South Park + Its Political Sperging (?) Thread - Season 26 ongoing!

Joe Rogan seems to be doing great with his austin comedy club, but its a business he knows and he was practically an adopted son of the woman running the Comedy Store, and like most of his friend group are former life long employees of comedy clubs so it makes sense he's thriving
Is it thriving? I heard it got mixed reviews but it still gets business simply because Rogan's name is attached to it. I'd imagine that the only reason Casa Bonita would get any business is for the same reason: owned by the South Park guys so people will want to check it out.

Forgive the side rant but I do have to say that Gen Xers typically don't make good businessmen, or leaders in general. They're too reclusive to be good judges of character and they're unwilling to take responsibility as a boss because they don't want the pain in the ass. They also lack faith in themselves, when shit happens they just go 'well whatever man' and are willing to bail and retreat, kinda the opposite of what boomers are like. It's not necessarily a bad thing, personally I believe that this is why Gen X made some of the best music in the 90's because they're so dedicated to crafts that require working solo (mechanics, animators, programmers etc.). This is also why they make good stand-up comedians because they can come up with a lot of material on their own and they don't care who gets upset by it, which is pretty much required if you're going to do comedy on a mic. Running a restaurant/bar/club isn't something you can just throw money into and operate from behind a curtain.
 
Is it thriving? I heard it got mixed reviews but it still gets business simply because Rogan's name is attached to it. I'd imagine that the only reason Casa Bonita would get any business is for the same reason: owned by the South Park guys so people will want to check it out.

Forgive the side rant but I do have to say that Gen Xers typically don't make good businessmen, or leaders in general. They're too reclusive to be good judges of character and they're unwilling to take responsibility as a boss because they don't want the pain in the ass. They also lack faith in themselves, when shit happens they just go 'well whatever man' and are willing to bail and retreat, kinda the opposite of what boomers are like. It's not necessarily a bad thing, personally I believe that this is why Gen X made some of the best music in the 90's because they're so dedicated to crafts that require working solo (mechanics, animators, programmers etc.). This is also why they make good stand-up comedians because they can come up with a lot of material on their own and they don't care who gets upset by it, which is pretty much required if you're going to do comedy on a mic. Running a restaurant/bar/club isn't something you can just throw money into and operate from behind a curtain.
You know that whole irony hipster thing the "dude everything is like pointless, effort is gay and lame, caring about anything, is gay and lame, being passionate is gay and lame" that gets stereotypically associated with millennials?

Gen X pioneered that shit, unsurprisingly they do not make great leaders or businessmen.
 
I had no fucking clue about their debt, I thought they were filthy rich. This is true lolcow behavior. Wait, it's worse.

But it does explain so much about the state of the show.
 
Only two days to find out if they plan to double down.

If the rights to the show are being used as collateral could it be that they are intentionally trying to destroy the show out of spite so it becomes worthless when the rights get taken?
 
Paramount owns South Park outright and I'm pretty sure Parker and Stone know that Paramount has no real loyalty to creators given how the they rebooted Ren and Stumpy and Rugrats without their original creators, if they piss off corporate. Hell, Rugrats All Grown Up pretty much is a template for what CC might do if they double down this week: fire Matt and Trey, hire new writers, and age up the kids to their teens and relaunch the show and completely lock the two out of the franchise.
 
I can't see Paramount cancelling the show. It's too much of a money-maker for them. Unless Tyler admits the show inspired him and they have no choice I can't see them doing it.

Also, how is it they are in dept? How is it that the creators of one of the most successful cartoons of all time are in that position? I just don't see how anyone could lose that much money.
 
Also, how is it they are in dept? How is it that the creators of one of the most successful cartoons of all time are in that position? I just don't see how anyone could lose that much money.
You could just search the thread since it's been posted many many times but the tl'dr version is renovating and reopening Casa Bonita has been a 1 billion+ dollar financial disaster and Matt and Trey aren't helping matters by making getting a reservation more difficult than getting into one of the Assassins only nightclubs from John Wick.
 
I posted that scene on here earlier.

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Parodying Randy Newman not the same as South Park bitching and moaning over him winning more musical award than Matt and Trey did. Hell South Park just as salty over Phill Collin winning song awards over Matt and Trey.

They were mad about not winning little tin trophies? To this extent? ‘Hollywood, we hate you, we’re above you. Reward us!’

That makes me think back to the episode where the famous musical producers were actually hardcore bros, and had to come around and accept Randy, the outsider producer. I thought the joke was the absurdity of the scenario (and the exaggeration of how far a musical can go to get you laid), but since we know Randy is a Trey stand in now, I wonder if it was just covert bitching about not being in the in-crowd on Broadway.

At least that episode is genuinely hilarious.

I remember the DVD commentary concerning it. According to them (which is pure cope) they knew they were going to lose but they didn't expect nor want to lose to Phil Collins. They said there were other better songs and artists in that category. I actually watched the 72nd Academy Awards on television way back then and remember the musical performances for Best Music (Original Song) category. "Blame Canada" was memorable because Trey Parker and Matt Stone managed to get Robin Williams to perform the song for them with a number of background performers.

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The only issue was the competition was really shallow that year. You had "You'll Be in My Heart" by Phil Collins in Tarzan; "Music of my Heart" by Dianne Warren in Music of the Heart; "Save Me" by Aimee Mann in Magnolia; and lastly "When She Loved Me" by Randy Newman for Toy Story 2. I don't remember the rest of the performances other than "Save Me" which was just Aimee Mann standing there playing the guitar and Phil Collins playing the piano for "You'll Be in My Heart". Two Disney films, two live action films that are largely forgotten, and one animated film by Paramount; who do you think is going to win? It was going to be Disney and it wasn't going to be a Pixar film if Disney had any anything to do with it behind the scenes.

I genuinely think they were upset they lost and it's absolutely hilarious to think about it decades later after not watching South Park for 15 years. They pulled strings to put on a big number for a live award show and still lost to Phil Collins sitting down.

These guys didn't go to Hollywood to make South Park, they wanted to make other content and South Park was just a side project that morphed into a full time show for them. They clearly wanted to do musicals but never were successful at it beyond a few memorable South Park songs. I don't think a single song from the Book of Mormon has permeated pop culture. "Now You're a Man" from Orgazmo has more cultural influence than that broadway show.

This reminds me of the band Tool. They have a devoted fan base despite releasing one album in a 19 year span. Every band member rather do something else and tried to do other things but always get back together to tour to make money. They hate their fans, they hate their catalog, but have no choice to do it because they want the money. Same with Matt Stone and Trey Parker, they rather do something else but have no choice but to return to South Park because they need the money.
 
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They clearly wanted to do musicals but never were successful at it beyond a few memorable South Park songs. I don't think a single song from the Book of Mormon has permeated pop culture. "Now You're a Man" from Orgazmo has more cultural influence than that broadway show.
Imagine them realizing that the shitty joke montage song from their shitty joke puppet movie is probably going to be their one lasting musical contribution to pop culture.
 
Is Liane now officially less of a whore compared to Matt and Trey whoring out SP?
 
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OK, but why don't they just make a Book of Mormon movie? Most people don't want to shell out a fortune to go out and watch a fucking play.
That play prints money. It made its production budget back in its first year. It's over $850 million now in ticket sales. And will probably hit $1 billion. They don't need a movie because the play will go on forever. There are touring performances and still seven shows a week in NYC that are regularly sold out.
A gay-ass censored play, I might add. If they made a movie, people would probably check it out.
If you didn't see the original play there is a cam recording of the first week of shows that were done for family members of the cast. It's the only version of the full original production with the unedited jokes and lyrics that was ever available anywhere. Likely you will never be able to see the original play performed anymore. They only do the new one with the censored jokes and toned down lyrics. Another example of Stone and Parker being the real censors and not some media company.
 
OK, but why don't they just make a Book of Mormon movie? Most people don't want to shell out a fortune to go out and watch a fucking play. A gay-ass censored play, I might add. If they made a movie, people would probably check it out.
They'd have to make it through Paramount (the only people to give them complete creative freedom and not throw them out of Hollywood if it flopped) and make it Paramount+ exclusive to circumvent the MPAA, who have Trey and Matt on their permanent shit list for outing how the MPAA gives studio movies preferential treatment ratings-wise.

Also, traditionally, you don't do a movie version of a musical until it's fully left circulation even on the road show circuit. And even then, it's more practical to do a pro shot recording especially if you have a big name star as your lead, but even then you only do that if a play is in huge fucking demand and you are willing to eat loss of revenue from having the pro shot version out there.
 
family guy is probably going to outlive south park and thats cosmically funny me
Family guy got an unexpected popularity resurgence due to TikTok. The cutaway gags are absolutely perfect for short form content and the rapid fire gags and spastic editing appeals to zoomer and alpha rotbrain.

Seriously Family Guy clips have tens of millions of views on TikTok. Seth didn't intend for this to happen but it's hilarious that it did.
 
Actually it will be American Dad that outlives us all, as it's survived channel hops and multiple close calls cancellations ove the years and keeps getting better and better
 
Family guy got an unexpected popularity resurgence due to TikTok. The cutaway gags are absolutely perfect for short form content and the rapid fire gags and spastic editing appeals to zoomer and alpha rotbrain.

Seriously Family Guy clips have tens of millions of views on TikTok. Seth didn't intend for this to happen but it's hilarious that it did.
It's interesting how popular it became among zoomers due to this TikTok exposure. Many of them have never watched the show yet they love to spread Family Guy clips and meme images. I know a zoomer guy who has never seen a single episode yet he loves to share clips of it. It is a very episodic kind of show so short TikTok bits work well with it.

As for me, I remember when it first aired (I have the DVDs of those early seasons), when it was canceled, and when it renewed again. I started to lose interest around Season 9 years ago but I've been watching it again recently and it's rather refreshing to have a show that doesn't date itself with current year issues like the mire South Park has fallen into. I wouldn't say it's a top-tier comedy but it's at least consistent.
 
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