Oppenheimer (2023) - Dude helps to build a bomb, is shocked when said bomb is used

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CoolFool dijo:
Is it true that Oppenheimer says "I am become death, destroyer of worlds" while fucking that lady? :story:

My friend told me this but he always messes with me so idk if it's true. But if so then it sounds cringe
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Yes she pulls the book off a shelf and asks him to read it, he says the line while she rides him. He then says it again, or rather I think its dubbed from the same scene as hes supposed to be thinking it right after the Trinity test.

The actual nuke scene was kinda underwhelming, the start of the movie starts with some really cool closeup practical effects of a nuke shockwave in a liquid tank and dust being blown from the shockwave and stuff, and then for the actual nuke scene its just a big hollywood explosion without any of the cool liquid tank stuff. The actual shockwave was delayed and it goes completely silent until the shockwave hits, the best part of the movie, despite lacking those closeup shots.

I just saw it on Imax film, was pretty good, it might not have needed to be Imax but it looks good and actually feels like a real movie instead of more random goyslop. The buildup to the Trinity test was good and it actually had my heart racing, but after the test it slows down and becomes all just political hearings and stuff. I think it would have been better if the film ended with the Trinity test, and all the hearings built up to it, since Nolan loves his nonlinearity. Soundtrack was a bit overbearing in a few of the scenes and it made dialogue hard to hear, but its nowhere near as bad as interstellar, and its probably just the theater to blame. One of the scenes peaked the speakers for no reason, but what can you expect from shitty Cineplex theaters.

I don't get you retards having spergouts about Nolan, hes like one of the only few people making actual movies left. Seems like this thread is just hating on him because they can, or just to be contrarian.
 
Epoch dijo:
Yes she pulls the book off a shelf and asks him to read it, he says the line while she rides him. He then says it again, or rather I think its dubbed from the same scene as hes supposed to be thinking it right after the Trinity test.

The actual nuke scene was kinda underwhelming, the start of the movie starts with some really cool closeup practical effects of a nuke shockwave in a liquid tank and dust being blown from the shockwave and stuff, and then for the actual nuke scene its just a big hollywood explosion without any of the cool liquid tank stuff. The actual shockwave was delayed and it goes completely silent until the shockwave hits, the best part of the movie, despite lacking those closeup shots.

I just saw it on Imax film, was pretty good, it might not have needed to be Imax but it looks good and actually feels like a real movie instead of more random goyslop. The buildup to the Trinity test was good and it actually had my heart racing, but after the test it slows down and becomes all just political hearings and stuff. I think it would have been better if the film ended with the Trinity test, and all the hearings built up to it, since Nolan loves his nonlinearity. Soundtrack was a bit overbearing in a few of the scenes and it made dialogue hard to hear, but its nowhere near as bad as interstellar, and its probably just the theater to blame. One of the scenes peaked the speakers for no reason, but what can you expect from shitty Cineplex theaters.

I don't get you retards having spergouts about Nolan, hes like one of the only few people making actual movies left. Seems like this thread is just hating on him because they can, or just to be contrarian.
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Everyone I've talked to said the movie is just okay. Everyone said it's about an hour too long and that Oppenheimer's "I am become death" sex scene was really cringe and really cheapened the real reason Oppenheimer said that phrase. I've also been told that the audio mixing is kind of fucked in some parts and you can't hear what the characters are saying, which makes me not want to see it in theaters since you can't get subtitles there.

I was on the fence about seeing it in theaters but given all of the above, I'm just gonna wait to see it at home.
 
Epoch dijo:
If you can see it in Imax on film, its worth seeing in theater, otherwise just watch it at home. I know I said it didn't need the Imax, but it adds a lot seeing it on the giant screen with the giant film.
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Sadly I don't live near one, and don't feel like driving 2+ hours to see it. I'm just gonna wait, movies don't take too long to go to digital release these days.
 
Why does every Nolan movie have to be non-linear? It worked for Memento. It even worked for Inception. Using it in Dunkirk was dumb, but if a fucking biopic has fifteen timelines and you need a notepad to keep track, f that.

Also mix your sound right for the local cineplex.
 
Canned Ham dijo:
Why does every Nolan movie have to be non-linear? It worked for Memento. It even worked for Inception. Using it in Dunkirk was dumb, but if a fucking biopic has fifteen timelines and you need a notepad to keep track, f that.

Also mix your sound right for the local cineplex.
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The non-linearity acts as a normie filter, I've seen videos pop up on youtube explaining Interstellar for years, despite that movie being mostly linear. Probably just his style or whatever. Oppenheimer is non linear but framed like its him re-telling events, except for the black and white stuff which doesn't really fit into that analogy. He made sure to put a bunch of random loud noises to keep people awake though. It's non linear but its not hard to keep track of, and each separate time is easily identified, I think if it was more linear it would become a lot more boring because it would be hours of just talking instead of jumping from the interesting nuke stuff to the politics in between that.

I can phrase the non linearity better. Each separate time is linear, but it cuts between each of them.

I don't think Nolan should gimp his audio for shitty Cineplexes, his stuff sounds good in a properly mixed home theater, its just that Cineplex doesn't give a shit about actual quality now that they own pretty much every theater and have zero competition.
 
I always thought Kurchatov's story was more interesting. IIRC the guy was working on an A-bomb even before the manhattan project began but stalin being the retard son of a shoemaker told him to do something else, only then to force him to start a crash program to build a bomb and get it done fast "or else" which is why when the test happened Kurchatov rather than do a wimpy remark said he was relieved because now he wouldn't get shot or sent to siberia, the difference between living in the awful capitalist west where you can bitch on TV about your cushy job instead of the communist worker's paradise where you are forced to do something or else you get a bullet.

He ultimately died from radiation poisoning in an accident caused mostly by moscow commie bean counters being like "why we need all this safety shit?" just like what decades later caused chernobyl.

As for the japanese perspective of the bombings, well you could show the survivors of hiroshima and nagasaki beating our POWs to death as if those poor bastards were the ones behind the bomb, but I bet that's not what these dangerhairs want...
 
Epoch dijo:
Just watch Grave of the Fireflies after Oppenheimer if you want the Japanese perspective
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iirc Grave is more about firebombings rather than nukes, Barefoot Gen is the nuke one
besides, the real Japanese perspective for WWII was Black Sun: The Nanking Massacre and Men Behind The Sun
 
Timaeus Testified dijo:
The biggest let-down to me is that the movie focuses more in the second half on this hearing to appoint Strauss to the President's cabinet.
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I liked the second half because it was basically Jews jewing Jews.
Shamefur Dispray dijo:
Also Florence Pugh's tits are not a selling point at all. Not even a little bit.
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I agree. Not impressive at all.
CoolFool dijo:
To have him say that while plowing Pugh, and then try to pass it off as a serious moment... lmao.
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Yeah it was completely unnecessary and yeah. While she was fucking him, she just held a couple pages in front of his face at random and he read from that.
 
Epoch dijo:
Yes she pulls the book off a shelf and asks him to read it, he says the line while she rides him. He then says it again, or rather I think its dubbed from the same scene as hes supposed to be thinking it right after the Trinity test.
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Wow. That sounds incredibly stupid. He can't just be a guy that's reading the Bhagavad Gita in his study, it's got to activate Florence Pugh's neurons too.
 
I think perhaps I would be better off re-listening to The Last Podcast On The Left's episodes on the Manhattan Project instead of seeing this film.
 
>remember reading how basically everyone thought Oppenheimer was an overly dramatic faggot

I forget who said it, but there’s a quote from a few workers who basically said “This is not a novel idea, we feel bad that this will likely kill civilians, but get the fuck over yourself. You’re not the only person who feels bad about this.”

I think Enrico Fermi talked shit about him too because Fermi caught safety standards slipping when he visited a few times.
 
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I love Cillian Murphy but my hearing is shit so because of the bad sound mixing I probably won't be able to understand a thing. I've actually been to the Trinity test site at White Sands on the rare occasion that they open it to the public. Still, idk if it's worth three hours of "Wtf did they say???"
 
BobsSpergers dijo:
I love Cillian Murphy but my hearing is shit so because of the bad sound mixing I probably won't be able to understand a thing. I've actually been to the Trinity test site at White Sands on the rare occasion that they open it to the public. Still, idk if it's worth three hours of "Wtf did they say???"
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Might depend on the theater, but all of his lines were easy to understand and never drowned out, it was mainly some of Robert Downey Jr's lines at the start that got drowned out because of music that was way too loud and unfitting, the movie starts off kinda weirdly fast paced and then slows down after the sex scene.
 
The movie should've been like a half hour to an hour shorter. Nolan wants to cover so much of Oppenheimer's life that he ultimately is left with very little time to properly develop the events and characters. So many points and people are ultimately dropped or fade into the background. Now that's a lot like real life, where people and things don't get satisfying conclusions, people will shuffle out of your life sometimes with little rhyme or reason. But this is a movie. This isn't Memento, Nolan, use a clear beginning, middle and end with purpose.

Otherwise make it even longer and just make it a short series. Then you could slow down the pace and really focus on different parts of Oppenheimer's life.

It's not a terrible movie by any means though. Nolan has lots of interesting shots and the sound mixing is a definite highlight of the movie. It's got a great cast who I think all give interesting, charismatic performances especially since I think Nolan's script leaves a lot to be desired. However, Josh from Drake & Josh needs to start chain smoking or something. He's a decent actor but his voice still sounds like it's crackly like he's going through puberty.

It's above average like a 6/10 I guess.
 
HodgePodgeRogerDodger dijo:
>remember reading how basically everyone thought Oppenheimer was an overly dramatic faggot

I forget who said it, but there’s a quote from a few workers who basically said “This is not a novel idea, we feel bad that this will likely kill civilians, but get the fuck over yourself. You’re not the only person who feels bad about this.”

I think Enrico Fermi talked shit about him too because Fermi caught safety standards slipping when he visited a few times.
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Oppenheimer was a Level 30 Autismo Sperglord based on accounts of his life.

As for the "I am become death" quote, everyone misunderstands the context. It's not about becoming some mighty force of destruction, it's about a man who feels conflicted about fighting and killing those he cares about being told that in time everyone and everything will be dead and gone anyway, so go ahead and make peace with what you must do and put your trust in the belief that it was for the best.

Which is why putting it in a sex scene that takes place while the bombs are dropped is retarded. When Oppenheimer quoted it, he was indirectly saying that he has accepted what has happened and puts his faith in a higher judgement as to whether or not it was right.
 
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