Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom - Life Finds A Way

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Something I noticed at the start of the movie.
The news clip from the BBC had a ticker headline that said US President questions "the existence of dinosaurs". Was that suppose to be a subtle jab at Trump since he has been labeled as "anti-science"?

Also this was something I was pondering on after leaving the theater.
When talks of a fourth movie being developed, I recall an idea of dino-human hybrids floating around. Given the twist of the granddaughter, that could be possible plot in the next one.
 
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Rather glad I just listened to MauLer's review (seriously, just do this or find ways to not give these cunts money) when Universal fucked up by releasing it in the UK before the bigger US box office. I suspected it to be shit once I knew it was cribbing from the worst movie in the series based on the last couple of trailers, though I did not expect the degree of stupidity and piss poor movie construction.

Also good job showing contempt for your audience by forcing and doubling down on the retarded and panned war idea movie. It's as smart as lying about Goldblum being in the movie anylonger than a bit part.
 
It's a shame the movie was so bad because the opening was actually really solid. Suspenceful, mysterious and that "nope, you dead" moment looked straight out of the original JP. I honestly thought the movie would be about searching and capturing dinos that had escaped from the island. Like the giant fucking Mosasaur that just waltzed out!
But when they actually got to the island and it started to literally implode on itself, that's when I figured "Oh. It's one of those movies" and just leaned back and enjoyed the stupidity.
 
So my problem with the proposed sequel

So all the dinosaurs escape at the end...and now dinosaurs are in america! Dude its more like 20-35 dinosaurs... the army could easily kill that many dinosaurs. Also how are they going to breed when theres like one of each type? Even if they were asexual, it would still take like ten+ years for their progeny to grow to adulthood. Sure let out a couple dozen dinosaurs, they'll cause some shit for like a week or two.. but by then we'll have gunned down every last one of them.
 
Ok I got a serious question. Is there some producer linked to the Jurassic Park brand who is just straight up autistic about the idea of "hybrid dinosaur supersoldiers fighting in a castle"? and went out of his way to force this idiocy into the reboot series?

Because the OG Jurassic Park 4 script was literally
When Nick wakes up, he's in the tower of a medieval castle in the Alps. Seriously. That's the precise moment when the entire enterprise goes so over-the-top loony that you'll either go along with it for the entire insane ride or reject it roundly as a big bag of ludicrous. Nick is introduced to Adrien Joyce, the major domo henchman of Baron von Drax, CEO of the Grendel Corporation. Joyce isn't a moustache-twirling bad guy bent on torturing Nick into revealing where he hid the shaving cream can. Instead, he offers Nick a job, and in order to explain the job to him, he has to take him on a tour of the entire castle, which turns out to be a fairly sophisticated genetics lab where Grendel Corporation has been breeding some dinosaurs of their own design, cross-breeds that never existed in any era of nature with all sorts of custom modifications [...]

Nick is put in charge of training these five dinosaurs, X1 through X5, and the first thing he does is name them. "Any soldier worth his pay has a name to answer to, not a number," he says. So we are introduced to Achilles, Hector, Perseus, Orestes, and Spartacus, each of them a specially created deinonychus, which is sort of like a miniature T-rex. They have super-sensitive smell and hearing, incredible strength and speed and pack-hunting instincts, and they have modified forelegs, lengthened and topped with more dextrous fingers, as well as dog DNA for increased obedience and human DNA so they can solve problems well. All of this is topped off with a drug-regulating implant that can dose them with adrenaline or serotonin as the situation demands.
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(some of the concept art for this batshittery)
and this was from over 12 fucking years ago. Like...this concept was mocked by everyone in and out the movie business for over a decade and yet the films still refused to just fucking drop the idea and instead tried to "sneakily" push it in the movies with the fucking indoraptor shit, and the character of Maisie will probably be used as a springboard for the whole "half human half dinosaur" fetish this unknown sperg has.

Seriously this is straight up "Jon Peters and his Giant Spider fetish" shit
 
I'm wondering if the concept of the human-dino hybrid is to further enforce the idea that humanity can't seem to co-exist with one-another, they have to always resort to war and will do anything it takes to win that war even if it means genetically creating super-soldiers. But dinosaurs did the exact same thing using the natural food chain, so some autistic mental gymnastics were made to try and connect humans and dinosaurs together to show "We're not that different from each other!" while simultaneously being a cautionary tale of taking science too far--which was the main theme to begin with. Ian Malcolm was seeing this coming from tens of miles away with his chaos theory, but no one listened to him, and now humanity has to reap what they sow while the earth continues to turn, with or without humanity.

I wouldn't care about this too much given this is a science-fiction franchise and the fun of sci-fi is to go all out with technological and scientific anomalies that shouldn't exist in real life (but sometimes do), but unfortunately now real world ethics and politics have to get in the way of it by being front-and-center. Who's to say the dinosaur activists wouldn't start picketing for human-dino rights as well after they successfully make dinosaurs protected? (You know that's going to happen, Dinotopia this is not.)
 
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Whoever decided a Jurassic Park movie should feature virtually no actual dinosaurs and largely take place in a haunted house should just be fucking fired.
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Well on the upside we now have the closest thing to an actual resident evil movie what with the creepy mansion full of bioengineered monsters and hilariously bad dialogue
 
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It's probably the same retard who autistically wants to make Resident Evil out of Jurassic Park with this bioengineering shit. Probably the same fucking imbecile that thought that the war angle is smart.

Literally no one likes this "war animal" idea you shithead. It's dumb, and obsolete as fuck given the long running critique that we replaced animals with soulless machines. The only reason you make money from this trashfire is from the fucking IP and the stupids like me who'd watch it purely for IP purposes; you'd be broke otherwise.
 
Popping in because I was curious what @Owen Grady had to say about the movie now that it's come out. Seems they haven't gotten around to it yet.
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Even though I didn't hate the movie as much as a lot of other people did (my rating ended up being 7/10), this was my biggest complaint. I wanted the majority of the dinosaurs to do more than flee from the volcano and end up shivering in captivity. The T. rex particularly felt under-utilized, especially in comparison to the pivotal role she played at the end of Jurassic World. Plus, I would prefer the Jurassic saga end on a note where the dinosaurs get to roam their little island sanctuary more or less unmolested by pesky humans. Maybe they will get to do that at the end of the final sequel if the humans can catch them all.

Overall, Fallen Kingdom felt very transitory, like it existed mainly to bridge the gap between Jurassic World and whatever the last movie is going to be. Still, I have a glimmer of optimism about the saga's conclusion. I've read that Trevorrow and Connolly have let a new writer (Emily Carmichael) into their team for JP6/JW3, so I have my fingers crossed that her input might counter the other two writers' weaknesses (though there is also the risk of too many cooks ruining the broth).
 
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I've read that Trevorrow and Connolly have let a new writer (Emily Carmichael) into their team for JP6/JW3, so I have my fingers crossed that her input might counter the other two writers' weaknesses (though there is also the risk of too many cooks ruining the broth).
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Cause a literally who who's only other major credit is Pacific Rim 2 will be the perfect balance to Trevorrow and Connolly's hackiness.
 
Johnny Bravo dijo:
I liked it, it was dumb fun. There were some issues with plot and character motivation but imo you're a dumbass if you see this expecting a smart script.
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It did not need to
Lipitor dijo:
So my problem with the proposed sequel

So all the dinosaurs escape at the end...and now dinosaurs are in america! Dude its more like 20-35 dinosaurs... the army could easily kill that many dinosaurs. Also how are they going to breed when theres like one of each type? Even if they were asexual, it would still take like ten+ years for their progeny to grow to adulthood. Sure let out a couple dozen dinosaurs, they'll cause some shit for like a week or two.. but by then we'll have gunned down every last one of them.
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Time skip? A plot twist about Site B dinosaur also getting to the US? Everyone in these movies is a retard since JP 2?
 
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What I don't get, if they are so smart... why not put some explosives in the dino heads or some shit?
I mean, obviously realism has already died, if dead children can be cloned, so why not some head explosives?
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In the original movie and, I think, the book (I haven't read it since I was about 13) they have something similar to this. I may be misremembering it but it goes something like this: The dinosaurs are infected with a virus from birth, there is a sort of vaccine or inhibitor in their food or some shit, so as long as they are getting fed by their handlers they stay alive. If they escape, or the park infrastructure breaks down, they only live for about a week or two before they drop dead.

So yeah, everything after the first movie doesn't make sense. This is referred to as the 'lyceen' (or 'lyseen' or 'lisene' or something) contingency in the movie, if I remember correctly. Its been ages since I watched it, but I remember even as a kid being really confused about The Lost World and how the dinosaurs were still alive. I must have watched Jurassic Park like 40 times before I saw TLW, though, so not much had escaped me about it even though I was pretty damn young.

Edit: OK it wasn't a virus, it was a gene that meant they couldn't produce an enzyme. They got the enzyme from the handlers at the park, that's how it worked. Here's a video, in case anyone is interested (probably not).

 
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