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Key the Metal Shitposter dijo:
This threads existence has brought out unbelievable levels of teeth gnashing, its crazy.
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That's why I don't like talking with prots online. Outside of talks with acquaintances, they always dive down into the same anticatholic rhetoric (Mary worshippers, idolators, "call no man Father" despite Christ himself calling Abraham Father, the whole sola scriptura debate (despite that not actually being in the Bible), etc). They never argue in good faith, then get upset when no one wants to be ecumenical with them.

And ecumenism is only good for the side not bending the knee, for one side would be giving up their Traditions, of whom authority comes from, and the very idea of how salvation works.
 
Señora Airi dijo:
That's why I don't like talking with prots online. Outside of talks with acquaintances, they always dive down into the same anticatholic rhetoric (Mary worshippers, idolators, "call no man Father" despite Christ himself calling Abraham Father, the whole sola scriptura debate (despite that not actually being in the Bible), etc). They never argue in good faith, then get upset when no one wants to be ecumenical with them.

And ecumenism is only good for the side not bending the knee, for one side would be giving up their Traditions, of whom authority comes from, and the very idea of how salvation works.
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Ive found a lot of charitable prots to be fair. I just think we should ignore all these people onbviously trying to derail and mock the thread because they dont like that Orthodoxy is growing.
 
Key the Metal Shitposter dijo:
Ive found a lot of charitable prots to be fair. I just think we should ignore all these people onbviously trying to derail and mock the thread because they dont like that Orthodoxy is growing.
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Eh that depends on the type of prot. High Church Prots (Anglicans, Lutherans, etc), you could have a charitable debate.
Low Church (Baptist, Pentecostals, etc) are too autistic to be reasoned with

(Not trying to start up arguments here, BTW. Just venting frustrations. Lord have mercy on this sinner).

EDIT: new Patristix vid:
 
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As an Orthodox catechumen on the cusp of baptism, I just want to say apophatic theology is incredibly disturbing and probably dangerous to the average person. The Church is doing a kindness in presenting a "not quite accurate" pastoral version of the faith rather than the more literally accurate patristic version.
 
Honest Fan Soni-chan dijo:
As an Orthodox catechumen on the cusp of baptism, I just want to say apophatic theology is incredibly disturbing and probably dangerous to the average person. The Church is doing a kindness in presenting a "not quite accurate" pastoral version of the faith rather than the more literally accurate patristic version.
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Are you sure that you understand what apophatic theology is? Because apophatic theology is found in the Cappadocian Fathers, so it is patristic.
 
Underperforming dijo:
Both the Pope and the Ecumenical Patriarch are of the opinion that unity is inevitable. Instead of tradcucking, we should be faithful to and hopeful that Christ's Church on Earth may be brought closer to that what we profess in the Creed (One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic). We should be praying for the intentions of our bishops and actually trying to build the Church.
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it's good to be hopefully but the theological differences would be too grand to bridge the divide. papal supremacy aside, there's stuff like the filioque and the aquinian-palamite differences. I think the american churches did a study in the 80s of reconcillation and the result was an ecumenic bridge would be hard to establish because of a 1000 years of dogmatic development.

Honest Fan Soni-chan dijo:
As an Orthodox catechumen on the cusp of baptism, I just want to say apophatic theology is incredibly disturbing and probably dangerous to the average person.
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i don't know about disturbing, it is a mess to sort out if you come from a logical perspective like catholicism, lutheranism and calvinism.
 
No. We do not see him as the Antichrist, nor do we view him infallible.
 
Key the Metal Shitposter dijo:
Ive found a lot of charitable prots to be fair. I just think we should ignore all these people onbviously trying to derail and mock the thread because they dont like that Orthodoxy is growing.
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Catholics think that they have arguments. The arguments are literally join our dying church where you will be insulted for being white and where every single one of our institutions has been taken over by communists.

oh no its pipkun dijo:
it's good to be hopefully but the theological differences would be too grand to bridge the divide. papal supremacy aside, there's stuff like the filioque and the aquinian-palamite differences. I think the american churches did a study in the 80s of reconcillation and the result was an ecumenic bridge would be hard to establish because of a 1000 years of dogmatic development.
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Him and the guy who's a former kgb agent can get bent. The last patriarch of Constantinople in my mind weighs over 600 years ago during the fall of Constantinople, the last legitimate patriarch of Russia was in the 1900s.

We will have a legitimate patriarch of consent noble when it's a Christian city again. And we are a legitimate patriarch of Russia when the Russian church. is not literally filled with a bunch of former KGB agents, even though there's no such things as former KGB agent.
 
Lone MacReady II dijo:
Do Orthodox recognize the pope as the anti-Christ?
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We view him as a condemned heretic, not the antichrist of the end times.

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Catholics think that they have arguments. The arguments are literally join our dying church where you will be insulted for being white and where every single one of our institutions has been taken over by communists
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Hey man im all about substantive critiques, I just dont feel like thats representative of what they believe at all. Thomism and vatican 1 are untenable positions that ought to be enough. Pray for their conversion to the truth.
 
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Reflection on the Great Feast of Pentecost​

“Blessed art thou, O Christ our God, who hast revealed the fishermen as most wise by sending down upon them the Holy Spirit.” The rude fishermen from Galilee were revealed by the God and Lord of all things to be the wisest men of their day, not with the wisdom of the world, but the wisdom of Christ crucified, the wisdom of the Cross. But God’s sending of the Spirit, his revelation of the apostles’ wisdom, was not arbitrary. They were ready for him to act, waiting in the upper room.

So often we wander through our lives like men asleep, thinking only as far as the next mundane task. But Christ calls us always to be awake, watching for the movement of his Spirit, ready for his call—ready to embrace his commission, ready to take up our Cross. At a minimum, let us retreat to the upper room of hearts during times of prayer once or twice daily, reminding ourselves in this small way to be vigilant for opportunities to follow Christ through everyday self-denial, humility, repentance, service, and love.

-Met. Tikhon
 

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Here's the livestream for the all night vigil for the Canonization of St. Olga of Alaska.

EDIT: Here's an updated link:
 
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