Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker - Won an Oscar

[Rupin]

I find the August Underground series to be very overrated. Very try hard in it's attempts to shock and awe the viewer. Just a lot of screaming from fat people trying to appear insane. The first one is okay but the rest were so OTT that I found them funny.



I saw it very recently and I think it's one of the best modern horror films.

The first one is the only one worth watching. The other two were cringe.

 

[Superman93]

 

[BrunoMattei]

The first one is the only one worth watching. The other two were cringe.

It's funny that around that time early/mid 00's there were quite a few guys in the indie scene trying to be the next Ruggero Deodato. You know? Trying to make the most shocking film(s) ever made banned everywhere. Fred Vogel is one of them, the others were Nick Palumbo (who had an epic melt down when the internet hated his POS film Murder-Set-Pieces) and the other was David Defalco who shot a scene for scene Last House on the Left ripoff named Chaos which was also a massive POS.

 

[King Kobra]

Maybe I'm a bit paranoid about all the circus around this movie,but seeing the movie budget being edited up more and more on it's wikipedia page it's a bit suspicious for me

Still,the movie seems performing way better people were expecting,glad for Phillips and Phoenix

 

[Leonard Helplessness]

"Joker" is a wildly uneven mess – and a dangerous one in the wrong ha…

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"A dangerous movie in the wrong hands." What the fuck is wrong with these people?

 

[BrunoMattei]

"Joker" is a wildly uneven mess – and a dangerous one in the wrong ha…

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"A dangerous movie in the wrong hands." What the fuck is wrong with these people?

They don't realize yet how irrelevant they actually are.

 

[AnOminous]

They don't realize yet how irrelevant they actually are.

It's just fucking sad how transparently they orchestrate these things.

 

[trekkor]

There was also the trailer for a The Shining spinoff or sequel or something which clearly used footage from Kubrick's film. Fucking dumb.

Doctor Sleep. I got that trailer as well, Ewan McGregor's in it playing Danny, so it's a sequel. I heard about it some time ago but completely forgot it existed until the trailer. It looked like your typical I REMEMBER WHAT THAT IS type of sequel/prequel/remake, so I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it's trash. Also it was amazing to hear the original music from The Shining being used over these scenes full of cheap modern horror movie scares and action scenes.

"Joker" is a wildly uneven mess – and a dangerous one in the wrong ha…

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"A dangerous movie in the wrong hands." What the fuck is wrong with these people?

I'm skimming the article and I'm wondering - why does the author think there was any need to develope Sophie?

Spoiler: sperging

The movie is from Arthur's POV and there are many MANY points in the movie where you can see that he has a very shallow view of success. If he gets a gf, he'll be happy (but it doesn't really matter what she's like as a person as long as she accepts him), if he can do stand up and make people laugh, he'll be happy (but we never see the audience after his fantasy nor hear his imagined jokes because he doesn't care, as long as he achieves his purpose), if he can go to deNiro's show, he'll be cheered by the public and embraced by the host as a friend and he'll be happy (but it doesn't matter what happens after, if he can make something of himself after that because he just wants that one high). Arthur is the main character, not Sophie, not his mother, not de Niro, not the Waynes'. It's a deep character piece, very unreliable one at that, and there is no need to develope the rest of the characters more than is needed because we're already seeing that Arthur is not reliable himself, so we can also guess there's more to the story than we see. So if the author is complaining that Sophie was nothing more than a prop, then he is right, but he also doesn't get that she was also that for Arthur.

 

[Notgoodwithusernames]

So I was talking about the movie with one of my roommates this morning and he brought up something I hadn't really thought of

Spoiler

How much of the movie was just Joker's delusions. It's very much established that like comics Joker he has a very loose grasp on reality. Could most of the film be a delusional fantasy and the only real scenes be the ones near the end where Joker has been locked up?

 

[Muttnik]

Saw the film again today. It was even more rewarding with a second viewing as I got to notice more details.

Spoiler

I'm really glad that the film remained ambiguous as to whether or not Thomas Wayne was actually Arthur's father, though imo it seems like it's not the case and that Arthur really was adopted by a crazy woman. Idk, the idea of him and Bruce being half-brothers would be weird af, especially considering the rather homoerotic fixation Joker has on Batman.

 

[Friend computer]

So I was talking about the movie with one of my roommates this morning and he brought up something I hadn't really thought of

Spoiler

How much of the movie was just Joker's delusions. It's very much established that like comics Joker he has a very loose grasp on reality. Could most of the film be a delusional fantasy and the only real scenes be the ones near the end where Joker has been locked up?

I think the, beginning was real, most of it delusional, and after

Spoiler: DONT READ IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED IT:

the neighbors murder it is all lies made up of his mind, because a double murder in the same house that a guy which is prime suspect of three killings lives? Yeah, not even the police would ignore that.

 

[Marissa Moira]

I'm pretty sure it's been rumored for awhile now that DC wants to turn Batman and Joker into Thor and Loki.

It would draw the female audience.

 

[Nobunaga]

Wait

Spoiler: Joker

i though joker was bruce half brother in the end seeing as how the mothers photo had a signature from thomas wayne saying that he loves her smile

 

[Friend computer]

Wait

Spoiler: Joker

i though joker was bruce half brother in the end seeing as how the mothers photo had a signature from thomas wayne saying that he loves her smile

When was that, didnt notice that detail.

 

[BOONES]

The prophesies foretold of an event of virgins going ghost, starting the beta uprising, gamers rising up from oppression.

 

[kūhaku]

Spoiler: Lots of reviews

Now, I knew the divide between critics and users was high, but... that is a LOT of reviews on imdb. It's #9 on the top 250 (imdb being the only people who seem to rate this highly, looks like they're at least not biased)
Christ, critics literally getting blown the fuck up by this movie.

 

[Coolio55]

Spoiler: General spoiler tag just because I will be dropping spoilers

Because I was a bit buzzed drunk AF, (and walked there) the trailers were already running when I got there... I might have missed one or two, but every single one I saw was terrible. I was somewhat surprised I didn't see a trailer for "Cuck" but I might have just missed it.

As for the movie...

It was easily the best movie I've seen this year. I think I empathized with Arthur a bit more than I was meant to, I was clearly the only one in the theater laughing at some of the "jokes", but I'm a horrible person and laugh at pretty dark shit at the best of times...

I liked the idea of Arthur being legit crazy, and a lot of the stuff we saw not actually happening... I immediately got that he didn't actually meet with De Niro in the beginning (and I only bring that up because I saw someone here earlier ask if it really happened- no it was Arthur having a fantasy), but I don't think the twist with the "love interest" was set up well enough... I actually went into it somewhat spoiled, and was still confused by the payoff. Not at all a deal breaker just a slight mis-step for me at least. Also, I heard a lot of people saying Thomas Wayne was a massive dick here, but I didn't see it... To him, a crazy man whom he didn't know (who was apparently the son of a crazy ex employee who he did remember) came to his house and did weird shit to his son, and then tried to confront him in a public bathroom the next day. Maybe Thomas could have been a bit nicer, but he was was hardly unjustified in punching Arthur.

I have more thoughts, but I'm about to pass out. Also, I didn't notice any police or feds at my theater.

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Haha. I got a bit too sympathetic with Arthur too. I was basically cheeing him on when he blew away those three guys on the subway and I agree with you on the whole "jokes nobody else in the theatre got" angle.

As for Thomas Wayne it's a blink and you'll miss it moment but his signature is on one of the back of Arthur's mother's photographs confirming that the relationship was real. I didn't get it when I saw it in the theatre either. He's also depicted as being a shit mayor and using it as a power grab rather than actually trying to solve problems. He was semi justified in punching Arthur though.

 

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Now, I knew the divide between critics and users was high, but... that is a LOT of reviews on imdb. It's #9 on the top 250.
Christ, critics literally getting blown the fuck up by this movie.

Even most of the Meter critics have this "Fresh," but if you look at the negative reviews, it's a veritable rogues gallery of the usual suspects, all invariably parroting some bullshit reeeee incels party line.

 

[Ruin]

2019 is best year, never thought I'd see the guy who directed The Hangover tell faggot journalists to kill themselves while a capeshit move has armed riot officers at the premier.

Honk honk motherfuckers!

 

[Revo]