memology's a little too self-righteous these days imho.

But boy do some songs take on different connotations.

never forget Mayte. Prince basically bought her from her mom when she was what, 14, 15?

and yeah the songs do take on SERIOUSLY different connotations. the songs he wrote that were darker- like I said, Ghosts, thriller... it makes sense now. Seriously a monster in a castle waiting for the pitchforks

 

[Saffronette]

This documentary is a load of crap. If this shit is honestly true, Wade shouldn't be changing his story and blaming Michael for his personal misfortunes. Like Wade defended Michael multiple times when he was alive and now after he's been dead, he wants billions. They tried to claim Macaulay Culkin was abused by MJ despite him stating several times that he didn't do anything to him. They didn't mention Lisa Marie Presley at all...wonder why?

Like I'm sympathetic towards victims of sexual abuse but I have no sympathy for people who routinely lie about it. I am not moved by crocodile tears, sappy music, and drone shots. They didn't show any sort of evidence and their stories would often contradict each other. Especially when time and locations came into play.

When Wade claimed he was buttfucked by Michael as a teen he forgets that around that time Lisa Marie would have been present. And if she saw that she probably would have killed Michael. But, luckily she's never mentioned.

 

[Raging Capybara]

Another pedo apologist who didn't watched the documentary

The facade marriage with Marie WAS mentioned.

Also:

Like Wade defended Michael multiple times when he was alive and now after he's been dead, he wants billions.

Michael was bankrupt, they don't have any money anymore. His shitty brand is worthless, even if his victims wanted billions (LOL) they would never get it, it's impossible.

 

[MadDamon]

I feel for these guys, and I do believe that MJ is a pedo. But before there's any physical evidences shown, I'm not gonna let any sensationalism pieces make me making unture accusation.

 

[Saffronette]

Another pedo apologist who didn't watched the documentary

The facade marriage with Marie WAS mentioned.

Also:

Michael was bankrupt, they don't have any money anymore. His shitty brand is worthless, even if his victims wanted billions (LOL) they would never get it, it's impossible.

I did suffer.. I mean watch it dude. I meant the interviews Lisa Marie had with Oprah where they talk about the allegations. Of course they left them out because she describes their relationship as normal and no diddling of kids was going on. (Inb4 MJ paid her to say that)

And what if I told you that the guy's stories was very similar to a book published a while ago called Michael Jackson Was My Lover.

As far as I know about the 1993 case, Jordie didn't keep a journal. Wade himself tried to make a book like this but it fell through after several people poked holes in his previous story.

 

[OttoWest]

This documentary is a load of crap. If this shit is honestly true, Wade shouldn't be changing his story and blaming Michael for his personal misfortunes. Like Wade defended Michael multiple times when he was alive and now after he's been dead, he wants billions. They tried to claim Macaulay Culkin was abused by MJ despite him stating several times that he didn't do anything to him. They didn't mention Lisa Marie Presley at all...wonder why?

Like I'm sympathetic towards victims of sexual abuse but I have no sympathy for people who routinely lie about it. I am not moved by crocodile tears, sappy music, and drone shots. They didn't show any sort of evidence and their stories would often contradict each other. Especially when time and locations came into play.

When Wade claimed he was buttfucked by Michael as a teen he forgets that around that time Lisa Marie would have been present. And if she saw that she probably would have killed Michael. But, luckily she's never mentioned.

Lisa Marie Presley has had a decades long substance abuse problem. She was a willing member of the most insidious, destructive cult currently practicing. She completely lost her inherited fortune. Kiddie porn was found in the possession of her fourth husband (and her second one, of course— sensing a pattern here) and her kids were removed from her care and placed in protective custody by the state.

You sure you wanna hang your argument on what she has to say?

 

[Saffronette]

Lisa Marie Presley has had a decades long substance abuse problem. She was a willing member of the most insidious, destructive cult currently practicing. She completely lost her inherited fortune. Kiddie porn was found in the possession of her fourth husband (and her second one, of course— sensing a pattern here) and her kids were removed from her care and placed in protective custody by the state.

You sure you wanna hang your argument on what she has to say?

Do you have a source for this? And I mean a legitimate source? I mentioned both her and Macaulay Culkin that were left out of the documentary because it would have destroyed what credibility the current allegations would have had. And when these men went on Oprah visibly sweating because they know what they did and know that their documentary didn't live up to hype. The fact that Oprah promoted this is telling since she was quite involved with Harvey Weinstein. Oh that's right...we can't bring attention to his documentary, Untouchable.

 

[samuraicrack]

Apparently almost a dozen new accusers have come up wanting Michael’s body to be exhumed.

Michael Jackson's body 'may be exhumed as 11 new accusers come forward'

It's been claimed the 'accusers' believe DNA samples will 'prove he abused prepubescent, disabled and terminally ill children over three decades'

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[LN 910]

Oprah also deserves a lot of praise for backing it and publicly supporting the victims. The black community and celebrities are very careful about criticizing black celebrities - they tend to close ranks. (See that idiot Whoopi Goldberg) Oprah had nothing to gain by supporting this documentary. She's got all the fame and money she could ever want. This documentary gets a rabid army of crazy people spitting venom at her and the Jackson Estate's enmity. She did an interview with the victims because it was the moral thing to do. She really does give a fuck about child sexual abuse and took a hard stand against MJ when it would have been far easier to say nothing at all.

Oprah is friends with Weinstein.

 

[samuraicrack]

Oof, bad timing

 

[LN 910]

That's interesting because Latoya Jackson called him a pedophile in the 1990's and openly said he was raping boys. She of course wanted thousands of dollars for her story, which didn't help her claims.
The Jackson family disowned her for a while until she changed her story.

Wasn't that Janet Jackson? I always liked her music better. It was probably both.

 

[Travoltron]

Oprah is friends with Weinstein.

"Is" present tense?

 

[LN 910]

Does "is" matter in Hollywood? Everyone in Hollywood "is" friends with and protects rapists like Harvey until it becomes bad for business. Heck, some people like Natalie Portman still defend Polaski openly. Oprah probably helped source girls for HW too.

But yeah MJ probably did rape a ton of boys. He's got the rapist smile

 

[Saffronette]

Apparently almost a dozen new accusers have come up wanting Michael’s body to be exhumed.

Michael Jackson's body 'may be exhumed as 11 new accusers come forward'

It's been claimed the 'accusers' believe DNA samples will 'prove he abused prepubescent, disabled and terminally ill children over three decades'

www.mirror.co.uk

That really doesn't make any sense. They didn't find anything while he was alive or after his corpse was fresh. It's fucking ridiculous what lengths people will go to prove he "totally was a pedophile".

Like I find it hard to believe that he was this masterful, manipulative monster people make him out to be. On the surface, it's easy to make these claims because Michael himself was an awkward, sheltered, and paranoid guy. Simple as that. People see the weirdness and think, "of course he would do these things he's a wacko."

But when I took the time out to learn about the trials and what really went down, it seemed more and more like a circus. People (the accusers) took advantage of his kindness for money and when the funds stopped coming, they got angry. The easiest way to ruin someone is pedophile accusations and Michael happened to be the perfect target for many.

 

[LN 910]

I think he did tbh, but I don't care if people disagree with me on that because he's dead anyway. A dead rapist is the only good kind of rapist, and if he's not getting money I guess it's fine to jam to Bad. I still prefer the Weird Al covers tho