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Why is the Rex being the same one from the original film even supposed to be some kind of draw? It's just a big fucking dangerous animal which terrorized them. It was a character in the same way the iceberg from Titanic was a character. Holy shit.
It's not a draw, it's a tiny easter egg that most people don't even notice. You didn't even know about it until I pointed it out.
I only brought it up as an example of a neat little thing they did for the fans in JW. They didn't draw attention to it, I doubt it was in any of the promotional material, but for the people who love this series enough to notice it was a nice edition to the final fight. Since Rexy was on the island in JW she also appears in JW 2. That's probably one of the few details from JW that carried over to JW 2 with it's horrible continuity. It doesn't make the films any better. It's just neat.
Also you gotta admire the artists who re-created this dinosaur from 20 years ago. They certainly put more effort into her cameo than Jeff Goldblum. Not that both cameos weren't equally cringey in this film.
Why is the Rex being the same one from the original film even supposed to be some kind of draw? It's just a big fucking dangerous animal which terrorized them. It was a character in the same way the iceberg from Titanic was a character. Holy shit.
This to me comes off as a cynical market gimmick given that it was declared from the seat with no effort or love required. It, like many other items (fun fact: the Spinosaurus was declared for no fucking reason to be an I. Rex prototype too) were declared as such in completely missable declarations. This isn't a draw, it's not an easter egg; it's from the seat laziness that is spewed out to draw buzz. It's low energy and low effort horseshit.
Actually that was probably because we've since discovered that the real Spinosaurus bore little resemblance to the one in the film. The real animal had much shorter back legs and probably spent most of its time on all fours.
How is it gonna create buzz if it was never publicized and difficult to notice unless you're a massive fan or looking for it? If I wanted to talk about pandering, I'd mention the Brachiosaurus that died just to remind us of the first film. This dino receives enormous attention for two whole scenes, only serves the purpose of nostalgia, and unlike Rexy you'd have to be blind to miss it.
I'm just gonna finish off by listing my likes and dislikes from JW 2, since I haven't done that yet, and since you seem to think I'm sucking this movie's cock for some reason.
- Chris Pratt
- Blue as a hatchling
- Blue in general
- The full size animatronic of Rexy's head
- The full size Blue animatronic
- The blood taking scene
- That scene at the end with the Mosasaur's shadow beneath the waves
- The scene where the gang tries to avoid the I. Raptor in the dark
- Most of the action scenes in the manor
- The guy who played Lockwood did amazing*
- The scene with the glass ball in the water**
- Almost every set design (minus basement)
- Little girl gave a decent performance
- Good casting in general
- The introduction of human cloning
- IMO a fun time
*Even though Lockwood's backstory is pure fanfic
**Even though it was stupid as hell of them to try hiding inside that ball in the first place
- Continuity errors - so many continuity errors
- New dinosaurs barely received any screentime (including I. Raptor)
- A plot device called Stygimoloch
- The aforementioned Brachiosaurus scene
- The surprisingly tolerable but still irritating Tumblr vet
- The surprisingly tolerable but still irritating hacker
- Rexy didn't actually do anything of plot importance other than give blood
- Blue's only purpose was to kill the I. Raptor
- Trash CGI
- Ian Malcom's cameo was wasted
- Seemly setting up Dr. Wu as the upfront villain of the next film
- Lack of gore in obviously gory scenes
- Chris Pratt somehow survives a tranq dart designed to put dinosaurs to sleep
- Mosasaur survived for three years swimming in its own waste inside an enclosed pen with no food because of ???
- They had to destroy Site B off-screen for this entire movie to happen
- Fanfic tier introduction of new characters related to John Hammond
- Movie wants me to believe 11 loose dinosaurs with no means to reproduce pose a threat to Earth's ecosystem
- Movie thinks I forgot about the Pterodactyls from JP 2 & 3 and JW
- Literally a worse JP 2 in general
- The Suchomimus that was so hungry it risked burning lava falls to try and eat our protagonists
- That time Rexy took a break from fleeing the volcano to murder a Carnosaur
- Dinosaurs that would rather die than go one second without eating human
- Chris Pratt wriggles away from lava
- The villains plans were poorly thought out
- When the I. Raptor fucking smirks at the camera
- When the I. Raptor acts like Freddie Kruger
- When the I. Raptor died after falling onto a Triceratops skull that was probably made of fragile plaster
- The entire concept of the I. Raptor
- The villain with a tooth fetish (comedy gold)
- Ian Malcom's final line
- Dinosaurs that cost billions of dollars and many human lives to clone and house selling for tens of millions
- For real the total amount made at the auction is less than what it cost to make the damn movie
- Bad Guy smothering Lockwood to death with a pillow
- Most of the opening sequence
I'm just gonna finish off by listing my likes and dislikes from JW 2, since I haven't done that yet, and since you seem to think I'm sucking this movie's cock for some reason.
My issue was more your seeming obsession with mascots honestly given it was your prevalent point for why a movie is entertaining or not throughout the whole slap fight we had.
As for the explanation they gave for the Spinosaurus... that's amazingly laughable to me IMO. It sounds more like intentional parasitism of the old lore to establish control over it given if they cared for realism and new discoveries in the slightest the newer dinos in World and World 2 would've looked like this anyway:
My issue was more your seeming obsession with mascots honestly given it was your prevalent point for why a movie is entertaining or not throughout the whole slap fight we had.
As for the explanation they gave for the Spinosaurus... that's amazingly laughable to me IMO. It sounds more like intentional parasitism of the old lore to establish control over it given if they cared for realism and new discoveries in the slightest the newer dinos in World and World 2 would've looked like this anyway:
They did the same thing with the raptors in JW when Dr. Wu explained their lack of feathers was due to the reptile genes they used. In the end the Spino's new origin is a pointless retcon I don't believe anybody really cares about, I just wanted to share some dino facts.
I've given some thought as to whether they should remake JP with updated dinos. While that would be pretty cool I don't think it's worth it because the cast of JP was just so perfect that it couldn't be replicated, so we'd just end up with an inferior movie on the whole.
Regarding the little clone girl, was it implied she was part Dinosaur? I swear to god i remember them zooming in on her eye and it looked like a dino one
This is actually brought up in the movie, from what I remember. While on the island, nerdboy nervously asks if there's any way the T Rex could still be alive, since he's hoping that it's died of old age by now. The feminist vet replies that they can't know, since growing up in an entirely new environment with a different atmosphere could easily affect its lifespan. So it clearly is the same T Rex from the original JP, and the writers just made up an excuse to handwave its 30 year lifespan.
This is actually brought up in the movie, from what I remember. While on the island, nerdboy nervously asks if there's any way the T Rex could still be alive, since he's hoping that it's died of old age by now. The feminist vet replies that they can't know, since growing up in an entirely new environment with a different atmosphere could easily affect its lifespan. So it clearly is the same T Rex from the original JP, and the writers just made up an excuse to handwave its 30 year lifespan.
Eh, I won't lie it just reeked of excuse making and telling the audience to fuck off and stop thinking to me. The war animal excuse also reeked of this too, and both failed to work for me for various reasons.
Honestly the warbeast plotline double-down is half the reason I think the crew behind both films just have contempt for the audience.
So I just came across this on Jurassic Park's YMMV page and it reads like this is just a joke/meme in the fandom, but I do feel like people actually take this seriously.
So I just came across this on Jurassic Park's YMMV page and it reads like this is just a joke/meme in the fandom, but I do feel like people actually take this seriously.
1.) She never finds a mate because she is literally the only T. rex on her island for the entire 28 year period that she lived there.
2.) Again, there were no males around anyway.
3. She's a fucking T. rex. The largest terrestrial carnivore on her planet. She kind of needs to be in shape in order to be what she is and already is naturally strong because of the way she is built as an animal.
4.) Fuck does this even mean?
5.) Subjective. Though admittedly I might be inclined to agree anyway.
Also,
Her name is canonically Roberta. Rexy is a fucking stupid nickname given to her by an oblivious fandom because apparently they think that a condescending nickname that Robert Muldoon gave out of irritation to the T. rex in the novel is somehow a respectful thing to call a fan favorite dinosaur that has saved the day multiple times. Rexy is the name of a weakass dinosaur that couldn't even make a single human kill before drowning in a pond underneath a waterfall shortly before being firebombed by the military in 1990.
The T. rex who ate a slimy lawyer, saved people from raptors, fought off a genetic hybrid abomination, saved more people again from a Carnotaurus and then ate a slimy businessman who wanted to ruthlessly exploit animals for money is named Roberta.
I love this franchise but I don't particularly care for the fan community. There are some good things about it that definitely make it stand out from other, far more awful communities (i.e. no dumb OTP pairings or porn, fairly kid-friendly, and I met some cool people within it before I just gradually faded out of it), but they are enormously autistic and have a hard time with anybody who challenges "headcanon". I have a pretty good story about that which is actually a big reason I started to step away from it.
Anyway I guess people care about what my opinion is on Fallen Kingdom. I have one but I've just been far too busy IRL right now to be able to put it into words. I'll get to it eventually, but the short of it is that I thought it was OK. I didn't like it as much as Jurassic World but I had fun watching it, though I do have concerns about where it will take the franchise in the next movie.
1.) She never finds a mate because she is literally the only T. rex on her island for the entire 28 year period that she lived there.
2.) Again, there were no males around anyway.
3. She's a fucking T. rex. The largest terrestrial carnivore on her planet. She kind of needs to be in shape in order to be what she is and already is naturally strong because of the way she is built as an animal.
4.) Fuck does this even mean?
5.) Subjective. Though admittedly I might be inclined to agree anyway.
Also,
Her name is canonically Roberta. Rexy is a fucking stupid nickname given to her by an oblivious fandom because apparently they think that a condescending nickname that Robert Muldoon gave out of irritation to the T. rex in the novel is somehow a respectful thing to call a fan favorite dinosaur that has saved the day multiple times. Rexy is the name of a weakass dinosaur that couldn't even make a single human kill before drowning in a pond underneath a waterfall shortly before being firebombed by the military in 1990.
The T. rex who ate a slimy lawyer, saved people from raptors, fought off a genetic hybrid abomination, saved more people again from a Carnotaurus and then ate a slimy businessman who wanted to ruthlessly exploit animals for money is named Roberta.
I love this franchise but I don't particularly care for the fan community. There are some good things about it that definitely make it stand out from other, far more awful communities (i.e. no dumb OTP pairings or porn, fairly kid-friendly, and I met some cool people within it before I just gradually faded out of it), but they are enormously autistic and have a hard time with anybody who challenges "headcanon". I have a pretty good story about that which is actually a big reason I started to step away from it.
Anyway I guess people care about what my opinion is on Fallen Kingdom. I have one but I've just been far too busy IRL right now to be able to put it into words. I'll get to it eventually, but the short of it is that I thought it was OK. I didn't like it as much as Jurassic World but I had fun watching it, though I do have concerns about where it will take the franchise in the next movie.
Saw it yesterday. It was pretty much what I expected, a silly movie with dinosaurs. I was relieved when Claire arrived on the island in sensible boots, rather than heels. So no running away from a T-rex in heels this time (seriously how did she not have a pair of flats tucked into a drawer somewhere?).
I liked JW better, if I was ranking them best to worst, this would be a solid 3rd place, just for the fact that they didn’t drag the kid to the island (see JP2 & 3), she only ended up in danger because the dinosaurs were brought to her.
And I agree with @Johnny Bravo the auction was hilariously under priced. Hell the bit with the guy trying to persuade the lesser bad guy that they’d make money was bafflingly bad. FFS, I’d bet you could get a 500 million just from some oil sheik wanting one for their private zoo.
I finally got my hands on a copy of Jurassic Park yesterday and am currently reading it. I just reached the part where Biosyn had a meeting to discuss what InGen was doing, and talking about how much of an impact it could make in terms of merchandising, and the guy leading it brought up pets, claiming that InGen could genetically created pygmy dinosaurs as pets for children.
Like holy shit, the implications alone are terrifying. We already see what happens with animals becoming pet fads because of the latest craze kids get into, and common sense should dictate dinosaurs to be off the fucking table and not just because they're all extinct. But they're not. Chalk that up as one more reason why dinosaurs needed to go extinct, because their dangerous nature as feral animals who will eat/trample you without a second thought won't stop the goddamn stupid parents from buying a baby T-Rex for little Timmy.
I'm a little surprised, if not disappointed, that that subject hasn't once been brought up in the films. There already was a petting zoo in Jurassic World, but has that thought never crossed anyone's minds, even at the risk of the debate devolving into stupidity?
I liked JW better, if I was ranking them best to worst, this would be a solid 3rd place, just for the fact that they didn’t drag the kid to the island (see JP2 & 3), she only ended up in danger because the dinosaurs were brought to her.
And I agree with @Johnny Bravo the auction was hilariously under priced. Hell the bit with the guy trying to persuade the lesser bad guy that they’d make money was bafflingly bad. FFS, I’d bet you could get a 500 million just from some oil sheik wanting one for their private zoo.
Eh, the kid in the second movie did stow away after being told upfront they aren't going last I checked. And in 3's case? He was just parasailing around the island with his step-dad; he wasn't supposed to actually land on the island... though I'll give that was still reckless on step-dad's part. I will agree that World, despite being dumb as bricks, is still fun. I will disagree and state that JW 2 is my least favorite of the movies though.
And yeah, the auction scene and everything about the plan was ridiculous, pricing included. I still find it baffling that Bad Guy didn't just send an expedition earlier, or anyone else really.
I'm a little surprised, if not disappointed, that that subject hasn't once been brought up in the films. There already was a petting zoo in Jurassic World, but has that thought never crossed anyone's minds, even at the risk of the debate devolving into stupidity?
Nope; because I doubt the director actually read the book and probably only looked at the sfx of the films. Even then, they'd double down on the military weapon idea instead and hypocritically claim the pet idea is dumb... while snarking and backtalking critics in the movie too. Shame too, since I'd have dug the pet gone rogue idea much more than making half-human/half-dino killing machines armed with guns.
Finished the book. Good read, I enjoyed it, didn't even mind how it took its time to get to the park. I find it a little fascinating how the Procompsognathus, Velociraptor, Tyrannosaurus, and Dilophosaur had the most presence in the story, yet the latter was given only one scene in the film (though what a memorable scene it was), and the compys didn't show up until the sequel. I'd almost dare to say the compys could've been the face of the franchise if it wasn't for the T-Rex, and not just because its skeleton is featured on the book and logos.
The ending brought up a really good point about the dinosaur behavior that the movies didn't really touch upon, that I can recall.
The Raptors lining up on the beach and the "oh shit" realizing from Grant that they were preparing to migrate is I think something that should be brought up in the franchise more. Of the dinosaurs showcased in the franchise, the Raptors indeed are the most birdlike alongside the pterosaurs, and so them having a migration pattern adds a lot of character to what these dinosaurs may have been like, as well as a lot more horrific implications, and it really does explain why a few of them stowed away on a boat. 'Course I have no fucking idea how these Raptors got off the island to terrorize Ismaloya--maybe it's still the compys, but the Raptors showed the most intelligence--but it just opens up a whole lot of questions to keep us on our toes. I dunno, I guess I just love this idea because I hadn't thought of it before.
There wasn't a copy of Lost World when I bought it, so perhaps that got explained (though how did Malcolm come back to life anyway lol), but yeah. I liked it. It was enjoyable to do a compare-contrast with the film, I don't get to do that too often.
I own the book; Malcolm was just retconned into being alive and was just super low on vitals, because Spielburg wanted him to be alive for his own movie. You'll also really like the book more than the movie Lost World most likely though; it's smarter and plays with prion disease.
I own the book; Malcolm was just retconned into being alive and was just super low on vitals, because Spielburg wanted him to be alive for his own movie. You'll also really like the book more than the movie Lost World most likely though; it's smarter and plays with prion disease.
What I love most about the book is Sarah Harding was basically Owen Grady twenty years before Owen Grady was conceptualized. Right down to chasing raptors on a motorcycle.
