Nolan's The Odyssey - Potentially could be epic or an epic flop.

[Milkshake Sniffer]

The Trojan War is literally a divine woman moment. I mean that literally. It’s two of the Greek gods getting pissed they lost a beauty contest with the goddess of beauty, who was wise enough to realize “oh he’s gonna think with his dick” when it came time to bribe the mortal judge.

I hadn't thought this through but there's quite the consequential effect. Aphrodite in essence provides Helen to Paris, Helen having no say in the matter and accordingly no culpability for the slaughter that follows. How will the strong black qween cope with her character have her agency taken from her?

If Nolan portrays Helen as choosing to elope with Paris they break with Homer (which I'm sure they are fine with) but at the cost of eliminating Aphrodite's role (another woman) and showing Helen as faithless and immoral, content for many others to have their lives ended in order for her to bang Paris.

If Nolan portrays Helen's elopement as effected by Aphrodite then Helen has no agency and is nothing more than a woman being provided (for sex) as a prize for Paris. Sexual objectification of a woman in its purest form.

Of course Nolan could just ignore the issue, hoping no one notices amidst the set piece action scenes going full, don't ask questions, just consume product.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

As someone who owns this boxset I have to say that seeing Nolan make this turn is painful.

 

[I was a Teenage “JA”-man]

That should have its own thread lmao. Skincolor is a caste issue that isn't touched upon in MSM so it's funny when it pops up. If the books is about European witches and magic that drives me up the wall. WitchTok and TumblrWitchesWiccan et al got blasted for daring to try Voodoo/Hudoo because that belongs to Black Girl Magic and the Whites can't have it! Yet they steal our lore, mythology and our aesthetic for their own poorly executed plans.

Ironically voodoo (at least the stuff most people are familiar with) was a mix of both white and black traditions, taro being european, voodoo dolls being medieval “popets”. also, stay away from witchtok it’s comprised of people who got all this from movies and who’ve never even lived far enough from an urban shithole to see the stars in the sky and think that buying shit from Michaels during Halloween makes them attuned to magic. Cobs had a better grasp on this. Rest easy.

 

[BubbaRobot887]

Ironically voodoo (at least the stuff most people are familiar with) was a mix of both white and black traditions, taro being european, voodoo dolls being medieval “popets”. also, stay away from witchtok it’s comprised of people who got all this from movies and who’ve never even lived far enough from an urban shithole to see the stars in the sky and think that buying shit from Michaels during Halloween makes them attuned to magic. Cobs had a better grasp on this. Rest easy.

So they are a bunch of Chris Chans.

 

[madethistocomment]

She's the actress that played Rue in the Hunger Games (I think she was raceswapped in the movie) and people were upset at Katniss' actress because she was lighter skinned than in the books lmao. It's all coming full circle.

Rue was always described as having dark brown skin, and District 11, which is where she's from, is implied to be located in the remnants of the American South. Rue's casting was pretty accurate, all things considered.

 

[LaughingCrying]

Rue was always described as having dark brown skin, and District 11, which is where she's from, is implied to be located in the remnants of the American South. Rue's casting was pretty accurate, all things considered.

Thanks. I never read the books and only heard about the casting issues when the movies were being made, while others made jokes about the first book plagiarizing Battle Royale.
I watched the movies years after the hype was over and it wasn't a bad story. I don't think I have it in me to read more YA though, even if I want to compare and contrast the books and movies.

 

[madethistocomment]

Thanks. I never read the books and only heard about the casting issues when the movies were being made, while others made jokes about the first book plagiarizing Battle Royale.
I watched the movies years after the hype was over and it wasn't a bad story. I don't think I have it in me to read more YA though, even if I want to compare and contrast the books and movies.

The books are actually really good, definitely better than the movies (which were still pretty good.) They were really one of the first YA novel series to absolutely explode in the 21st century and their quality and success is the dragon that the entire YA industry has been chasing after ever since. They're a genuinely good critique of mass media, reality tv, and celebrity culture without absolutely smashing you over the head with the themes, and Katniss' narration is really good. I enjoy how she's so blunt and cynical and suspicious- it helps color the reader's interpretations of the characters and plotlines and it makes their payoff really shine. If you ever get it in you to read more YA again, I'd genuinely reccomend them.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

the last act rewards the journey

They say this like it's some extraordinary feature. If your movie doesn't have a payoff at the end, then your story is shit.

It's swords and sandals, only the swords are gay dicks and the sandals are...well they're still sandals only gayer.

Itd called "...and sandals" because of the actress that plays Athena, Sandalia.

No, that's Hermes. Zeus is bound by his nature to be jovial.

His nature is to be a rapist.