Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker - Won an Oscar

[Terrorist]

Just saw it w/gf (lol) and it was pretty good. Not great but better than most capeshit.

Don't believe what dumbasses like Pim Tool say about it being an antifa movie, the ideology is generally anti-establishment and not far-left. Antifa are privileged footsoldiers of woke capital, not downtrodden or anti-establishment in any significant way. Unfortunately I can see some of the dumber conservative media running with that take.

 

[Revo]

Just saw it w/gf (lol) and it was pretty good. Not great but better than most capeshit.

Don't believe what dumbasses like Pim Tool say about it being an antifa movie, the ideology is generally anti-establishment and not far-left. Antifa are privileged footsoldiers of woke capital, not downtrodden or anti-establishment in any significant way. Unfortunately I can see some of the dumber conservative media running with that take.

Tim Pool's content is the same level of boring with quatering.

 

[Nobunaga]

When was that, didnt notice that detail.

When joker is getting ready before his coworkers show up

 

[CWCissey]

Joker: A work of art maybe, but is the violence valid? ★★★★☆

There are no laughs in this tale of a man who wants to be funny. It's heavy, serious, at times, slow.

www.bbc.co.uk

Beeb guy loved it. His only complaints were him taking issue with it's portrayal of mental health issues and some bullshit about the supporting characters not being fully developed in a pretty obvious character study

 

[Superman93]

Joker: A work of art maybe, but is the violence valid? ★★★★☆

There are no laughs in this tale of a man who wants to be funny. It's heavy, serious, at times, slow.

www.bbc.co.uk

supporting characters not being fully developed in a pretty obvious character study

Putting that it's a characther study aside, that criticism doesn't make any fucking sense. Every character's intentions, goals and motivations were explicitly made clear. Only a re-tard couldn't see it.

 

[Superman93]

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Haha. I got a bit too sympathetic with Arthur too. I was basically cheeing him on when he blew away those three guys on the subway and I agree with you on the whole "jokes nobody else in the theatre got" angle.

As for Thomas Wayne it's a blink and you'll miss it moment but his signature is on one of the back of Arthur's mother's photographs confirming that the relationship was real. I didn't get it when I saw it in the theatre either. He's also depicted as being a shit mayor and using it as a power grab rather than actually trying to solve problems. He was semi justified in punching Arthur though.

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Semi justified? He put his rotten disgusting fingers in his son's mouth.

 

[SamTheEagle]

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Regarding the photo with Thomas Wayne's signature, I wondered if Joker's mom wrote it herself as part of her delusions, or her previous bf's initials were TW and she convinced herself it was Wayne. But I also hate the idea of Joker and Bruce being brothers, so I'll accept pretty much anything that goes against it. I'd also take Thomas Wayne having an affair with her at one point, but not having a kid.

 

[Muttnik]

Part of me really hopes they don't make a sequel. A standalone film holds up the best. If they DID make a sequel though, a gritty, serious, non-deadpoolish introduction to Harley would be neat, if only to see how anyone could fall in love with this crazy bastard.

 

[Commander X]

 

[friedshrimp]

Part of me really hopes they don't make a sequel. A standalone film holds up the best. If they DID make a sequel though, a gritty, serious, non-deadpoolish introduction to Harley would be neat, if only to see how anyone could fall in love with this crazy bastard.

Maybe something like a more down to earth take on this:

 

[Bread Fetishist]

Is this a joke or another journo sperging out? I honestly can’t tell at this point.

 

[Muttnik]

Maybe something like a more down to earth take on this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Nss0ghyCrm0

A strange Scorsese-esque "love story" would actually be pretty interesting. I definitely wouldn't mind something weird like that.

 

[The Nothingness]

Before I get into my take on the movie (with spoilers), if Joaquin Phoenix is not even nominated for a Best Actor Oscar that is straight up bullshit.

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I don't know why the critics are against the Joker when his first act of murder was shooting those three Wall Street guys. Did they not see them harassing the woman on the subway? Also the imagery from the protesters was right up their alley: "Resist" signs, "Fascists" signs, and even an effigy of Thomas Wayne that looked more like Trump.

While it is confirmed Joker is not Wayne's son, revealing that he was adopted and was abused by his mother's boyfriend adds to the nature vs. nurture debate. Prior to that pivotal scene you may lean towards the nature aspect of the Joker's mental state because his mom has issues. But maybe this could be a mix of the two. It also makes the part where he smothers her that more depressing since you've seen the sweet moments between the two but also find out she did nothing to stop the abuse. The mood definitely changes when he calls her by her name and string instrumentals start up. I agree with others who say this score really adds to the movie.

Personally I don't think going back to the previous scenes with Arthur and his neighbor were needed to reveal they were not dating. Since it was pretty obvious when he broke into her apartment, there never was a relationship given how she reacted (plus when you go back to the diner scene, the way the cook stares at them indicates that Arthur is sitting alone but acting like he is with someone). Still not everyone can put things together and they'll need to be told what is going on.

As @Alto stated, this movie can work as a standalone. Sure you had the Bruce cameo and the murder of his parents but maybe Warner Bros. should think twice if they want to start another DC cinematic universe in a different direction (I don't know if the upcoming Batman movie that is suppose to be more of a detective movie will have tie-ins to Joker).

On a final note, I like how the final scene did not show how Joker killed the doctor at the asylum. All you saw was the bloody shoeprints and him being chased but it gave you implication that he could easily escape if and whenever he wants to.

Not only did my theater have a police officer patrolling the lobby but my screening of Joker had parents coming in with preteen children.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

I saw this and was really, really impressed with atmosphere and sound study that went into this.

Doesn't try to look as capeshit as possible so always a plus.

I was impressed with how they portrayed a character study as a believable origin, so really dumb fan theories can be laid to rest 500%

 

[Duke Nukem]

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Now I'm legitimately curious as to what Cole Smithey had to say about Joker.

"Not once did Joaquin Phoenix turn to the camera in a dramatized manner and say 'gamers rise up' or 'we live in a society.' Zero Stars."

I saw it Thursday night after gym, it was good. No sign of any incels or cops at my theater, but hey, I didn't get shot by an angry virgin so it's all good.

I saw this and was really, really impressed with atmosphere and sound study that went into this.

Doesn't try to look as capeshit as possible so always a plus.

I was impressed with how they portrayed a character study as a believable origin, so really dumb fan theories can be laid to rest 500%

You know what I've noticed? Nobody panics when things go according to plan, even if the plan is horrifying. If tomorrow I tell the press that a man would fall into a vat of toxic waste and turn into a villain, or that another capeshit movie would be released into theaters, no one reacts. Because it's all, part of the plan.

But when I say that one little ol' man will turn into a villain by being thrown into modern society, well then everyone loses their minds!

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I saw Joker and it was probably one of the best movies of 2019!

 

[AnOminous]

I saw it Thursday night after gym, it was good. No sign of any incels or cops at my theater, but hey, I didn't get shot by an angry virgin so it's all good.

To avoid getting shot up by an incel at a Joker screening, just show up during the opening credits. An incel would have shot his load prematurely during the previews.

 

[Manwithn0n0men]

Joker and Midsommar are tied for my #1 spot of 2019

IMO Midsommar is more disturbing and Raw. I also dont like elements of its ethos

 

[Duke Nukem]

To avoid getting shot up by an incel at a Joker screening, just show up during the opening credits. An incel would have shot his load prematurely during the previews.

To be fair, if Joker appeals to incels, why would they shoot up their own movie? Doesn't make a lot of sense.

I'm okay with mocking incels as much as the next guy, but really, this "hurr durr racist white people incels gunna murder us AWWWWWWLLLLL" shit from the media talking heads is getting really fucking stupid. Even compared to their normal levels of idiocy. /r/IncelTears types are even worse, but they're a story for another day.

I'm honestly tired of the media talking about them, yeah I get it, nobody's afraid of inbred goatfuckers blowing themselves up in crowds and shit anymore, so you need a new boogeyman. Seriously, go back to calling everybody Nazis.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Just got back from seeing it and I thought it was great.

Bravo to everyone involved.

Also, once again, a controversy surrounding a film proves to be overblown.