Female Infertility - General discussion and venting (minus powerleveling if you can help it); AKA the thing troons whine about, but have no concept of outside of being an accessory to their fetish;

[cybertoaster]

I know one woman who had IVF in her 40s, she had a daughter. She looks like a clone of her which is eerie but at least that means the egg wasn't bought elsewhere.

So give it a try I guess.

Where does that graphic comes from? I'm done just believing shit off social media and looking like a retard when it turns to be fake.

>Cover themselves in carcinogenic and hormone altering parfum chemicals every day because they smell nice

India is a massive chemical and biological hazard disguised as a country and they still breed like rabbits, so not that.

 

[Nicholas Gur]

It's not a guarenteed chance at all. Not worth undertaking an abortative process that could have any number of consequences on the mother's body.

Instead of fighting against your own biology, there's a lot of children in the foster care system that need a home.

I agree with the sentiment on adoption, but I'm sure there is a psychological drive to at least exhaust every option before a woman just gives up completely.

 

[We Are The Witches]

Damn, even on this thread you get gender war retards, it's their whole life.

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I'd suggest to seriously consider adopting, if that's a thing that works for you and your partner, and give the child lots of love.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

It's not a guarenteed chance at all. Not worth undertaking an abortative process that could have any number of consequences on the mother's body.

Instead of fighting against your own biology, there's a lot of children in the foster care system that need a home.

okay i get it. but the side effects and might not work is like any other medical procedure: it is up to the person to make that choice themselves. mayb for OP the risk/rewards are worth it, i cant say.
as for adoption, i get that argument and think it is noble. if you adopt then you have my admiration. in my personal view i want children and i want them to be mine. id be open to adoption, but only if it were not possible for me to have my own kids. i know it is selfish, but i accept that. i cant speak for OP on this, maybe she feels similar.

Where does that graphic comes from? I'm done just believing shit off social media and looking like a retard when it turns to be fake.

i dont know the origins,but if that is the legit david wolfe account, then there is a 100% chance it is total nonsense. he is one of those grifters/whackadoos that you should never listen to.

 

[The Crack Spiders Bitch]

OP - I'm really sorry to hear that you're having trouble conceiving. I wish you the best of luck.
Just remember to ignore all advice on this forum. While there are a handful of medical practitioners on the site - none of them are fertility specialists.

The rest of the people on this website have 0 medical knowledge and you'll be inundated with retarded shit about vaccines and hormones.
Most of the men here are vicious and deeply fucking stupid.
A shocking amount of them think once a woman hits 30 her eggs turn into dust.

To other female Kiwi's - if you want to have children, go get your fertility checked!
If you have issues, early intervention is best. You might not even know there is a problem.
I had mine checked last year.
Do not think that young age is a protective factor for fertility!
While I got excellent news, the number of women at the OBGYN in their early/mid 20s that were sobbing and despondent from their results was very heartbreaking.

If you're an Australian woman, the process to have fertility checked is to ask your GP for a referral and see if they can suggest someone if you're not sure who you want to see. The price is steep and the rebate is minimal.
Happy to explain the process further if anyone needs it.

I also work with OBGYNs so, if you're looking for recommendations for docs in the Eastern states, feel free to DM me and I can ask around.

Any male sending me shit will be shamed and abused till he becomes a male suicide statistic.

 

[Obstacle]

India is a massive chemical and biological hazard disguised as a country and they still breed like rabbits, so not that.

True, but they also have horrendous rates of birth defects, probably also compounded by cousin-marriage though, so the effect would be difficult to distinguish, and I can't imagine the people living in the worst polluted areas are the most fertile, though I'd be interested in seeing the data on it, in a nice digestible brainlet friendly form, like a series of pie charts.
Or Venn Diagrams.
I do like those of late.

 

[cybertoaster]

A shocking amount of them think once a woman hits 30 her eggs turn into dust.

I just said I know a 40yo woman having a baby and it wasn't deformed or anything...

 

[HyperboreanRightsActivist]

I'm sure there is a psychological drive to at least exhaust every option before a woman just gives up completely.

But at what cost?

There's a healthy middle ground between being a DINK and playing God just to have a baby. That's my view on things

 

[The Crack Spiders Bitch]

I just said I know a 40yo woman having a baby and it wasn't deformed or anything...

Reading comprehension not your strong suit or do you have a fucking victimhood complex?

Most of the men here are vicious and deeply fucking stupid.
A shocking amount of them think once a woman hits 30 her eggs turn into dust.

I even did the "Okay fine, NAMALT" and you still had a fucking tantrum.

Shut the fuck up, penisnigger.
This is a thread about FEMALE infertility - none of you should be posting here but you just can't help yourself.

 

[The Crack Spiders Bitch]

The man cries in pain as he attacks you.

Lol at the number of men proving the women here correct on why we can't discuss this subject on the website or anything else that doesn't centre them and their feelings.

I told him to shut the fuck up and immediately "You're single REEEEEEE!"
The classic cope of a dusty scrote.

 

[Spud]

I'm not a doctor but shouldn't you be having these conversation with your doctor rather than strangers on the Internet who may not even be real?

 

[Lichen Bark]

I didn't even know this was a thing, but a person I used to know well has used it, and they found this out from a friend of hers, who has also used it and conceived. Some kind of fertility lube. They had been struggling for quite some time, and then they used this lube, and conceived on the first try. Those two women swear by it. One had weight issues and PCOS, and the other normal weight, nothing seemingly out of the ordinary health-wise. I am sorry I don't remember the name of the product, but a lubricant designed specifically to aid conception. Apparently this is a thing. I always thought you tried to avoid lubricants when trying to conceive, as certain ones can contain things you don't want in your body like parabens etc.

 

[Stan]

>Normalize taking hormone blocking birth control from teenage years onwards

TBF it's not "hormone blocking", the ingredients of birth control are more like hormone mimicks. It stops you from cycling hormones and provides a hormonal environment that is sort of similar to the one held up in pregnancy (minus the HCG, which is unique to pregnancy.)
The point is to get all this to even levels that aren't fluctuating but hold the "day 21" state until you have your gap week and a menses. (You can even skip that if you want. I did for a while with Mirena IUD, but I didn't really like it and switched to Paragard IUD.)

>Adopt the 9/5 lifestyle once associated with a full-time breadwinner, but with none of the support of a dedicated home-maker

woof ain't that the truth

I really don't think this website is a good place to talk about something so personal and intimate. Keep in mind there is an almost 100% chance male users will use this against you at some point and leave empty egg carton memes and other shit on your profile. There's tons of bitter incels reading this board looking to harass women.

Yeah but if you choose not to listen to them, then the anger is their problem, no? I genuinely think triggering incels is its own good. Admittedly that's hard if they're picking on OP for primary infertility and part of her maybe agrees that it's her dumb body fucking it up. But seriously, death to incels, death to men, they act like fertility is 100% a women's problem and they can do whatever they want re: smoking, drinking, jacking off constantly, eating fast food n shite and none of that has an effect on their sperm count.

I told him to shut the fuck up and immediately "You're single REEEEEEE!"
The classic cope of a dusty scrote.

Even if they know it isn't true they can barely resist with the empty egg carton stuff.

@cottage crow it don't do much, but I will pray for you. Hannah prayed to God, and he answered her, and sent her Samuel. God hears your prayers too. And for my part, I've heard my own share of odd stories, like an auntie who couldn't get pregnant 'til she adopted her first and then had two more sons. Stranger things happen IRL than anyone could make up.

 

[tygressofaera]

It's not a guarenteed chance at all. Not worth undertaking an abortative process that could have any number of consequences on the mother's body.

Instead of fighting against your own biology, there's a lot of children in the foster care system that need a home.

I believe it’s possible to adopt IVF embryos at this point. But yeah, I mean, hey, foster some kids and hopefully raise them to be normal functional parts of society. One can only hope.

OP - I'm really sorry to hear that you're having trouble conceiving. I wish you the best of luck.
Just remember to ignore all advice on this forum. While there are a handful of medical practitioners on the site - none of them are fertility specialists.

The rest of the people on this website have 0 medical knowledge and you'll be inundated with retarded shit about vaccines and hormones.
Most of the men here are vicious and deeply fucking stupid.
A shocking amount of them think once a woman hits 30 her eggs turn into dust.

To other female Kiwi's - if you want to have children, go get your fertility checked!
If you have issues, early intervention is best. You might not even know there is a problem.
I had mine checked last year.
Do not think that young age is a protective factor for fertility!
While I got excellent news, the number of women at the OBGYN in their early/mid 20s that were sobbing and despondent from their results was very heartbreaking.

If you're an Australian woman, the process to have fertility checked is to ask your GP for a referral and see if they can suggest someone if you're not sure who you want to see. The price is steep and the rebate is minimal.
Happy to explain the process further if anyone needs it.

I also work with OBGYNs so, if you're looking for recommendations for docs in the Eastern states, feel free to DM me and I can ask around.

Any male sending me shit will be shamed and abused till he becomes a male suicide statistic.

Seconding this. Most doctors will tell you not to worry unless you’re TTC for more than a year for under 35 and 6 months for over 35, but even then you can still be tested. It can catch issues like low AMH, low progesterone, blocked tubes, etc. This can save you a lot of time, money, and heartache. Most people think, ok, I’ll be off birth control and get pregnant, but it took me 7 months and I have nothing the matter with me and extremely regular cycles. The chances of fertilization per cycle is like 20% even when everything’s perfect.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

I'm not a doctor but shouldn't you be having these conversation with your doctor rather than strangers on the Internet who may not even be real?

I am real...

Am I?

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Any success stories or other kiwis with experience in IVF

Close family friend just gave birth to a (massive) healthy baby boy after three years of a mix of failed fertility treatments and IUIs.

If you're going the IVF route, I wish you the best of luck, because I know it isn't cheap. My best advice is to figure out how many children you want beforehand and if necessary have them all in one go. I know it's not easy on the body, but between money and opportunity, it's objectively the best move.

My wife and I struggled for over a year to conceive due to cervical scar tissue from an IUD which ended up embedded in the wall and we ended up having to go the IUI route, which, very thankfully, worked.

Anyway, you're not alone, guess I just wanted to share our experiences. My wife is sitting here and says the most important thing is to not blame yourself for any fertility issues.

 

[cottage crow]

I don't know if it's cheaper to adopt than getting fertility treatments.

I have not researched adoption very much. I am not against it, and even suggested it, but hubby is adamant about having his own. It’s a two person decision, so that’s where the buck ends.

Also, I would be lying if horror stories like Stephanie the womb wizard didn’t scare me away from being more insistent. Not that it is fair to perfectly normal kids waiting to be adopted, it just is what it is.

I really don't think this website is a good place to talk about something so personal and intimate. Keep in mind there is an almost 100% chance male users will use this against you at some point and leave empty egg carton memes and other shit on your profile. There's tons of bitter incels reading this board looking to harass women.

You know what, I considered all of that before posting this thread. I even hesitated before posting. You’re right, it is personal and it is a sore subject. However, one thing I love about the kiwifarms is the different crowd of people who use it. You have liberals and conservatives in the same thread often times agreeing with each other on things and being civil.

I am very aware that many users are awful, joyless faggots who get their rocks off insulting people, arguing over shit, and derailing threads with off-topic conspiracy sperging. I’m just not afraid of those people and decided starting a thread was worth the risk, especially if there are other kiwis out there who just want to read about a success story or two to get a little hope—whether it’s fabricated or not.

For the love of God, don't go on IVF. Don't let people shame you for being infertile either. Not everyone is given the gift of children, and that's fine.

I don’t really feel ashamed for struggling with infertility. If anything, I struggle with jealousy whenever a friend or someone I know gets pregnant (and it is always a case of “oops we weren’t even trying what a happy accident!”).

I'm not a doctor but shouldn't you be having these conversation with your doctor rather than strangers on the Internet who may not even be real?

Potato, read my reply above on why I thought it was worth posting a thread on the subject. I am not seeking medical advice or home remedies, merely discussion on a topic that affects many people and probably many users of this forum. When I asked for advice in the OP, I meant spiritual and emotional.



Thanks to everyone in the thread who has offered a kind word, a success story, or prayer. You’re the kiwis I care about.

 

[Spud]

When I asked for advice in the OP, I meant spiritual and emotional.

A bold choice to choose here of all places for that rather than your local community. The biggest factor is are you able to spend time with your kids when their born or is your financial situation one that requires both of you working after maternity leave?

 

[Nicholas Gur]

But at what cost?

There's a healthy middle ground between being a DINK and playing God just to have a baby. That's my view on things

The act of procreation is already playing god. As long as people are using this kind of procedure to circumvent issues with the natural process and aren't trying to diminish the role of the opposite sex in some sort of hermetic homunculus creation nonsense I don't see the harm in it.

 

[anliteralidiot]

Its enough stress and money to threaten any marriage. IVF seems to take 2-3 tries with some additional treatments, yet only 1 try in Mexico for people I know that went there. Its a racket with PCOS the most common lie told to chubbies and fatties as the go-to used by clinics to explain why it didn't work and have you spending $100k. So best advice is to not be fat. Women I know who who have actually had PCOS were rail thin miscarry machines.

My sister has PCOS, and she was bigger when she was seeking fertility treatment. She's a lot thinner now, but she's still got a bigger midsection, with twig-thin arms and legs. She's a health nut, too, and honestly eats better, and works out more than I do. It was heartbreaking when her fertility stuff failed, and the adoption fell through for her.