Kiwis Against Pornography - Why porn, kink, polyamory, and prostitution are bad for you

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Porn is boring as shit, if you can't see that, there is no salvation for you
Well some of the shit with plot can be quite comedic...
and if you're 3x retarded and pay for porn, you're literally a waste of skin, and you can't be reasoned with.
100% true. If you don't pay for porn and just browse the hub not realizing you're the product they're milking (no pun intended) off of and damaging you're also triple retarded.
 
Except porn is not a drug. At the end of the day orgasm is a natural stimulus and it doesn't fry your pleasure receptors in the same way that hard drugs do. Porn addiction is comparable to a gambling, social media or even food addiction as behavioral compulsions.
Some people just have zero willpower and can get 'addicted' to anything that 'feels good'. Weed isn't physically addictive, but I personally know of like a dozen stoners who have fucked their lives over and live to smoke pot while collecting welfare or played up a disability for a bigger cheque. I know people who lost relationships and jobs because they'd blow off work and ignore their GF to shoot steroids and hit the gym. Hell, even world of Warcraft has a bigger bodycount than the farms if you count all the kids and babies neglected to death.
 
In the eyes of a truly committed gooner, pornography can be found just about anywhere. Just look in the comments on any social media ad where the model is barefoot. The foot fetish guys are particularly thirsty and eager to let everyone else know just how degenerate they are. These guys are getting all worked up over a mattress ad.
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I didn't bother censoring their names because they chose to be gross in public using their government names.
 
Porn turns me off like gambling in a way when you know more about the subject that makes it unappealing. Just reading how seedy the porno industry is and how psychological unstable some the actors are just makes unappealing for me.
 
In the eyes of a truly committed gooner, pornography can be found just about anywhere. Just look in the comments on any social media ad where the model is barefoot. The foot fetish guys are particularly thirsty and eager to let everyone else know just how degenerate they are. These guys are getting all worked up over a mattress ad.
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I didn't bother censoring their names because they chose to be gross in public using their government names.
I hate how "hostile" (for lack of a better word) the Internet has become because of how normalized foot fetishes are. At least back in the day you knew that if you posted a swimsuit pic from your trip to the beach, there might be one or two guys who would comment on your cleavage or something. Now it's like you have to blur or crop out any incidental footage (lol) in your photos/videos lest the freaks come out in droves. I can't help but feel like it's all performative too, like it's just a "meme" and everyone's only got a foot fetish now because it's trendy/funny.
Which, for what that's worth, is also disgusting and annoying. "I want her to step on me" "Mommy, sorry, mommy, sorry, mommy" "suck on ur toes," "he has his wife peg him," all this weird fetish shit, this is NOT normal!! It's not normal to want to be stepped on or have a woman use a sex toy up your butt, and I'm so tired of that disgusting shit being memeified into jokes. It's not funny! The joke is you want to do devious sex acts that have more in common with torture than sex, and it's gross!! God damn it!
 
that have more in common with torture than sex, and it's gross!!
Sex is a lot like torture. You stare at the clock and wait for it to be over
In the eyes of a truly committed gooner, pornography can be found just about anywhere. Just look in the comments on any social media ad where the model is barefoot. The foot fetish guys are particularly thirsty and eager to let everyone else know just how degenerate they are. These guys are getting all worked up over a mattress ad.
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I didn't bother censoring their names because they chose to be gross in public using their government names.
Does the second guy have his fucking wife in his profile picture
 
Some porn is funny for the dialogue. Any English dub hentai with Peter Ganim (as Pete Meat) in the credits gave us absolute gems. But then, watching porn with your pants on just to listen to some people half-heartedly (or completely seriously) reading lines in ways that make it uproariously hilarious is like ordering an ice cream sundae just to eat the whipped cream.
 
The foot fetish guys are particularly thirsty and eager to let everyone else know just how degenerate they are.
Footfags are so autistic that Wikifeet had to write a step-by-step guide on how not to be a fucking creep. Even then they botched it with stuff like
You notice someone has uniquely painted toes, stylish sandals, or a creative pedicure, compliment them! A sincere “Wow, your nail art looks amazing!” can truly make someone’s day.
Yeah, I compliment women's nail art every day and it's not weird.
 
Keeping this in the private section so that non-account viewers don't see this.

I feel incredibly guilty. While looking at these images on gelbooru and censoring them, I became very aroused. I've revealed in a prior message that I was first exposed to lolicon when I was 11, and this induced pedophilic desires in me. I feel guilty because I criticize and ridicule these people while consuming the same things they do. (Though, at least I acknowledge that the content is immoral and am trying to stop, unlike them. This doesn't make me much better, however.) The farther away that I try to get from lust the harder it becomes. I am engaged in spiritual warfare against demonic forces that try to influence me. However, I'd like to clarify and say that I'm not putting the blame solely on outside forces, as my evil doing is governed by my will. I'm going to take drastic measures and stop using the Internet completely.
EPI strikes again. He could be lying about feeling guilty, but I think it's entirely possible that it does eat him up inside. Obviously the biggest question is why he decided to post this info. Although oversharing can be a trait of various traumas, mental illnesses, etc. That's my belief anyway. Not that it's an excuse.
I'd like to believe in his desire and effort to break free :,]
 
The main problem with opposition to pornography and prostitution is that some men such as myself have no other sexual outlets, without porn you'd just get guys like me masturbating to images of fully clothed women which IMO seems like an even worse habit to develop the line between porn female and normal female is blurred in such a way that I would get aroused by seeing women in public.
 
the line between porn female and normal female is blurred in such a way that I would get aroused by seeing women in public.
You are supposed to find "non-porn" women attractive and be aroused by a woman even when she's not naked. You're saying "but if I give up porn I'll start feeling natural attraction".

Your sexual outlet is supposed to be... sex. For which you go out and find someone who likes you back. This is what should happen.
 
You are supposed to find "non-porn" women attractive and be aroused by a woman even when she's not naked. You're saying "but if I give up porn I'll start feeling natural attraction".
That sounds horribly disruptive beyond the point of even the most crippling porn addictions. It's not normal to have to make a conscious effort to ignore women just to avoid public erections, especially when the roads are plastered with near pornographic advertisements.
Your sexual outlet is supposed to be... sex. For which you go out and find someone who likes you back. This is what should happen.
Not all of us have access to unpaid sex though which is my entire point. Going out in my experience has only ever led to wasted money, eating an excess of calories and getting into needless car accidents. Nothing good has ever come of it, I'm still a kissless handholdless virgin despite being in good shape, actively trying to get a woman and having low standards.

What do you expect sexless men to do if porn and prostitution are banned? Either we become criminals or we become depraved perverts who masturbate to fully clothed women in nonsexual contexts, at least men who are porn users aren't constantly getting aroused and sexually tormented just by going outside and seeing a fully clothed middle age woman.
 
That sounds horribly disruptive beyond the point of even the most crippling porn addictions. It's not normal to have to make a conscious effort to ignore women just to avoid public erections, especially when the roads are plastered with near pornographic advertisements.
If you're troubled by spontaneous erections Just adjust your trousers a bit and keep doing whatever shopping or work or whatever you're doing until it goes down again. That's if this is a real problem for you and not just something you anticipate will be a problem. And yes, it's entirely normal to have to ignore women's attractiveness when you're out and about. All of us men on this thread have to do it routinely. It's called being civilised. Desensitising yourself to women through heavy porn use is not a solution.

Not all of us have access to unpaid sex though which is my entire point. Going out in my experience has only ever led to wasted money, eating an excess of calories and getting into needless car accidents. Nothing good has ever come of it, I'm still a kissless handholdless virgin despite being in good shape, actively trying to get a woman and having low standards.
You talk about sex like its a commodity.

What do you expect sexless men to do if porn and prostitution are banned? Either we become criminals or we become depraved perverts who masturbate to fully clothed women in nonsexual contexts, at least men who are porn users aren't constantly getting aroused and sexually tormented just by going outside and seeing a fully clothed middle age woman.
FFS, I'm out of this conversation.
 
If you're troubled by spontaneous erections Just adjust your trousers a bit and keep doing whatever shopping or work or whatever you're doing until it goes down again. That's if this is a real problem for you and not just something you anticipate will be a problem. And yes, it's entirely normal to have to ignore women's attractiveness when you're out and about. All of us men on this thread have to do it routinely. It's called being civilised. Desensitising yourself to women through heavy porn use is not a solution.
You yourself admit to having sex so you're desensitized to women from that, I don't see what's wrong about an incel using porn for the same purpose rather than masturbating to non-pornographic images of women.
You talk about sex like its a commodity.
Because that's how I see it, it's the main driving force I have for doing just about anything in my life. Working is to get money to get a woman for sex, working out is to attract a woman for sex, dating sites are to find a woman for sex, going out is to find women for sex, and for me even hobbies and friends are for finding women for sex. I'm incredibly desperate and I want to get unpaid sex with a female off of my bucket list.
FFS, I'm out of this conversation.
Why? I'm just pointing out what will happen to sexless men if porn and prostitution are banned, unless we go full sharia to the point where we see nothing of women to sexualize then there will always be material to be used as masturbatory aids by sexless men, especially for someone like me who is highly attracted to the face of a woman, even a lot of muslim countries have lax enough modesty laws that it's not enough to prevent sexualization.

To clarify I am pro-modesty and anti-sex but it's cruel to get rid of porn in a world filled with sluts who have no need to settle for the common man.
 
Because that's how I see it, it's the main driving force I have for doing just about anything in my life. Working is to get money to get a woman for sex, working out is to attract a woman for sex, dating sites are to find a woman for sex, going out is to find women for sex, and for me even hobbies and friends are for finding women for sex. I'm incredibly desperate and I want to get unpaid sex with a female off of my bucket list.
Are you Chris Chan?
 
Dear Kiwis, I hate to be vulnerable and ask for advice in a discussion thread, but it sounds like you all share this sentiment so I really need it:

I have a friend, he calls himself a woman. I met "her" through my now best friend. "She" was once extremely fun to hang out with, a little autistic, and I didn't agree with the trans stuff. But we had lots in common and "she" was generally very pleasant, also very talented in arts. Ever since some time ago, "she" completely spiraled.

Became obsessed with lesbians and anime girls and shows, vtubers, especially ones about highschoolers or little girls. Claims herself a proud "porn addict".

She constantly talks about porn, sex, and fetishes. 80% Of her humor is some variation of anime girls, porn or sex. Ditched her boyfriend and claims herself aromantic while posting porn on her social media - which we all see. Since we live in different states now we regularly text through messenger apps. She regularly shares very fetishistic porn there, ranging from feet to vore and "guro". She donates money to female streamers and dumps more of it on poorly disguised fetish gacha games.

She has a particular obsession with younger looking characters, though she denies it. About half of it is loli. She's also obsessed with a loli gore visual novel and has a roblox avatar of it. on a kids' website. she has friends who call themselves lolicons.

The problem is, she's fully aware. We called her out and tell her it's weird. She's fully accepting of the title and she's proud about being porn addicted. I condemn her behaviors, I feel like I cannot hang out with her anymore because this kind of hedonism is not good for the soul. I am also horrified she might get worse and get caught doing something illegal and I don't want to be part of it. But she's a huge part of my best friend's life. It's strange because he cannot let go of her, even though he hates everything she stands for and is also anti porn and catholic. She's given him horrible troubles in the past like threatening suicide but they've known eachother for almost 6 years, he must be attached.

I'm asking for advice on what to do. She is clearly troubled and very mentally ill and I grieve the person he once was, but it sounds like she's okay with herself. But I have to consider my best friend who must have some kind of sentimental attachment to her. He connects us together and I don't want to put too much strain or stress on him. What would you do if you were me? And if you could help her in any way, how would you do it?
 
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