Kiwis Against Pornography - Why porn, kink, polyamory, and prostitution are bad for you

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I'm asking for advice on what to do.
Cut contact with this person and stop referring to him as a she. He's so thoroughly retarded and he's trying to poison you too.

I know it's harsh but this was someone you met through a different closer friend and was just fun to hang with but now not anymore and they live somewhere else now so you can no longer hangout anyway.

I'd like to reiterate that if this guy is constantly talking about porn and fetishes to you and anyone else it's because he's actively trying to engage you in conversation with it to influence you, not just because he's a sperg with no filter.

Don't trust this nigga.
 
What would you do if you were me?

During an airline safety briefing, the flight attendants always say: Be sure to secure your own oxygen mask before helping anyone else with theirs. It's important to bring that same mindset into the rest of your life.

The situation you described appears hazardous to your mental wellbeing and quality of life. You've already voiced your disapproval with this person's actions to no avail. Any further attempts to correct behavior of another person are unlikely to make a difference and will only lead to resentment. Based on what you've said, it seems as if the best course of action is to phase this person out of your life. If you maintain a relationship in any way, this person will continue to drain your energy at best and potentially drag you into a dark place at worst. The good thing is that you are separated geographically -- that makes this sort of extrication much easier. You can just start to ghost those text messages, replying less and less until you just fade away. This person will move on to someone else when you stop giving the attention she is craving.

I've lamented many times in the past on this site (it comes up often among the sorts of people that are featured here) the sorry state of mental healthcare in the present day. It's sad and a little scary that it's possible for someone to gradually lose their mind, eventually reach the point where their brain is so damaged that they themselves can't recognize that they need help, and wind up simply self-destructing. It's one of my biggest personal fears, in fact. But when it comes down to it, the system is not set up for regular people to intervene. It's sad because this person clearly has some pretty severe psychological issues that need to be addressed, but any non-professional who might step in and attempt to assist will just wind up being dragged down and damaged in the process. There is, unfortunately, nothing that a regular person can do for someone like that.

I realize this is really easy for me to say not being part of this. It's hard to phase someone out of your life -- especially when that person had previously been close to you, and especially when that person remains close with other close friends of yours. It'll be a challenge to cut out this person while maintaining a relationship with your best friend. Just remember what drew you together in the first place. If the friendship is important to both of you, you'll find a way to maintain it while you cut ties with the other one.

What you should do for your best friend is a trickier proposition, but sometimes you just have to remind yourself that he is also an adult who can make his own decisions. You can't control what he does or how he reacts to situations., and openly criticizing someone else is unlikely to do much good. You simply pulling away may be enough to inspire your best friend to do the same if he shares your frustrations with this person's behavior.

Wishing you the best of luck. Stay strong. :feels:
 
Dear Kiwis, I hate to be vulnerable and ask for advice in a discussion thread, but it sounds like you all share this sentiment so I really need it:
Have you checked out the 'Losing people to transgenderism support thread'?

I imagine this is hurting you a lot </3 I bet a lot of us here have experienced similar situations (me included) with our friends and loved ones. Hope you can come to a choice that brings you peace even if you don't feel it right away

It's important to be empathetic, but you always should put your peace and boundaries first
 
I've lamented many times in the past on this site (it comes up often among the sorts of people that are featured here) the sorry state of mental healthcare in the present day. It's sad and a little scary that it's possible for someone to gradually lose their mind, eventually reach the point where their brain is so damaged that they themselves can't recognize that they need help, and wind up simply self-destructing.
I'll never understand how he got to this point. The saddest reality is he really did it all to himself. Decent parents, lots of friends. He has had bad inherited mental issues in the past and every time we tried to help him get better his only answer was "It's too much work, I think I'm okay with being like this". He began gambling, weed, this porn bullshit. Mental healthcare should learn to prevent those cases before having to then ardently fix them (and most of those people don't get better).

It's hard to phase someone out of your life -- especially when that person had previously been close to you, and especially when that person remains close with other close friends of yours. It'll be a challenge to cut out this person while maintaining a relationship with your best friend. Just remember what drew you together in the first place. If the friendship is important to both of you, you'll find a way to maintain it while you cut ties with the other one.
I'm gonna listen to you and paper machete as much as I don't want to because it feels like losing a brother to drugs. The person is still there and you remember how great things were just 2 years ago, and now he's completely salvageable at the moment.. Porn is the worst. If I didn't hate it enough already this is just more reason to. As for my other friend, he's complained to me about "her" several times and it's clear he's at his wits' end helping her. She got in trouble for spending her aunt's medicine money for a blue archive loli skin yesterday and I think he's slowly starting to crack.

I can't believe I haven't seen this earlier! This is exactly how I feel with him. Either way it feels nice the people here can at least unite in grief for something as unusual as this. Thank you guys.
 
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I'll never understand how he got to this point. The saddest reality is he really did it all to himself. Decent parents, lots of friends. He has had bad inherited mental issues in the past and every time we tried to help him get better his only answer was "It's too much work, I think I'm okay with being like this".
You just answered how he got like this. It's untreated mental illness. I'd question the "decent parents." This sort of behavior doesn't magically appear overnight, and I'd venture a guess that they were very permissive or neglectful. Gambling and weed are way more noticeable than porn.

Let me guess. He also likes to go on lengthy rants about how zoomers are discriminated against and doomed to be useless neets, so why not do drugs, porn, and gamble anything that's left? I've seen the type enough. This is a classic example of failure to launch. They're useless because they're trying to avoid life and refuse to start it. They exist in a living death. The only "cure" is to rip them from the cocoon of self-harm, cut them off from their vices, and force them to engage with the world.
 
The only "cure" is to rip them from the cocoon of self-harm, cut them off from their vices, and force them to engage with the world.
unfortunately with this specific example it seems that if they were subjected to flatout "tough love" cold turkey they'd immediately ack themselves. as you stated, existence in living death. you gotta give them a reason to engage with the world, show them that they genuinely do get something good out of it
they're trying to avoid life and refuse to start it
im not a psychologist or nothin but if the aforementioned "bad inherited mental issues" reach back to childhood or have been with them all their life that's probably why they have such a fucked up way of coping with em
 
im not a psychologist or nothin but if the aforementioned "bad inherited mental issues" reach back to childhood or have been with them all their life that's probably why they have such a fucked up way of coping with em
For the sake of clearing it up his father's side is violently schizophrenic and nearly every one of those family members were diagnosed with some kind of psychosis. Therefore custody of the kid was given to his uncle and aunt before he even knew his parents. It's sad his parents are not in the picture, but the surrogates I've met and are very kind to him. Just careless and tolerate too much, like audit guessed.
I'd venture a guess that they were very permissive or neglectful. Gambling and weed are way more noticeable than porn.
Have you ever heard of soft parenting? That's exactly the practice they adapted for him. And because weed is legal in his state and he was above 18 having started it, they didn't care.
 
unfortunately with this specific example it seems that if they were subjected to flatout "tough love" cold turkey they'd immediately ack themselves.
The curse of the 41% claims another victim.

im not a psychologist or nothin but if the aforementioned "bad inherited mental issues" reach back to childhood or have been with them all their life that's probably why they have such a fucked up way of coping with em
Severely mentally ill people should not be left to their own devices 'lest they end up like this. I'm not aware of a single tranny that doesn't have comorbid mental illnesses beyond autogynephilia. Parents like to gloss over and ignore mental illness in their children because it's easier than dealing with it. It's like those parents with obviously autistic kids who swear their little Timmy is just too high IQ to play with the other kids. Neglect is a serious form of child abuse that runs rampant in "nice" middle class suburbs, and the consequences of it are manifesting as deranged adults falling into vices. Helicopter parenting is the opposite of neglect but it leads to a similar outcome because the child never learns how to fend for itself, as opposed to neglect which leads to self-harm behaviors and desperate appeals for attention.

Have you ever heard of soft parenting? That's exactly the practice they adapted for him. And because weed is legal in his state and he was above 18 having started it, they didn't care.
Sorry to hear that. He never stood a chance with parents like that. This whole ordeal could have been curbed with a firm hand.
 
This whole ordeal could have been curbed with a firm hand.
Many such cases. Had a female friend who's also a porn addict of sorts but a different kind. She does very disgusting things for men on OF for maybe $3 a month. Is a self proclaimed "deez men aint sheeeeet!" man hater. Then you find out she has no father. Crazy how much influence that can have?
 
I really hate so much how defensive many regular pornography addicts get when you say its bad. Ive seen them even ecuating it to eating, saying "too much food is bad for you, same with porn" or stuff like that as if consuming it was necessary to live or something. I pity anyone that is addicted to pornography, but the people that defend it should be executed isis-style, no fucking exceptions
 
I really hate so much how defensive many regular pornography addicts get when you say its bad. Ive seen them even ecuating it to eating, saying "too much food is bad for you, same with porn" or stuff like that as if consuming it was necessary to live or something. I pity anyone that is addicted to pornography, but the people that defend it should be executed isis-style, no fucking exceptions
It feels similar to the defenses people give about their alcoholism or drug addictions. That itself is really telling imo
 
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I really hate so much how defensive many regular pornography addicts get when you say its bad. Ive seen them even ecuating it to eating, saying "too much food is bad for you, same with porn" or stuff like that as if consuming it was necessary to live or something. I pity anyone that is addicted to pornography, but the people that defend it should be executed isis-style, no fucking exceptions
I wonder if this defensiveness stems from the idea that it’s not harmful. We’ve been told for years now that masturbation is healthy, so perhaps they conflate masturbation with porn, since many of them can’t seem to do one without the other.
 
I wonder if this defensiveness stems from the idea that it’s not harmful. We’ve been told for years now that masturbation is healthy, so perhaps they conflate masturbation with porn, since many of them can’t seem to do one without the other.
Definitely has something to do with sex positivity culture nowadays. Kids are being told you don't need to be married to mingle, you can mingle with the same sex, and if you can't have underage sex it's fine to watch porn and masturbate. How did this idea even start?
 
Porn, kink and prostitution aren't actually bad for people, most of the people claiming they are, are just boring prudes who hate other people having fun. This thread's gay and the OP is a faggot.
 
OP is a faggot.
nah
kink and prostitution aren't actually bad for people
you've gotta be blind and deaf to unironically say this
i will admit that some "porn" (like soft photos) isn't that bad but when you get to the hardcore shit the industry that churns it out is horrible enough that it really isn't worth watching. stuff separated from the industry like amateur shit usually is a slippery slope to fucked up fetishes (example: sissy hypno - troon pipeline). separating gooner bullshit from normal hot stuff is one of those "i know it when i see it" type situations
 
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I've noticed this theme. It's always the most boring nerds who want the goth chicks, and it's always the most degenerate freaks who want virgin tradwives. Gooners/manosphere homos are all LARPers.
 
the kind of shit you don't even think of saving as,
the kind of shit you're surprised is allowed to stay,
and the comments say that it's not real, that it's just acting. ok.

at least we know what business to get into when they ban it from general population.

no shit they keep finding torture chambers and shit.

getting whipped until you pass out from pain.

we're just monetizing torture.
 
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I've noticed this theme. It's always the most boring nerds who want the goth chicks, and it's always the most degenerate freaks who want virgin tradwives. Gooners/manosphere homos are all LARPers.
I think it's more that they want a woman that will make things "easy" for them:

The trad larper wants control. But he's not a natural leader. So he needs someone incredibly naive and extremely submissive so he can believe he's that guy. (He's also an easily triggered narcissist.)

The boring nerd needs a weird chick he fantasizes would do all the things he's too afraid to do/ask of a woman, of her own volition, with no input needed from the terminally shy sperg. (He also perhaps feels defacto rejecte by more normie women so wants something that on surface seems safer.)

I mean, an alt aesthetic can work, but few women can pull it off and even then it's not really in style to do it in earnest anymore. No one you'd actually want to romp in the hay with calls herself a goth anymore (unless it's for money).
 
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