Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.

[Milkshake Sniffer]

The Trojan War is literally a divine woman moment. I mean that literally. It’s two of the Greek gods getting pissed they lost a beauty contest with the goddess of beauty, who was wise enough to realize “oh he’s gonna think with his dick” when it came time to bribe the mortal judge.

I hadn't thought this through but there's quite the consequential effect. Aphrodite in essence provides Helen to Paris, Helen having no say in the matter and accordingly no culpability for the slaughter that follows. How will the strong black qween cope with her character have her agency taken from her?

If Nolan portrays Helen as choosing to elope with Paris they break with Homer (which I'm sure they are fine with) but at the cost of eliminating Aphrodite's role (another woman) and showing Helen as faithless and immoral, content for many others to have their lives ended in order for her to bang Paris.

If Nolan portrays Helen's elopement as effected by Aphrodite then Helen has no agency and is nothing more than a woman being provided (for sex) as a prize for Paris. Sexual objectification of a woman in its purest form.

Of course Nolan could just ignore the issue, hoping no one notices amidst the set piece action scenes going full, don't ask questions, just consume product.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

As someone who owns this boxset I have to say that seeing Nolan make this turn is painful.

 

[I was a Teenage “JA”-man]

That should have its own thread lmao. Skincolor is a caste issue that isn't touched upon in MSM so it's funny when it pops up. If the books is about European witches and magic that drives me up the wall. WitchTok and TumblrWitchesWiccan et al got blasted for daring to try Voodoo/Hudoo because that belongs to Black Girl Magic and the Whites can't have it! Yet they steal our lore, mythology and our aesthetic for their own poorly executed plans.

Ironically voodoo (at least the stuff most people are familiar with) was a mix of both white and black traditions, taro being european, voodoo dolls being medieval “popets”. also, stay away from witchtok it’s comprised of people who got all this from movies and who’ve never even lived far enough from an urban shithole to see the stars in the sky and think that buying shit from Michaels during Halloween makes them attuned to magic. Cobs had a better grasp on this. Rest easy.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

Ironically voodoo (at least the stuff most people are familiar with) was a mix of both white and black traditions, taro being european, voodoo dolls being medieval “popets”. also, stay away from witchtok it’s comprised of people who got all this from movies and who’ve never even lived far enough from an urban shithole to see the stars in the sky and think that buying shit from Michaels during Halloween makes them attuned to magic. Cobs had a better grasp on this. Rest easy.

So they are a bunch of Chris Chans.

 

[madethistocomment]

She's the actress that played Rue in the Hunger Games (I think she was raceswapped in the movie) and people were upset at Katniss' actress because she was lighter skinned than in the books lmao. It's all coming full circle.

Rue was always described as having dark brown skin, and District 11, which is where she's from, is implied to be located in the remnants of the American South. Rue's casting was pretty accurate, all things considered.

 

[LaughingCrying]

Rue was always described as having dark brown skin, and District 11, which is where she's from, is implied to be located in the remnants of the American South. Rue's casting was pretty accurate, all things considered.

Thanks. I never read the books and only heard about the casting issues when the movies were being made, while others made jokes about the first book plagiarizing Battle Royale.
I watched the movies years after the hype was over and it wasn't a bad story. I don't think I have it in me to read more YA though, even if I want to compare and contrast the books and movies.

 

[madethistocomment]

Thanks. I never read the books and only heard about the casting issues when the movies were being made, while others made jokes about the first book plagiarizing Battle Royale.
I watched the movies years after the hype was over and it wasn't a bad story. I don't think I have it in me to read more YA though, even if I want to compare and contrast the books and movies.

The books are actually really good, definitely better than the movies (which were still pretty good.) They were really one of the first YA novel series to absolutely explode in the 21st century and their quality and success is the dragon that the entire YA industry has been chasing after ever since. They're a genuinely good critique of mass media, reality tv, and celebrity culture without absolutely smashing you over the head with the themes, and Katniss' narration is really good. I enjoy how she's so blunt and cynical and suspicious- it helps color the reader's interpretations of the characters and plotlines and it makes their payoff really shine. If you ever get it in you to read more YA again, I'd genuinely recommend them.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

the last act rewards the journey

They say this like it's some extraordinary feature. If your movie doesn't have a payoff at the end, then your story is shit.

It's swords and sandals, only the swords are gay dicks and the sandals are...well they're still sandals only gayer.

Itd called "...and sandals" because of the actress that plays Athena, Sandalia.

No, that's Hermes. Zeus is bound by his nature to be jovial.

His nature is to be a rapist.

 

[I was a Teenage “JA”-man]

lol, really. Lupita showing her deep knowledge of the source material…

https://www.dailymail.com/tvshowbiz...-Nyongo-ridiculed-idiotic-question-Homer.html
https://archive.is/IfXNm
The romans were right about actors

Homer after hearing this:
Shame on him for writing a story that he wanted to write 3000 years ago.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

People joke about Ellen Page not fitting into a Greek myth because she’s pooner, but you people are dead wrong. The Greeks did have a pooner myth. Caeneus was a woman turned into a man after Poseidon raped her! He granted her one wish after he raped her and she wishes to be a man who was impervious!

Later on, she gets beaten into the Earth like a tentpole by Centaurs (very rapey in myth) or commits suicide by some myths (I think trannies have been scrubbing the suicide one because I fucking remember it as a young autist).

Here is her wish to Poseidon after being raped:

The great wrong,
which I have suffered from you justifies
the wonderful request that I must make;
I ask that I may never suffer such
an injury again. Grant I may be
no longer woman, and I'll ask no more.

Ellen Page missed a role made for her. The Centaurs even mock Caeneus for pooner rage and being raped!

 

[Gondolindrim]

lol, really. Lupita showing her deep knowledge of the source material…

https://www.dailymail.com/tvshowbiz...-Nyongo-ridiculed-idiotic-question-Homer.html
https://archive.is/IfXNm
The romans were right about actors

Lol yeah, that article looks very unbiased mate. Surely we can do better than this.

Lupita walked away from The Woman King because she could tell it was completely fictious propaganda that wanted to turn a tribe of black slavers into Wakanda. So she's cognizant of hollywood bullshit, but I'm sure the promise of a fat fucking paycheck for playing Helen of Troy managed to sway her to the dark side. Hopefully if this movie does get shit on critically, she'll blow the whistle on what the hell was going on behind the scenes.

 

[Oilspill Battery]

lol, really. Lupita showing her deep knowledge of the source material…

https://www.dailymail.com/tvshowbiz...-Nyongo-ridiculed-idiotic-question-Homer.html
https://archive.is/IfXNm
The romans were right about actors

You could get a whole PR them and ask them to come up with something that would make her look like the dumbest most ignorant nigger ever and they wouldn't even come close to something as monumentally idiotic as this.

 

[Frosted Snowflakes]

Geoff Keighley is even getting bodied by fans for shilling Nolan's Odyssey.


But I did find plenty of lulz.

 

[Toxic BRAAAAP Mask]

Nigger, it's a classical epic, it's the one time to have intellectual dialogue and not sound stupid.

 

[mlanguishi]

If he wanted to do some non-ancient method of telling the story.. Well that was done already by Joyce with Ulysses. He could've set it whenever really and added any dialog or races to it. Kurosawa did that with Ran too about King Leer. Nobody would've cared or complained much. But he wanted his cake and eat it too, modern style but set in the contemporary period of the original.

I mean obviously most adaptions are to some degree, there's not many Passion of the Christ style movies made that have everyone speaking the original language even. But changing it all up like this is just a weird choice and I suppose he's going 'ultra-subversion'.

 

[Otterly]

If he wanted to do some non-ancient method of telling the story.. Well that was done already by Joyce with Ulysses.

Yeah i agree. O brother where art thou was really unusual, but I liked it. I think if you’re going to physically set it in an ancient setting though you need to do it straight. It only works with modern dialogue if you’re doing some kind of screwball comedy. Modern setting plus archaic language would ironically be a more interesting way of doing it.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

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Nigger, it's a classical epic, it's the one time to have intellectual dialogue and not sound stupid.

Nolan made lots of NO BRAIN decisions for this movie.

 

[Otterly]

No, that's Hermes. Zeus is bound by his nature to be jovial.

I am very tired, so when I saw this I immediately went ..?… then I read it again and now I feel very very stupid. Bravo.

 

[Toxic BRAAAAP Mask]

There's also the fact half the cast is drooling DEI tards and the writers are untalented and/or lazy and an aging pussy-hatted farthuffer probably shouldn't be put in charge of anything on earth that costs millions of dollars.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

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Nigger, it's a classical epic, it's the one time to have intellectual dialogue and not sound stupid.

"LET'S GO!" actually sounds worse to me than the daddy lines in the trailer. "Daddy" might work if these actors are good enough, but "LET'S GO!" instead of Charge! or Follow me! does not inspire me to follow. Charge in a fight context is modern English, so that's no excuse. Even if you ignore the DEI in it, the Mediterranean looks like the English Channel and the armor looks Iron Age, not Bronze, never mind the plate armored giants. And if it's somehow boring, it'll probably be Odysseus stranded on Calypso's island for most of it.

Also, since we know this movie is made for IMAX, that means the audio is going to be scuffed for regular viewers because Nolan does not care about regular people.