Pluribus - The new show from Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan

[Betonhaus]

Ok so yeah it was people. But since they are incapable of harming any life, including livestock and plant life, they determined they didn't have much choice as most of the race will starve to death in ten years.

Also the other individuals get together but they don't invite Carol.

 

[Brutality]

Remember episode 3 where it's alluded to that Carol had her eggs frozen. Now that It's revealed that they're tailoring the virus specifically towards the 12 individuals they're just going to try and find where Carol's eggs are frozen.

I do feel like the sense of urgency has been taken away from the show though now that they require consent to infect everyone else

 

[AngryAboutInternets]

As usual, this episode could have been around 10 minutes long. Did we really need like nine fucking minutes for that casino scene and the followups to bring Carol there? 18% of the runtime?

Spoiler: Highlights

• Everyone already knew they ate people except Carol and nobody told Carol because if they did Vince wouldn't have been able to spend a whole episode fucking around wasting time.
• No mention of prions despite them eating people. You know, the number one reason not to eat people.
• Hive mind is so retarded it's going to kill most of the human race by starvation because it refuses to synthesize protein at scale in labs (which it could easily do with modern technology given no profit incentive and years to perfect the process).
• Hive mind is so retarded that it thinks picking a fruit is killing/harming a plant (it's not and any biologist would know this, and the hive mind has access to presumably millions of them).
• Hive mind is so retarded that it can't scavenge dead animals for protein at scale (which it could almost certainly do if its ethics require no killing).
• Hive mind is so retarded that with over seven billion brains it can't come up with any decent solution to its food problem.
• Hive mind is LITERALLY so retarded that it bends its own ethics on vegetarianism, just not to permanently save human life, which it is composed entirely of.
• Suddenly the hive mind needs consent to convert people even though it explicitly said it was a biological imperative, because holding someone down and needling their bone marrow forcibly is apparently too much to bear. But, of course, running a mind control cult and contaminating food to convert people was fine.

The people writing this trash are brain-damaged. They can't even keep their shit straight in their own script. If you have a passing knowledge of biology and internet access you are officially smarter than the writers of this show. Holy shit what a trainwreck. I can't stop watching.

 

[Water Store Remark]

I do feel like the sense of urgency has been taken away from the show though now that they require consent to infect everyone else

I'm not sure if it has. They certainly didn't require consent to spray it over everyone from a plane. The hive mind said they cannot remove stem cells from inside anyone without consent, and the survivors are like "cool, I say you can't remove stem cells from within my body," but stem cells can be created from normal cells. The hive mind can't lie, but it certainly picked up rhetorical skills from every lawyer it subsumed. They have Carol's eggs most likely, Koumba's been willingly injecting his genetic information into his harem, and I imagine sweet Ravi has surreptitiously collected something from his mother. I might be reading into misdirection, but the hive mind's wording has been pretty precise until now.

 

[NSJAP]

I would ask plurbs if their extreme pacifism was from the beginning when the plurb network was only around 20 infected or it was emerged consensus as network grew

 

[Fig Kommandant]

this episode could have been around 10 minutes long

Way less to be honest, the discussion between Carol and Diabate is where we learn the highlights you've said and the only other piece of information we learn is that the guy from Paraguay wasn't aware of other survivors and didn't get along with his mother. That's 3 minutes at most. It's getting insulting how wasteful of my time shows like this are.

 

[J0hnyApplesneed]

I would ask plurbs if their extreme pacifism was from the beginning when the plurb network was only around 20 infected or it was emerged consensus as network grew

I think they would probably consider any death caused by the chaos while the "virus" was spreading as unintentional. They also say that there are accidents involving some of the humans, so they still allow humans to die as long as no direct violence is involved.

 

[Betonhaus]

I'm starting to think that the honeymoon period with Apple TV is over, as they're starting to put dumb crap in their series. I recall The Foundation they changed a major plot twist from the books (presumably because it's too obvious) to one that just doesn't make sense, and I'm worried about what stupid shit they will do on the next season of Foundation and For All Mankind

 

[Sneedmason]

I would ask plurbs if their extreme pacifism was from the beginning when the plurb network was only around 20 infected or it was emerged consensus as network grew

I would ask them about other networks and how they ended (aliens n sheeit).

The thing with the not harvesting stuff is retarded. How do they make paper? Only fallen trees? Is it all plastic based? Isn't that supposed to pollute using oil according to modern "science"? How does the logistics really work here? I have a feeling the show is either going with a nihilistic end (muh overpopulation, don't have kids and die for the climate goy) or with some "net zero" propaganda, own nothing and be happy. Either way, it's so much subversive shit and anti-European trash all over it, you can really tell Vince Gilligan worked on it.

 

[1x1x1x1]

Pretty disappointing they took an interesting potential sci-fi thriller plot and turned it into “Woman sad she wasn’t added to the group chat”

 

[stuuupid_idiot]

Two episodes in and I mostly just feel bad for the hivemind having to share the world with Carol.

 

[Goodbye Horses]

I think they would probably consider any death caused by the chaos while the "virus" was spreading as unintentional. They also say that there are accidents involving some of the humans, so they still allow humans to die as long as no direct violence is involved.

In the first episode it explicitly said it spread the virus knowing it was going to directly kill hundreds of millions, but it had to because its "biological imperative" to infect everyone overrode everything else. I'm sure @Water Store Remark is spot on and the stem-cell consent business is a half-truth or similar lie of omission to make Carol think she's no longer in imminent danger of infection and stop working against it so urgently.

 

[bango skank]

How many episodes is this first season supposed to be? I have a feeling very little is going to happen with the remaining time and the finale will end with the beaner showing up on her doorstep with a gun.

 

[Fig Kommandant]

How many episodes is this first season supposed to be?

Nine episodes, they've planned for four seasons already which means we get one season's worth of story delivered over four seasons.

 

[florida_cat_enjoyer]

If you haven’t seen the latest episode, watch the last ten minutes or so. Basically the point where it switches to Manousos. Then watch the entire episode. The amount of filler is ridiculous, you could just have it be a YouTube short at this point.

Nine episodes, they've planned for four seasons already which means we get one season's worth of story delivered over four seasons.

Carol and Manousos will probably meet in the last couple minutes of episode 9.

 

[Mayoush]

imagine if the indian survivor was a man and not the woman the world would have ended immidiatly no animal would be spared from rape and everywhere would be full of trash and poop

 

[Tajimi Grima]

The Good Place did it better.

 

[MadStan]

This show is giving me the "Raised by Wolves" feeling where there could be so many possibilities afoot that complexity is being passed off as brilliance when it is just over-diversion. But unlike Raised by Wolves, the writer of Pluribus says they know exactly where it is going to go, so I am going to have to give it a little longer before I decide to hate it for all the filler it has.

 

[frozen_runner]

I just watched the first two episodes. It's excellent stuff.

But I can't believe this wasn't in some way inspired or influenced by Jack Williamson's excellent science fiction novel The Humanoids. (And the underappreciated sequel, The Humanoid Touch.) The concept is so close that I'm stunned nobody else online seems to have made the connection. Sure, they're androids and not people infected by a space not-virus, but the themes are so similar.

Well, if you like the thematic exploration of individuality and what makes us human, and if you like the concept of a stiflingly benevolent antagonist, definitely check the book(s) out.

This show is giving me the "Raised by Wolves" feeling where there could be so many possibilities afoot that complexity is being passed off as brilliance when it is just over-diversion. But unlike Raised by Wolves, the writer of Pluribus says they know exactly where it is going to go, so I am going to have to give it a little longer before I decide to hate it for all the filler it has.

I liked Raised by Wolves a lot, but... yeah, the show really started meandering in the second season.

You should never, as a member of the audience, be consciously aware of how many sets a show has. And I found myself asking many, many times why we were moving back and forth between certain locations... until I realized they just had a handful of sets and that everything had to happen on them.

 

[Fabio Socialist]

ntil I realized they just had a handful of sets and that everything had to happen on them.

You just made me realize that's one of the things that's putting me off. On the surface it looks very polished and expensive, but the more I go back and look at Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, the cheaper and more limited Pluribus looks in comparison. It's like BB and BCS used resources efficiently without wasting them, but Pluribus was told to pinch every penny as hard as possible. And it's not just the limited sets and locations, because something about the cinematography is giving me the same feeling.