Why get uppity over dinosaur accuracy? Well, for one thing, the 'freaks of nature' theme was present in a small way since the first book, but it only really got pushed hard in the Jurassic World phase of the franchise, 20+ years later. Why? Could it possibly be because of a boom in paleontological study, prompted in part by the first film, and the easy dissemination of new discoveries and revisions via the internet, contrasted with the stagnating unoriginality of Hollywood in general and the JW movies specifically, which needed to scrabble for a lame excuse why these in-universe products of bleeding-edge technology now look so dated, unchanged and unrefined? A little bit? Maybe?
I totally get that as a dinosaur geek and I'd like to see more accurate dinosaurs in media, I'm just willing to keep my suspension of disbelief for these movies (first film especially relied on it, but that's held up so well nowadays that even knowing everything's not real and have inaccuracies doesn't stop it from being awe-inspiring--period-pieces are fun) and then drop it later to fill in some gaps. I don't know if it was always there in the script or if it was added in later, but I honestly appreciate Claire mentioning in
Jurassic World that the dinosaurs aren't accurate because the audiences (think it was the test audiences) are so used to what dinosaurs looked like in fiction that they purposefully made them according to expectations, and also to keep children's attentions away from their phones. Yeah, it's an instance of the movie being annoyingly meta like every other Hollywood movie these days, but it gives off a haunting feeling that the dinosaurs being "fake" meant it made things easier for the scientists, and especially Claire, to treat them like a product and not actual living animals, thumbing their noses at nature. Hence Claire's character arc in the movie where she realized what she had gotten herself into and the consequences that followed.
It's most likely unintentional, though, and it's just my brain filling in gaps. I dunno, it's the only reason I can think of as to why it is the movies got to a point where a dinosaur like Blue has been weirdly stated to have empathy and why the dinosaurs were let free because there's some kind of underlying message about needing to treat nature with absolute respect and the kind of corruptions science can find itself in.
Fallen Kingdom was really silly in that regard because lolwut Raptor tears doesn't make sense, but it was still a fun romp in the theater.
... could be the poster quote for swallowing whatever Colin Treverrow or whoever feeds you. It just needed to be about raptors to be perfect. The spinosaurus was a super freak because of Ingen scientists. That's right. Nothing at all to do with script writers and concept artists being directed by executives rubbing themselves raw over the thought of the money they'd make from the newest toothy monster spectacle. It's all about the lazy unscrupulous money men in the films, not the lazy unscrupulous money men making them.
*pokes* Colin Treverrow didn't even work on
Jurassic Park III, so I dunno why he'd even be brought up here when Spinosaurus wasn't his decision. But regardless of that, I always liked Spinosaurus before the movie was even filming because it was like a giant crocodilian with a beautiful sail, that was my biggest draw to the movie as a nine-year-old outside of "Omg new Jurassic Park I can actually see in theaters!". It killing the T-Rex was shocking and an absolute upset (I wish I could've witnessed those paleontologists losing their shit in the theater), but it just further made Spinosaurus all that more terrifying in the movie (the Pterosaurs were still scarier) and yet apparently we're supposed to believe that the Spinosaurus was like some kind of failed experiment or something to that effect, or at least a failure in that it doesn't act like the other dinosaurs? I still think it's almost a missed opportunity there has been no Spinosaurus vs Velociraptors in anything, maybe it was planned but they knew they couldn't ever get away with it after the T-Rex scene.
So yeah, call me a Spinosaurus-stan if only because it was isolated to Sorna, and it's not like it actually fought and killed our beloved Roberta. I feel like there could've been more done with it. (EDIT: Just found out Spinosaurus is in
Camp Cretaceous which I need to get back into, and is the same one from
III. But I thought it was confirmed in supplementary material that the Spinosaurus on Sorna died/was terminated?)
The bit about raptors being sociopathic monsters in the books that comes to mind is from the sequel novel, The Lost World. That's explained by raptors being intelligent enough that they run on socialization as well as instinct, and the cloned raptors of Isla Sorna having no chance to experience those social cues from 70-80 million years hence. That's right, JP raptors grew up with no father figure. Even then, it's a hefty retcon from the first novel, where storm drains full of breeding raptors were coexisting and peacefully ordered. It didn't really have anything to do with monkeying with their genes.
Haven't finished reading Lost World so I didn't get to the Raptors, but it's still interesting that it had to be pointed out they're sociopaths, and them specifically. I was mainly referencing the daycare scene where they brutally eviscerate a baby that was just curious about its visitors, maybe 'cause it wasn't of their pack.
That leads, in a way, to the second thing. The flipside of the coin. The book had a throwaway line about "these aren't really real dinosaurs" but that was absolutely not the thing that the first film blasted in our faces. Almost the exact opposite.
It might be difficult for zoomer kiwis to understand what a sea change it caused in the perception of dinosaurs. The 'dinosaur renaissance' had been going since 1969 but it took twenty-four years and a major Hollywood blockbuster with revolutionary special effects for the public to get the memo that dinosaurs weren't cold blooded swamp wallowers. Even then, I've seen some post-JP media play up the angle of cold blooded dinos. Hell, even the image of a horizontal-stance Tyrannosaur was probably mind blowing to some.
The point was, these were really real dinosaurs.
Was gonna reply to this part but you had answered yourself further down.
The frog DNA was a plot point but only to give the controlled populations of animals a chance to produce viable offspring.
Sad thing is that the movie didn't bring up the bird and reptile DNA they had also used in the book. All that was mentioned was frog DNA for all of them, which was just a weird decision overall.
Everyone likes to latch onto JW Henry Wu's recycled and slightly paraphrased line about theme park monsters, but they seem to miss some of the accompanying things that book Wu had to say about the situation. Things like, the park had gone through generations of clone modifications because each iteration, including the animals in the park at the time, were deemed to move too fast for future park visitors to believe they were real. Meaning the first dinosaurs the Ingen labs produced were as near as dammit to the real thing, and had to be genetically hobbled to be slowed down for the expectations of the renaissance-ignorant public, rather than beefed up into slavering monsters. I can imagine Ingen geneticists gathered round their first egg, waiting for it to hatch, and their consternation when this feathery thing plopped out. How's that for another parallel between fictional and real excuses and expectations?
I forgot Wu said that in the book, it would explain his frustrations about having to keep up demands and why he became an egomaniac. I really do wish the movies pointed that out more, which is why as I mentioned above that I wonder if Claire's comment about that was in the original
World script or if that had to be added in later. Also is interesting that no one in the movies questions or protests it, either. I know Hammond hired a bunch of yes-men, but I don't think that was completely the case in
World?
We probably can agree that normies definitely ruin everything since they practically by demand made the dinosaurs be genetically designed to be outdated like how they were remembered in fiction.
It's very unusual, almost unique? That Jurassic Park was this big, barnstorming blockbuster film that actually advanced science, both in presenting it to the public and inspiring a generation of future paleontologists. It's been painful, even if it's somewhat inevitable, to watch it fall into sequel degeneration, to see these dynamic 'new' dinosaurs turn into stock movie monsters lot #735. Would it be too much of an expectation to see the fictional geneticists keep refining their science, in step with RL paleos? To say "hey, we found another scrap of Velociraptor DNA to replace that frog junk, we're a step closer to the real thing! Oh wow, no bunny hands!" rather than taking the opposite, horribly cynical tack to justify devolving the whole thing into something that could have Michael Bays or Roland Emmerichs name on it. Not to turn it into some dry, sober documentary - the original film wasn't that - but also not to turn it into something so butt fuckingly stupid.
We don't want movies to become
too meta, though (we already get enough of that nowadays), unless Jurassic Park had that capability of doing so but no one else had the same grasp on nuance and science/engineering like Michael Crichton had. He wasn't involved in the
Lost World's script simply because he was too busy writing the book, right? Or did he have some disagreements with Spielberg and left him to his own devices?
The franchise has to be in this muck probably because the filmmakers
were afraid of being as ambitious as the first film, either they knew they could never be as good, or they feared audience/critic reception.
III wanted to try to have its cake and eat it too, but it was definitely holding itself back when it should've been exploring the world more. Maybe instead of focusing completely on InGen, we should be looking more into Biosyn and what plans they had in mind. What about Costa Rica where dinosaurs
had migrated to and was terrorizing the locals, did they ever clear those dinosaurs out? Are we ever going to get pygmy dinosaurs to be sold as pets to little Timmy and then see the rise of child mortality, or what happens when these dinosaurs get sent to the pound or released out into the wild when the kids tired of them/got hurt? Or even if they became successful popular pets, would the demand be too great and cause further irregularities in the clones that'd make them more dangerous or more like abominations than before? Are we going to see the end result of a dinosaur-human hybrid experiment because science has just gone way too far because humans get too fucking high off of power? Will they ever develop accurate dinosaurs in their cloning journeys, and will we ever see the ice age mammals like the mammoth be walking together with these dinosaurs, but things get fucked up because, well, science went too far?
Supplementary material seems to handle it better than the film-industry at this point, which is sad. Maybe it should've all just been left to fan speculation, even if it would've meant the fan community was kept small.