Joaquin Phoenix as the Joker - Won an Oscar

What will the combined score of shootings blamed on "Joker" be after opening weekend?

  • 0

    Votos: 13 11.7%
  • 1-10

    Votos: 23 20.7%
  • 11-20

    Votos: 3 2.7%
  • 21-39

    Votos: 5 4.5%
  • 40+

    Votos: 67 60.4%

  • Total de votantes
    111
  • Encuesta cerrada .
Addams Family has at least the thing of being the Addams. No, Tumblr was suggesting this:

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In an ideal world, nobody over the age of 8 would be interested in this.

I saw a fifteen-second commercial for this movie that literally used two separate quotes from a site I’ve never heard of called “The Nerds Of Color” and dismissed it on the spot.

...Was a bitch to find again, though, as it turns out there’s like 30 separate ads for it all with different quotes.



From that Grauniad review



"The only acceptable and woke films are those that portray people I disagree with as irredeemably evil and pathetic"

I can only read that as the author/movie trying to say “Mental illness isn’t a problem, he’d be fine if we didn’t have all these nazis around to radicalize him!” And that’s... a really fucking bad take.
 
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At this point is there really a need for professional film critics? We live in an age where fifty thousand people can put their own reviews online or make a video about the film and do it with 100% less pretentiousness in their writing/explaining and without being bought out by the big companies.

There is a place for film critics, but they have to be actually interested in the art/entertainment itself, and they can't be so steeped in delusion that they become incapable of accurately judging the quality of a film.

Video games journalists, on the other hand, are entirely superfluous now that you can watch a YouTube video or check Steam reviews.
 
::MANY:: pro critics (even hacks) have a craft to their work that is worthy

I don't exactly disagree, but that craft can become worthless if it's buried under too many layers of shit. And since "everything is political" to these hallucinating nuts, much of their craft has lost its value.

And again, I don't think the accusation of "valuable craft" applies to video games journalists. Virtually none of them ever do anything that could be described as actual journalism. They are merely self-glorified enthusiast press, and they're becoming increasingly bad at that as they chase recognition of their real-world value in their (rightfully) dying profession.
 
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There's also the conspiracy theory that Disney is shelling out money to media outlets to shit-talk the movie to scare people into not seeing it. And Disney is such scum I can believe that.

While it sounds like something that Disney would do, it's unverifiable at the moment. What I do maintain however, is that the media is now a grossly irresponsible entity that is run by people who couldn't be apolitical or truthful to save their lives. They are bloggers and behave as such, which is a far cry from the public service that the news was previously meant to be.
 
And again, I don't think the accusation of "valuable craft" applies to video games journalists. Virtually none of them ever do anything that could be described as actual journalism. They are merely self-glorified enthusiast press, and they're becoming increasingly bad at that as they chase recognition of their real-world value in their (rightfully) dying profession.

Game Journalists only say something interesting accidentally
 
The trolling is all too easy these days

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For those who have seen the movie, how convincing and believable is Arthur’s transformation into the Joker? Is it like Breaking Bad, where the main character slowly and gradually morphs into a villain over the course of the film/show, or is it more like the most recent season of Game of Thrones, where Daenerys turns genocidal without much thought or care as to how she got to that point?
 
I wonder if this movie ,have the same vibe with They live .
 
Guess I'm watching this film this weekend. Hopefully it lives up to the audience rave reviews. At this point is there really a need for professional film critics? We live in an age where fifty thousand people can put their own reviews online or make a video about the film and do it with 100% less pretentiousness in their writing/explaining and without being bought out by the big companies. Yet again, this is another film where critics don't match audience reaction. I bet you these fart huffers will think that the "unwashed masses" have the wrong opinion for liking this incel film, as opposed to just wanting to watch a good film and be entertained.

I dont even read most film reviews anymore. I listen to a few youtube critics now, and even then I dont agree with them always

There's also the conspiracy theory that Disney is shelling out money to media outlets to shit-talk the movie to scare people into not seeing it. And Disney is such scum I can believe that.

Press X to doubt
 
The trolling is all too easy these days

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I just had to check if that was real, after seeing armed security patrolling the building last night. It's a hoax:

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For those who have seen the movie, how convincing and believable is Arthur’s transformation into the Joker? Is it like Breaking Bad, where the main character slowly and gradually morphs into a villain over the course of the film/show, or is it more like the most recent season of Game of Thrones, where Daenerys turns genocidal without much thought or care as to how she got to that point?

They do an excellent job with Arthur's descent into insanity.

Arthur is a fuckup, and not one of his own making. He was adopted by an insane woman who relentlessly abused him, and he locked away the memories in order to cope. He didn't even know he was adopted; his mother was under the delusion that she had had an affair with Thomas Wayne and Arthur was his illegimate son.

His repressed childhood trauma manifested as a score of mental illnesses, for which he was receiving treatment -- until Gotham City cut the funding to the social programs that were trying to help him. Still, he tries to get help, only to be shut down at every turn. He loses his job as a shitty clown, he gets attacked by a group of rich thugs and kills them while in clown makeup, and this leads to him becoming a figurehead for the city's downtrodden -- the public doesn't know who the killer was, but the underclasses regard him as an "eat the rich"-type vigilante and begin to rise up. Meanwhile, Arthur's attempts at stand-up comedy are so godawful that he's invited onto Gotham's equivalent of The Tonight Show, where the host mocks him and his mental condition until Arthur confesses to the murders and kills the host in a rage on live TV, sparking riots that consume the city.

There's a lot more to the story than that, but those are the highlights.
 
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For those who have seen the movie, how convincing and believable is Arthur’s transformation into the Joker? Is it like Breaking Bad, where the main character slowly and gradually morphs into a villain over the course of the film/show, or is it more like the most recent season of Game of Thrones, where Daenerys turns genocidal without much thought or care as to how she got to that point?

I thought it was pretty well-done. More details under spoiler tag, but not major plot stuff.

Most of the big kills legitimately make a sick amount of sense and you fully understand his motivations for doing them, he isn’t just suddenly a spree killer out of nowhere.
 
The Guardian now has two reviews up for the movie, on scored it a 10 and the other scored it a 4. You'd absolutely never guess which came out during Venice and which came out after the media had time to build up a consensus about it.
 
For those who have seen the movie, how convincing and believable is Arthur’s transformation into the Joker? Is it like Breaking Bad, where the main character slowly and gradually morphs into a villain over the course of the film/show, or is it more like the most recent season of Game of Thrones, where Daenerys turns genocidal without much thought or care as to how she got to that point?

Better then Breaking Bad (which is a hack show)
 
The Guardian now has two reviews up for the movie, on scored it a 10 and the other scored it a 4. You'd absolutely never guess which came out during Venice and which came out after the media had time to build up a consensus about it.
I'm surprised the guardian didn't sperg about incels. I'm pretty sure the whole incel angle and "oh the army is worried about shootings" was all marketing. Though I wont rule out glow-in-the-dark shooting antics until the first week is over.
 
Better then Breaking Bad (which is a hack show)

lol ok. Also Walter White was already a piece of shit, so it wasn't a decent into nothing. It was just him being unleashed by being a criminal instead of chained by rules and civilization.
 
The feds have been predicting "Gamers" would rise up since 02
> since 02
I don't know when Leslie Fish wrote This Game Is Real (certainly not 2009), but the references in it are about as ancient as the based fujoshi queen herself:

"I'm a live-roleplaying gamer,
I used to play out in the wood
Twilight 2000 and Shadowrun
I played whenever I could.
I'd put on my costume and shoot tin cans
And make firecrackers fly
Then my front door got kicked down again -
This time it was the FBI.

They stole my guns, my video tapes,
Every book I'd ever read,
And a couple of bags of fertilizer
Out of the garden shed.
They told the press I was a terrorist
And planned to blow up half the town,
They called me a raving militia nut
And a neo-nazi clown."

The 2000 of Twilight 2000 was a post-apocalyptic future. 2020, as in Cyberpunk 2020, is in three months.
 
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