Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker - Won an Oscar

[The Real SVP]

"A dangerous movie in the wrong hands." What the fuck is wrong with these people?

It means we won. Doesn't matter who "we" are, or that there is no "we". It's just another example of people opposing the fredom of expression running out of arguments.

 

[Leonard Helplessness]

Found on imgur as a short, looping MP4, had to screenshot it since that shit won't embed well.

 

[Commander X]

Me and the guys getting some snacks before seeing the Jokester movie.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

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Waaait. Is Shmorky back?

 

[Fagnacious D]

Doctor Sleep. I got that trailer as well, Ewan McGregor's in it playing Danny, so it's a sequel. I heard about it some time ago but completely forgot it existed until the trailer. It looked like your typical I REMEMBER WHAT THAT IS type of sequel/prequel/remake, so I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it's trash. Also it was amazing to hear the original music from The Shining being used over these scenes full of cheap modern horror movie scares and action scenes.

I'm skimming the article and I'm wondering - why does the author think there was any need to develope Sophie?

Spoiler: sperging

The movie is from Arthur's POV and there are many MANY points in the movie where you can see that he has a very shallow view of success. If he gets a gf, he'll be happy (but it doesn't really matter what she's like as a person as long as she accepts him), if he can do stand up and make people laugh, he'll be happy (but we never see the audience after his fantasy nor hear his imagined jokes because he doesn't care, as long as he achieves his purpose), if he can go to deNiro's show, he'll be cheered by the public and embraced by the host as a friend and he'll be happy (but it doesn't matter what happens after, if he can make something of himself after that because he just wants that one high). Arthur is the main character, not Sophie, not his mother, not de Niro, not the Waynes'. It's a deep character piece, very unreliable one at that, and there is no need to develope the rest of the characters more than is needed because we're already seeing that Arthur is not reliable himself, so we can also guess there's more to the story than we see. So if the author is complaining that Sophie was nothing more than a prop, then he is right, but he also doesn't get that she was also that for Arthur.

From what you're describing the movie sounds an awful lot like the King of Comedy

 

[BrunoMattei]

Just came back from it. Holy. Fucking. Shit. 10/10. 100%. Genuinely amazing.

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I think the Joker Gang towards the end may have been inspired by the Jokerz from Batman Beyond.

Let this dominate the box office. Let the night roar. Fuck the critics. Bring on more R rated comic book auteur films!

Also, at the theater I went to I didn't see any signs but I did see cops hanging around and making their presence known.

 

[UnKillFill]

So I had so much fun last night that I decided to do it again... Drank a shit ton, and am now getting ready to walk to the theater to see it again. Oh yeah I guess I promised I would give more opinions today...

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I literally laughed out loud when Arthur spared the midget. My favorite part of the whole movie I think, but I will say more later.

 

[AnOminous]

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This but just replace "money" with "people shooting up the Joker movie."

 

[Bogliacci]

It was great, made me very uncomfortable. From the moment that Arthur first "rose up", for lack of a better term, I was tense and things just kept getting spicier. Seeing how well they orchestrated his mental illness affecting judgement and all that jazz, I have to applaud what they've done here. I saw somewhere that this movie was only released masquerading a capeshit theme to allow someone in hollywood to release something real, to which I have to agree.

I really think this film is going to impact people who have experienced such kinds of mental illness on a personal level the most.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

After having seen it, I can say that the movie got a little bit too melodramatic in parts, but otherwise it's a great film.

I have no idea where the "incels are going to watch this and start shooting people" thing came from.

 

[UnKillFill]

I forgot to mention the reason I ended up deciding to watch this again...

I looked at the seats that were still open (for this particular theater, you get to pre choose your seats) and seat H-8 was still open, right in the middle where I usually choose to sit. I found that fucking hilarious to watch the "hateful" joker movie in literal seat H8.

 

[Bogliacci]

After having seen it, I can say that the movie got a little bit too melodramatic in parts, but otherwise it's a great film.

I have no idea where the "incels are going to watch this and start shooting people" thing came from.

If we trace it back, all that shit came about because the gangweed meme with heath ledger joker was popular around the time that someone filmed phoenix running for a scene in this movie. So the whole running joker meme was the start in association with this film, and then memes just... evolve. Media sees this stuff, sees a story, pow! Incels going to shoot up Joker movie, Joker is incel porn! Dangerous movie inspires Incel Intifada against chad and stacy!

 

[The Real SVP]

[...] seat H-8 was still open[...]

You made me check: I could get seat 14-8, tomorrow.

[...] pow! Incels going to shoot up Joker movie, Joker is incel porn! [...]

There is also the story in which some dumb law enforcement official lied about an irrelevant mass murderer, who shot up a cinema a few states over from said official, calling himself "The Joker". There was absolutely no truth to that story (And everybody actually involved in the investigations tried to refute it as best as they could.) But, for no reason at all, the press ran with that lie and chose to ignore the truth of the matter.

 

[frozenrunner]

and the other was David Defalco who shot a scene for scene Last House on the Left ripoff named Chaos which was also a massive POS.

That's the one Ebert gave no stars, right?

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"A dangerous movie in the wrong hands." What the fuck is wrong with these people?

They're literally exactly the same as 80s fundies screaming about Satanic messages in rock music

Before I get into my take on the movie (with spoilers), if Joaquin Phoenix is not even nominated for a Best Actor Oscar that is straight up bullshit.

Dude, he wasn't nominated for You Were Never Really Here, either. Don't hold your breath.

 

[Commander X]

 

[AnOminous]

I have no idea where the "incels are going to watch this and start shooting people" thing came from.

It's more or less from the fake news and in this case fake critics who base their review of a movie on whether they think evil alt-right incels will like it.

 

[Muttnik]

What I hate most about the whole incel thing is that the MSM is completely heartless about it and doesn't offer any solutions to the so-called "incel crisis". Incels are entitled losers and are great to make fun of online and they deserve it for acting like autistic creeps. But it's different when it comes to presenting the issue to the general public on what SHOULD have been a non-biased source of public information. There's a difference between Elliot Rodger and someone lonely with mental illness that could more or less use some someone to talk to.
The MSM wouldn't be caught dead suggesting that maybe people should reach out to lonely people more often and offer some compassion, to not encourage entitlement but to offer productive, fulfilling alternatives to live one's life without bitterness.

 

[JohnDoe]

This is film of the year material. I'm not kidding.

Todd Phillips manages to marry the very intimate, grimy feel of the 1970's auteur film scene with the budget and advancements of modern production. The camerawork, set design, sound work, all of it are combined to make a film feel recklessly sexual and visceral. It really gets under your skin and makes it crawl as you watch the city itself become a character that gains life and temper - with a capricious and violent will that seems fixed upon mayhem.

Phoenix is a paragon of his craft, demonstrating a tour de force that electrifies and transfixes. He forces his pain and anguish outward even in the most beautiful motions, the paper thin mask of joy on his face always on the cusp of bursting to flares from the raging inferno of suffering within. He manages both to eclipse with the power of his acting, and as a character shrink and twist himself down with the palsy of his past.

As a film about a man, Joker is a work that will be discussed as a high point in this era of cinema. It is worthy of praise and study for its devotion to the furtherance of the art in all aspects. As a movie about a character, The Joker, this move stays true to the character and presents a personal and chilling look at the fate that can befall anyone. Insanity, or clarity, can lurk behind the face of any man - and this film knows that what makes the Joker is more than a cackle and facepaint.

If you are lurking in this thread, undecided about seeing this film, go now. You will not regret it.

 

[Uranus Pink]

After having seen it, I can say that the movie got a little bit too melodramatic in parts, but otherwise it's a great film.

Joker film without a bit of onscreen melodrama just doesn't sound right.

 

[wholetthegodsout]

The idea that the movie is pro antifa is very misleading.

Spoiler

The movie almost is anti antifa in a certain sense. All the protesters are wearing clown masks and makeup. The subtext is they are all literally clowns. Joker explicitly states that he belives in nothing and the movement he starts is just pure coincidence. Basically the protestors are not in on the Joke