True Detective

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This is the trope-iest season of a "prestige" HBO show i have ever seen.

I can't even begin to list the shit that has been recycled from other shows because it is literally everything.

Also, I normally don't get too bothered by STRONK WOMYM stuff but every single man in the show is either violent, evil or stupid and even sometimes a combination of all 3.

I'm wondering if I should even keep watching it because I'm rolling my eyes at most of the story beats because I can see them coming a mile away.
 
Supposedly a writer had an interview where it was written as a lesbian romance and turned into a crime series.

I really, really fucking cannot stand dykes in shit. Lesbians more than trannies are a sign of something being a huge waste of time. They always have the same story beats when they are a focal point.
 
After watching episode 3, I have to wonder what was even the point of the scene at the start? Did I really need to see a woman giving birth in a paddling pool filled with probably poop, pee, birthing fluids etc? What relevance did any of that have on the plot or overarching story? They also portrayed it as some kind of beautiful scene, but all I could think of was the horrific potential for infections and also the smell.
Give me more of the creepy stuff, like the unfrozen guy in the hospital, or the orange being thrown back by an unseen force. Not pointless birth/Native scenes.
 
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After watching episode 3, I have to wonder what was even the point of the scene at the start? Did I really need to see a woman giving birth in a paddling pool filled with probably poop, pee, birthing fluids etc? What relevance did any of that have on the plot or overarching story? They also portrayed it as some kind of beautiful scene, but all I could think of was the horrific potential for infections and also the smell.
Give me more of the creepy stuff, like the unfrozen guy in the hospital, or the orange being thrown back by an unseen force. Not pointless birth/Native scenes.
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It is to show how Boxer cop and the murder lady first met. My guess it will turn out they were fucking and that is why is so obsessed with her case. Also the reason why murdered lady wanted to keep her relationship secret, as the cop played by John Hawkes said "she was fucking half the town", she didn't want the others she was fucking to find out. Was also a comment about the boxer cop being a lesbian before.
 
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It is to show how Boxer cop and the murder lady first met. My guess it will turn out they were fucking and that is why is so obsessed with her case.
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The ugly nigger detective most likely killed the suspect in the murder case that was being talked about. And the police covered it up because he was guilty and they didn't want the headache of explaining why a cop revenge killed a suspect. Which would be another plot point stolen from True Detective season one. Where Marty and Rust kill the meth dealers and pretend like they were in some massive firefight to cover up that Marty just offed a pedophile out of rage.
 
I am willing to admit that this season is not working out so good for me.

I am also willing to admit that it might just be me: Almost every little piece of this show reminds me of another show or a movie, to the point where even my mom was like "Jodie Foster needs to go through the spiral to connect with her dad!"

Season 1 of TD felt entirely fresh, and the dialogue was just so damn sharp. Part of it is that I've never seen a show set in a South so deep it feels like everyone's living after an apocalypse.

There's actually a lot of world-building in this so I can't call the creators entirely lazy on that part, but like in the first season you had a whole language where two men are sort of talking obliquely to each other, and they gradually teach other people that dialogue.

This season, there are no moments so far like going to the tent revival in season 1, or going to the whorehouse in season 1, where this is how people pray, this is how people fuck, this is where the kids go to school, this is where people go drink after hours, this is the dance of manners these people perform to avoid outright violence.

I'm here for the duration and I'll probably watch it again, but it's not going to be something I go back to for great television.
 
Episode 4 was trash

In the past I said Boxer cop wasn't a bad character just had a bad actress, but this episode made me change my mind with the whole selling ghost shit. No idea if the show will go a True Detective season 3 route or if the ghost shit will be for real, but doesn't matter, was unneeded. And the one jump scare they used was laughable bad and something from a forgotten pg-13 horror movie.

I really think the show wants us to empathise with the step-daughter character, but her actions in this episode made her unredeemable in my eyes and is biggest piece of shit in the show. Nothing wrong with having unlikeable or unredeemable pieces of shit in a show, issue is when the show doesn't think the characters are that.

John Hawkes was the highlight of the episode, he is a good actor and they gave him a bit more to work with for this episode.

Do wonder if some of the issues come from Issa Lopez (director and writer) not being a native English speaker, and this being her first TV show as a director.
 
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In the last week I've seen two or three "What's going on in this show nothing makes sense" articles from normie sites like Variety and Forbes. Complaints about the writing and dumb use of tropes such as the young deputies wife being such a bitch about him having to work late on a mass murder.

To me this confirms the pre buzz narrative of "OMG it's the best thing since season 1" was paid astro turfing. The worm has turned and everyone realizes this latina show runner is a bum.
 
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In the last week I've seen two or three "What's going on in this show nothing makes sense" articles from normie sites like Variety and Forbes. Complaints about the writing and dumb use of tropes such as the young deputies wife being such a bitch about him having to work late on a mass murder.

To me this confirms the pre buzz narrative of "OMG it's the best thing since season 1" was paid astro turfing. The worm has turned and everyone realizes this latina show runner is a bum.
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Going off the first episode I could see how press could say that, but from my understanding many press outlets saw the full season.

Right now Season 1 > 3 > 4 > 2. But order of 2 and 4 could change.

3 has the least interesting mystery of all the seasons but is told very well, with strong acting. The use of dementia is a good story hook, and does help elevate the mystery.
2, has awful dialog and is very messy plot wise with too many characters, but is a lot of good character stuff especially from Colin Farrell.
4. Had the best set up since season 1 and a killer location. But cast is a mix bag, and all the set up is just wasted on what they are doing with it. Every season got more interesting as it went on, this is the first one where the opposite is happening. Also many of the plots are getting samey, how many times do we have to see the marriage issues of the one cop or step daughter of Jodie Foster character being a cunt, would be one thing if it moved those stories along but it's not. Night Country is also 6 episodes long, yet in the 4 so far it feels like it has done less than any pretty much the first two episodes of any of the other seasons.
 
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In the last week I've seen two or three "What's going on in this show nothing makes sense" articles from normie sites like Variety and Forbes. Complaints about the writing and dumb use of tropes such as the young deputies wife being such a bitch about him having to work late on a mass murder.
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They've also seen episodes five and six and know the end of the story. And so far all reports are that it has one of the most abysmal and embarrassing endings in any detective or murder mystery story in history. And that there is a particularly cringe worthy piece of dialog that references the first season that was utter drivel and incomprehensibly bad that got some of the reviewers to shake with laughter. So the potential for the show to live on in memes and jokes is sky high at least so there is a small upside.
Cpl. Long Dong Silver dijo:
To me this confirms the pre buzz narrative of "OMG it's the best thing since season 1" was paid astro turfing.
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HBO is deep into the astroturfing game now. They had thousands of bots and spammers on social media defending the removal of HBO Max and flooding their new 'Max' service with trash Discovery reality TV shows. And an army of shills for the Last of Us show, especially the faggots flashback episode.
 
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They've also seen episodes five and six and know the end of the story. And so far all reports are that it has one of the most abysmal and embarrassing endings in any detective or murder mystery story in history. And that there is a particularly cringe worthy piece of dialog that references the first season that was utter drivel and incomprehensibly bad that got some of the reviewers to shake with laughter. So the potential for the show to live on in memes and jokes is sky high at least so there is a small upside.

HBO is deep into the astroturfing game now. They had thousands of bots and spammers on social media defending the removal of HBO Max and flooding their new 'Max' service with trash Discovery reality TV shows. And an army of shills for the Last of Us show, especially the faggots flashback episode.
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That ending being? Might as well say it.
 
The Bigger Scooper dijo:
That ending being? Might as well say it.
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They are under NDA not to reveal the ending for the sites they write for. But the vague talk has been that there is "no murderer". That the real killer was "global warming". And that the one dead female tried to warn everyone of the dangers of oil drilling or whatever the mining company was doing and they killed her so that they could keep drilling and making money. But then the toxins from drilling and mining got into the water supply and killed the town as revenge from "mother earth". The poisoned water is what's causing the hallucinations. The scientists all kill themselves out of guilt of poisoning the earth.

It's also why the detective work is going to slowly. Because the writers know that there is no killer. So they are in no rush to solve the case. Hence the characters stalling and wasting time on pointless nonsense for 55 minutes each episode. The characters have no urgency because the writers have no urgency to solve the case before episode six. This could have been an 80 minute Netflix movie (and probably was at some point).
 
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They are under NDA not to reveal the ending for the sites they write for. But the vague talk has been that there is "no murderer". That the real killer was "global warming". And that the one dead female tried to warn everyone of the dangers of oil drilling or whatever the mining company was doing and they killed her so that they could keep drilling and making money. But then the toxins from drilling and mining got into the water supply and killed the town as revenge from "mother earth". The poisoned water is what's causing the hallucinations. The scientists all kill themselves out of guilt of poisoning the earth.

It's also why the detective work is going to slowly. Because the writers know that there is no killer. So they are in no rush to solve the case. Hence the characters stalling and wasting time on pointless nonsense for 55 minutes each episode. The characters have no urgency because the writers have no urgency to solve the case before episode six. This could have been an 80 minute Netflix movie (and probably was at some point).
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If that is the ending; what a slap to the face, season 1 was also bit ambigous about the cosmic horror aspect, but that is all it was. Season 3 had a proper reason for some of the implied occult stuff because the poor bastard is going senile. Here if that is indeed 100% the ending, is a waste of everybodies time. They could've easily played with the concept of "What lies bellow the ice." but nah lets give you message that the greater audience doesn't give a fuck about. You what I would do? Play the concept of a vampire killer, a nut job who thinks is a vampire and only strikes when it is night. Literaly use the concept of polar night.
 
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If that is the ending; what a slap to the face, season 1 was also bit ambigous about the cosmic horror aspect.
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It was explained a few times in the show that the hallucinations were from Rust's prolonged drug use when he was undercover. He hallucinates a few things on the show like the spiral shape as birds, the light show in traffic, his dead daughter (though some argue that this is Martie Fontenot based on how she is dressed), and the giant black hole in the war fort tunnels. He's the only one who has them on the show. It's his mind reacting to the information he gets and the drugs altering his brain.
 
Powerlevel but a couple years ago I went to Alaska with my boyfriend. Not normal touron Alaska but a couple places that are pretty damn out of the way. We're watching this season together and like....

...there's nothing so wrong as a show that gets a lot of it right.

I can absolutely understand how society gets very odd in the Arctic.

I don't feel like the season quite threads the needle about the type of oddity or how it's expressed by the people.

Not to go all Plinkett here but I feel like you can put cinematic dialogue on a triangle:

1. Taciturn.

2. Profound.

3. Chatty.

I feel like the first season of TD, as well as certain other great series like The Sopranos, Twin Peaks, Succession, Yellowstone,
 
Episode 5 is out and it is not good.

This season is a middling-to-bad FX show that someone fooled HBO into funding.

There was a slowed down version of a Miley Cyrus song followed shortly by a slowed down version of that one hit wonder Save Tonight song by Eagle Eye Cherry.

This Forbes review puts it better than i ever could: https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...-poorly-paced-and-ridiculous/?sh=5c58f89e6f8f
 
trent dijo:
Episode 5 is out and it is not good.

This season is a middling-to-bad FX show that someone fooled HBO into funding.

There was a slowed down version of a Miley Cyrus song followed shortly by a slowed down version of that one hit wonder Save Tonight song by Eagle Eye Cherry.

This Forbes review puts it better than i ever could: https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikka...-poorly-paced-and-ridiculous/?sh=5c58f89e6f8f
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Damn Forbes tore that episode a new asshole. I don't think I'm going to watch anymore of this. I've checked out after episode three and I'd rather just read recaps.

This season will go down as wors than Season 2, and it's all the fault of stronk women and muh natives.
 
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