Kiwis Against Pornography - Why porn, kink, polyamory, and prostitution are bad for you

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Ver archivo adjunto 9167112I've noticed this theme. It's always the most boring nerds who want the goth chicks, and it's always the most degenerate freaks who want virgin tradwives. Gooners/manosphere homos are all LARPers.

In a less gay way, Cher, the queen, has said "Women seek in men what they failed to achieve themselves". A career, money, fame, reputation, suit-n-tie parties. But a woman is born to be a socialite; fuck and charm her way to the top. A man does the same, he's a cucked castrated loser who prefers to be pegged by his queen-wife. Of course, this is heckin based, validating and pro-feminism, until it isn't because it's a man bending over for a woman.

The trad larper wants control. But he's not a natural leader. So he needs someone incredibly naive and extremely submissive so he can believe he's that guy. (He's also an easily triggered narcissist.)

The boring nerd needs a weird chick he fantasizes would do all the things he's too afraid to do/ask of a woman, of her own volition, with no input needed from the terminally shy sperg. (He also perhaps feels defacto rejecte by more normie women so wants something that on surface seems safer.)

I mean, an alt aesthetic can work, but few women can pull it off and even then it's not really in style to do it in earnest anymore. No one you'd actually want to romp in the hay with calls herself a goth anymore (unless it's for money).

Flip it on its head: Why would a grown adult woman want to wear black lipstick, chokers, stockings and whatever is leftover from her emo phase in her teens? It was easy. Simpler. And now you got droves of men lusting for this simpler way of female worship. Ironically, goth chicks infamously never showed off and hated revealing skin. They didn't want attention and generally stuck to themselves and their kind. 'Goth' today is literally a stepping stone towards onlyfans. Show me any adult woman putting effort into looking 'goth' and there's an aspiring sex worker profile of hers out there somewhere. Same goes for troons; notice how they immediately buy big black heels and stockings, not a cute beige cardigan and pumps.

Men like evil women, because evil is a consequence of a personality. Real women however see this, take away only the 'evil' part of it and mimic the behavior of their teens that drove their besties to suicide: Being as vile as possible. They don't understand the appeal of tease, 'brat' behavior or any such notion. Cat girl? oh you want a girl with cat ears that licks her snatch and drinks milk? I can do that!

This whole idea of people being labeled and thus expected to act a sudden way is retarded. Women wear black once; they're a goth gf. They wear a beige shirt; sad mommy vibes. Dudes are guilty of playing into this shit too, but ultimately you just got two gooners; one society deems a proud sex worker and the other an angry loser incel that the former nonetheless wants more of to support her lifestyle.

It's all buzzwords and slop, and the fact it stems from and spreads from the US into europe is fucking cancerous.

 

[The_Cowcel]

I wonder if this defensiveness stems from the idea that it’s not harmful. We’ve been told for years now that masturbation is healthy, so perhaps they conflate masturbation with porn, since many of them can’t seem to do one without the other.

It's more so that many men have no real alternatives. I don't see how masturbating to pictures of modestly dressed women is less bad than pornography,

Definitely has something to do with sex positivity culture nowadays. Kids are being told you don't need to be married to mingle, you can mingle with the same sex, and if you can't have underage sex it's fine to watch porn and masturbate. How did this idea even start?

Probably due to underage sex and premarital sex not being criminalized leading to sexless men feeling like we're missing out on a part of life everyone else seems to have access to and which we have a biological drive to achieve.

Ver archivo adjunto 9167112
I've noticed this theme. It's always the most boring nerds who want the goth chicks, and it's always the most degenerate freaks who want virgin tradwives. Gooners/manosphere homos are all LARPers.

I can want a goth chick and a virgin tradwife, those desires aren't mutually exclusive, a man can want many different women.

 

[Silvana'sPickle]

It's more so that many men have no real alternatives. I don't see how masturbating to pictures of modestly dressed women is less bad than pornography

What do you mean by alternatives? Like, other forms of masturbation aids? Is it not possible to masturbate without pictures/video? I’m genuinely curious.

 

[The_Cowcel]

What do you mean by alternatives? Like, other forms of masturbation aids? Is it not possible to masturbate without pictures/video? I’m genuinely curious.

I've honestly never tried masturbating without some sort of visual aid, I could rely on memory of porn if needed but if porn were to be banned then what would the next generation of sexless men be left with?

 

[Silvana'sPickle]

I've honestly never tried masturbating without some sort of visual aid, I could rely on memory of porn if needed but if porn were to be banned then what would the next generation of sexless men be left with?

I presume they would have the same thing that men had before pornography. Masturbation has always existed, porn has not.

 

[Acoustic Virgin]

I've honestly never tried masturbating without some sort of visual aid, I could rely on memory of porn if needed but if porn were to be banned then what would the next generation of sexless men be left with?

Seriously? You never did it just from imagination? [Please don't answer that -- I don't want to know the detailed masturbatory habits of strangers. I'm just surprised to read that every one of someone's self love experiences has required external visual assistance.]

While I'm not convinced 100% by either side of this debate (I'm mostly in this thread out of curiosity), that assertion seems to support the thesis of the OP -- that porn is a slippery slope where each step results in decreased sensitivity and increased dependency.