Do Middle Class White Men That Want Trad Wives Really Exist?

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Married before to a cuck that literally thought it was demeaning to women to want to have children and support a husband. When I finally divorced him and went back out a dating, most men did ask me about my career and were scared if they would actually have to support a wife. But if I looked below or over my paygrade, this all went away.
 
There is another problem with women here too. But half the problem is that they think men actually want girlbosses and in the educated middle class, this is absolutely a thing. Where men demand women work corporate full-time jobs and do all the household and raise the kids and he works so that's enough. Then it is a mystery why men and women of this class don't breed.
 
Naproxen Sodium dijo:
Make a decent amount of money for your area. Not rich, but comfortable, if you know how to budget. Maybe you are college educated, but trades/military are also good.
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I would fall into this category then. Yes, it took a few years, but I convinced my wife she didn't need to work so she could stay home full time with the kids.

It's worth it even if money is tighter than it would be otherwise and the house is always a disaster zone because toddlers are full time messes that love their overtime.
 
A lot of middle class guys do want it but unfortunately most do not live in a world where one income can pay for yourself, your wife, your kid, a car and a house.
 
Naproxen Sodium dijo:
Make a decent amount of money for your area. Not rich, but comfortable, if you know how to budget. Maybe you are college educated, but trades/military are also good.
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$50k - $150k is middle class in the US. That's a pretty wide range. Sometimes it's less about if you want a trad wife, but whether or not you can afford a trad wife.
 
Pelican Bones dijo:
What's your definition of "middle class"?
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Skilled laborer.

Naproxen Sodium dijo:
Just genuinely curious. And I've never found this. Most middle class white men are scared shitless of being the provider.
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Yes I was one of them but that was at least a generation ago. Maybe it's different now, I can't speak for kids these days. My damn kid is middle class and has been in a stable relationship with a nice girl with a useless degree for years but he's not willing to pull the trigger on commitment. Not sure why, maybe his dumb bitch of a mother disabused him of the idea bitches are (better than) shit. I guess the fact they'll never be able to afford a house is a factor too.
 
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Naproxen Sodium dijo:
Do Middle Class White Men That Want Trad Wives Really Exist?
Most middle class white men are scared shitless of being the provider.
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Both of these things can be true. The middle class is uniquely squeezed, in that the poor have all their needs met by government, and the rich can afford everything, while those in the middle face the true costs of things constantly rising, without the resources to shrug it off.

There are also those who could afford a one income household, but want the lifestyle of a second income, without properly weighing the costs that entails (men and women).
 
I'm firmly middle class and would love to be able to support a stay at home wife but I just don't make enough money. 3-4 kids would be ideal and that's going to be tough even with duel income.
 
Every woman I've dated has either also worked/been in school or both. So I don't see why marriage I would expect anything different. The stability of dual-income financially just makes more sense. If you're a tradwife in how I see it online where you take care of the kids are a homemaker and are completely dependent on your husband, what do you do if your husband gets in a car wreck? Or loses his job? Well I guess you're both fucked then in the interim. I also just have a strong dislike for the term "tradwife" when who I see the so-called tradwives online are people like Melonie Mac, or the insane girl Elijah Schaefer was cheating on his wife with. (Whom I'm pretty sure was also married). Or Lauren Southern, who got psyopped so hard she married an Australian glowie and misses him :story:
If you find a woman you truly love, you're happy to be with daily, and you want to be invest time, money and emotional energy into, do you really need more than that?
 
The difficult square to circle re: being the provider is a lot of traditional women have expectations of living standards under a single income that do not map to the reality on the ground. We live in the era of the emancipated woman. Doubling the size of the workforce means that employers do not expect they are paying to support a family with a salary, they expect that they are paying to support that individual employee.
I've had the sole provider conversation with women when it comes to figuring out if our long term goals are compatible and the idea that we'd both have to sacrifice, probably move down a rung on the class ladder, for her to stay at home and primarily raise children is not appealing to many of them. Tragically, I had irreconcilable differences with the one girl who had the most sense regarding that when we talked about it.
 
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