True Detective

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I am trying not to spoil myself, so I apologize if someone has already mentioned this, but does season 3 do anything with the king in yellow?

Yes and no. Season three takes place in the same universe as season one, and it has similar themes (and parallel scenes/events/elements), but it does its own thing.

It's very good, but the ending is controversial.
 
Season four is in production. Jodi Foster will be playing a detective who investigates the disappearance of six workers at an Arctic Research Station. HBO had a miniseries in 2020 called 'The Head' which was about a series of murders at an Arctic Research station.
 
Oh god who’s the pin cushion cop? She looks distractingly bad, and her acting is weak.

Jodie Foster is a great actress, and I believe she could carry a season just fine, but they should’ve paired her with the Australian from House and left it at that.

Also, are they confirming the supernatural is real in this universe, as opposed to just people believing in it? Or did I miss more confirmation in the previous seasons?
 
Also, are they confirming the supernatural is real in this universe, as opposed to just people believing in it? Or did I miss more confirmation in the previous seasons?
The "True Detective" IP has been taken away from creator and writer Nic Pizzolatto. It's just an HBO brand now. Don't think too hard about connections to previous seasons.
 
The "True Detective" IP has been taken away from creator and writer Nic Pizzolatto. It's just an HBO brand now. Don't think too hard about connections to previous seasons.
I don't think it would matter anyway, I think he just caught lightning in a bottle that first season anyway. I really enjoy the second season, but really just as a pulpy schlock show, not anywhere near the same way as S1. S3 was trash, even without the gay nigger lead (although it is absolutely the best work Stephen Dorff has ever done).

I think he really just had one good show in him, and the rest of his stuff is just workmanlike at best. I mean even Galveston sucked, although to be fair, I'm not sure how much the shitty chick director changed (so much that he took his name off of it). The Guilty and Magnificent Seven both sucked (again, to be fair, they're adaptations, not really his, but he didn't exactly improve on either of them).

Everything else he's started on - Perry Mason (which he dropped from, then they went ahead and made), some dumb FX drama called Redeemer which was aborted, and apparently some Amazon Prime wester that, let's face it, isn't going to go anywhere - has died on the vine. I know shit happens, but that's too many to be coincidences.

Taking TD away from him wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, it's just that it's going to be given to the standard retards who are just going to make more vulnerable minorities shows with nothing to do with TD other than the name and it might have some murders in it.
 
I don't think it would matter anyway, I think he just caught lightning in a bottle that first season anyway.
It's not that. He stole all of the nihilistic dialog that Rust had from another author then basically lied about it when caught. Thomas Ligotti wrote a series of essays that the True Detective author just stole word for word about the "pointlessness of life". Even the final quote in TD season one is stolen from an Alan Moore comic. And all those infamous Rust quotes were what got HBO to sign the show in the first place.
The "True Detective" IP has been taken away from creator and writer Nic Pizzolatto. It's just an HBO brand now. Don't think too hard about connections to previous seasons.
The fourth season of True Detective was another show that was written and filmed. When it was shown to people from HBO they realized it was dogshit. They re-shot a few scenes to tie them into True Detective season one and then renamed the show with the True Detective name prominent from and center. It didn't even start out as a True Detective show it's just a cheap marketing ploy.
 
The first True Detective was good because people expected the strange shit to lead to some Lovecraft esque madness hole, only for it to turn up to be some autist (if I remember correctly). I don't remember anything from the second season besides some Stronk Wahmen moments and feeling that nothing was achieved in the end.
 
looks like shit.

season one was good because it was inspired by hosanna church louisiana and the ritual murder and abuse accusations. this show could immediately return to form by fictionalizing any other of the more substantiated cases of ritual abuse and murder. show immediately lost its way being about anything less terrifying and paranoid.
 
I don't think it would matter anyway, I think he just caught lightning in a bottle that first season anyway. I really enjoy the second season, but really just as a pulpy schlock show, not anywhere near the same way as S1. S3 was trash, even without the gay nigger lead (although it is absolutely the best work Stephen Dorff has ever done).

I wouldn't call myself a Pizzolatto superfan, but we'll have to agree to disagree. Season one is obviously superior. Season two is really weak in comparison and has objective quality problems (the last episode especially is filled with total bullshit I don't accept), but I do think it's got greatness in it (great dialog, some great scenes, and a great cast), and it isn't nearly as bad as people say it is. And I think season 3 is very strong and almost as good as season 1... Mahershala Ali is a fantastic actor! (Agreed on Stephen Dorff.) I also really liked The Guilty (until I found out it was a pointless American remake, but whatever). No opinion on the other stuff I haven't seen, obviously.

Going forward, I'll give his stuff a chance. He hasn't lost me yet.
I think he really just had one good show in him, and the rest of his stuff is just workmanlike at best. I mean even Galveston sucked, although to be fair, I'm not sure how much the shitty chick director changed (so much that he took his name off of it). The Guilty and Magnificent Seven both sucked (again, to be fair, they're adaptations, not really his, but he didn't exactly improve on either of them).

Everything else he's started on - Perry Mason (which he dropped from, then they went ahead and made), some dumb FX drama called Redeemer which was aborted, and apparently some Amazon Prime wester that, let's face it, isn't going to go anywhere - has died on the vine. I know shit happens, but that's too many to be coincidences.

You could be right. But you're fooling yourself if you don't think that kind of stuff happens to good and even great work/artists routinely in Hollywood. Look at David Milch's later career. The guy is one of the best living (for the moment... ) television writers, and he's a had nothing but failed (though very good) shows since Deadwood... which was also killed prematurely. You don't exactly get success for being great at your job in the arts. You also have to resonate with the public (which is impossible to engineer or plan) , and you have to be liked in the POZ'd industry.

It would not be surprised if Pizzolatto had the deck stacked against him in the industry. If you'll remember, there was an early example of wokelash against the first season of True Detective for not having enough woman in it (or whatever the fuck they were whining about), and the stigma of that artificial outrage has followed him since. (I'm certain season two, structurally, was an answer to those stupid critics.) And let's not forget he's a conservative, and he's open about that. I am pretty sure he has, let's say, "cultural problems" with Hollywood based on things I've heard about him, and it wouldn't shock me to hear they have the same problems with him. It could explain his own dissatisfaction with so much of his work since.

But maybe he's a mediocre talent. I don't know. I don't think so, but maybe I'll change my mind later.
Taking TD away from him wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, it's just that it's going to be given to the standard retards who are just going to make more vulnerable minorities shows with nothing to do with TD other than the name and it might have some murders in it.
I guess we fundamentally disagree. I don't give a fuck about branding when it comes to narrative arts. I can count on one hand the times an "IP" has been taken away from the people who made it great and didn't become a dumpster fire afterwards. The name means nothing, and the people who work on it (and make it into the thing you love in the first place) mean everything.
looks like shit.

season one was good because it was inspired by hosanna church louisiana and the ritual murder and abuse accusations. this show could immediately return to form by fictionalizing any other of the more substantiated cases of ritual abuse and murder. show immediately lost its way being about anything less terrifying and paranoid.
A mistake was arguably made by going so dark in the first season. It's literally impossible to go darker than that, so the show had nowhere to go that would have been satisfying to the audience and premise without being a direct continuation of that story. And that's not ever what the show was going to be.

I'm guessing the first season was written over the course of a few years and that he had no plans for a followup. I mean, look at season 2...
 
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A mistake was arguably made by going so dark in the first season. It's literally impossible to go darker than that, so the show had nowhere to go that would have been satisfying to the audience and premise without being a direct continuation of that story. And that's not ever what the show was going to be.

I'm guessing the first season was written over the course of a few years and that he had no plans for a followup. I mean, look at season 2...
"nowhere to go" describes this show as it has existed since season 2. it's got no identity besides superficially mimicking season 1's style, which will always be empty because it's missing the substance.
pizzolatto was quoted saying season 2 would be about "Bad men, hard women and the secret occult history of the U.S. transportation system." clearly season 2 was rushed but abandoning that spicy idea was a mistake.
 
pizzolatto was quoted saying season 2 would be about "Bad men, hard women and the secret occult history of the U.S. transportation system." clearly season 2 was rushed but abandoning that spicy idea was a mistake.
I had totally forgotten about that quote! Damn, what the fuck happened?
 
"nowhere to go" describes this show as it has existed since season 2. it's got no identity besides superficially mimicking season 1's style, which will always be empty because it's missing the substance.
Season two is basically Chinatown. Except the main characters are even more retarded and illogical. Suicidal even. By the end of the show they are behaving so stupidly I just wished that they would die already because it was obvious that the show would end in their deaths. You just replace 'water rights' with 'train rights' and you even have the weird incest and female abuse angles still there.

The main character visiting his son at school and then fleeing into the woods is one of the dumbest moves I have ever seen a protagonist make. It's like the woman in Prometheus who refuses to run sideways level moronic. All he had to do was flee to a police station or FBI office and nothing would have happened to him. Because no one is going to murder him in front of a police station.
 
New season looks fucking awful. Jodie Foster is a good actress but (1) they paired her with some no name negro who cannot act and (2) it looks like they're ripping off Fargo with memberberry shit for season 1. I looked up the black actress and it literally is "put a chick in it and make her gay" because she's gay and has done 2 other projects that no one really saw.

I stopped at season 1. No regrets. Great fucking show. Glad it ended at season 1. Because the mixed reaction to seasons 2 and 3 is not inspiring me to watch them.
 
season one was good because it was inspired by hosanna church louisiana and the ritual murder and abuse accusations.

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Look at David Milch's later career. The guy is one of the best living (for the moment... ) television writers, and he's a had nothing but failed (though very good) shows since Deadwood... which was also killed prematurely.
He didn't get blacklisted or anything, he developed severe mental illness and became increasingly erratic and impossible to work with. He now also has Alzheimer's.
 
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