I really, really hate fan fiction.

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Midnight Kissy Bull dijo:
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And while we're on the subject of established writers doing fanfics, I'd like to point out that Cassandra Clare, author of the Mortal Instruments series--and all the flippin' spin offs she's planning--was a Big Name Fan in the Harry Potter fandom. In fact, the MI title itself and the plot was lifted from one of her HP fics (a lot of her detractors have stated that Clary = Ginny, Jace = Draco, Simon = Harry, etc.). There are also bits from her "Draco in Leather Pants" trilogy that were used in the MI books. If you Google long enough, you might find the whole trilogy in a handy zip file. Warning: the third book is a doozy.


That might explain why that movie looks like a piece of shit.

I guess the rules have changed. The tastes of the general public are so fucking bad, that any teenager who writes a Twilight or Harry Potter slash can eventually sell an actual series that other tweeners with terrible fucking taste will make a million seller.

I weep.

Edit: Oh geez, she's 40, it's so much worse...
 
soIregistered dijo:
I guess the rules have changed. The tastes of the general public are so fucking bad, that any teenager who writes a Twilight or Harry Potter slash can eventually sell an actual series that other tweeners with terrible fucking taste will make a million seller.

I weep.

Please share with us your enlightened tastes...
 
I have to come clean here guys. I wrote fanfiction when I was around 16 years old. Now, that wouldn't be bad, if I hadn't tried to write a damn sex-scene as my first writing attempt, and of a fanon couple no less. Seriously, I still don't get why it got favorited so much.
 
Niachu dijo:
soIregistered dijo:
I guess the rules have changed. The tastes of the general public are so fucking bad, that any teenager who writes a Twilight or Harry Potter slash can eventually sell an actual series that other tweeners with terrible fucking taste will make a million seller.

I weep.

Please share with us your enlightened tastes...

Classic plays and historical biographies, mostly. Look, I have every right to hate bad books, don't I? I don't need to read more than 3 pages of a Twilight book to know it's a pile of shit.
 
soIregistered dijo:
Niachu dijo:
soIregistered dijo:
I guess the rules have changed. The tastes of the general public are so fucking bad, that any teenager who writes a Twilight or Harry Potter slash can eventually sell an actual series that other tweeners with terrible fucking taste will make a million seller.

I weep.

Please share with us your enlightened tastes...

Classic plays and historical biographies, mostly. Look, I have every right to hate bad books, don't I? I don't need to read more than 3 pages of a Twilight book to know it's a pile of shit.

Heh, of course you do. No one is disputing that the Twilight series is a sub-par collection of books. You're also free to hate all fan-fiction, though I disagree with the sentiment and find it baffling the sheer amount of offense you take to it.

Though, about the Twilight thing, how much of it have you read? I dislike the series on numerous accounts, though it does have at least merit of holding my attention long enough to read through more than half of it. I picked it up in the first place to see what all the hubbub was about so I could pass judgement for myself. Wouldn't you agree it's wise for others to do the same before they start throwing around criticisms?
 
With Twilight, admittedly not much. But I often need about 3 pages and to see the target audience of a book before I know I hate it. I think of every person who ever recommended Twilight to me, and everyone of them had awful taste in books, had never read a Shakespeare play and thought Dostoyevsky was a made-up name. Some of these people also thought that the second World War was in the '70s. I'm completely guilty of judging things based on target audience and fan base. Admitted, hands-up, guilty.

Harry Potter is good. Well written and enjoyable. More about the finding of oneself and not so much about "An abusive relationship is okay, because having a hot boyfriend is totes important."

Generally, my raging at fanfiction comes from a few friends. I'm anonymously raging at my friends who post awful stories and want feedback that I don't have the heart to give them. Also, it's like every Doctor Who fan goes to the internet and says "Steven Moffat is so terrible, I should be the showrunner." I just want to grab them by the ears and scream: No, no you shouldn't. He's a brilliant writer responsible for the best reviewed episodes of the show's modern era who has been working in TV since before you were born. You would turn Doctor Who into Rose/Ten porn.
 
Ah, I see. If one loves a series it's natural to be offended when you perceive someone defiling its canon. I've encountered such people, and if they seem intelligent enough I engage them for the sake of debate. If not, I just avoid running in the same circles as them.

My standards are quite high in most things and I don't partake in fanfiction as much as I used to, but I have a few stories I follow because they are excellent by any writer's standards. Among the kink fulfillment and 13 year-old chicken scratch are some hidden gems.
 
soIregistered dijo:
With Twilight, admittedly not much. But I often need about 3 pages and to see the target audience of a book before I know I hate it. I think of every person who ever recommended Twilight to me, and everyone of them had awful taste in books, had never read a Shakespeare play and thought Dostoyevsky was a made-up name. Some of these people also thought that the second World War was in the '70s. I'm completely guilty of judging things based on target audience and fan base. Admitted, hands-up, guilty.

Harry Potter is good. Well written and enjoyable. More about the finding of oneself and not so much about "An abusive relationship is okay, because having a hot boyfriend is totes important."

Generally, my raging at fanfiction comes from a few friends. I'm anonymously raging at my friends who post awful stories and want feedback that I don't have the heart to give them. Also, it's like every Doctor Who fan goes to the internet and says "Steven Moffat is so terrible, I should be the showrunner." I just want to grab them by the ears and scream: No, no you shouldn't. He's a brilliant writer responsible for the best reviewed episodes of the show's modern era who has been working in TV since before you were born. You would turn Doctor Who into Rose/Ten porn.
Ah, I understand that. I used to be the same way for a while. I thought if I saw a certain amount of something, I could make judgments over it. Like, I saw part of the first episode of Gurren Lagann and lost interest only to find out it's about giant robots and manliness and stuff I like years later. There's probably lots of things I still have a poor opinion about that I've yet to see. Trust me, when you really dig into it and expose yourself to the whole work, then you can form and validate your low, awful opinion about something that people will take into consideration. I didn't read that much of Twilight, so I don't make judgments about the whole book. The movie, however, I saw and I thought it was awful. Not gonna make a big huge post about my opinion of Twilight, but yeah, when people talk to me about it, I can give more feedback than, "my friend hates it, so I gotta hate it!"

I can't really say all the fanfiction in the world is bad because I've read good fanfiction before, but I do see where you're coming from. I used to read bad fanfiction to my friends all the time, and we'd giggle for hours and look at the author's profile and laugh at that. Actually, you can't really say an entire genre of something is bad because there might come a point when someone makes something you enjoy or don't outright hate. It goes both ways as well; there are some really bad works by people revered as literary geniuses (namely Romeo and Juliet since you mentioned Shakespeare. God, that was awful. Can't say many bad things about Dostoyevsky, though. I like him). All in all, you just have to go into the battlefield with an open mind and see how much you can handle until you snap.

And Harry Potter's alright. I used to read it as a kid.
 
Somehow I read an MLP:FiM fan-fic written by a guy I know starring the red horse whose name is like that of McDonalds' iconic burger. I found said fan-fic to be creepy and disturbing though I also can't help but laugh since I kinda thought it would be the kind that can troll fans of certain characters.
 
Real men only read the back of his Cheerios box.

I loves Cheerios....
 
c-no dijo:
Somehow I read an MLP:FiM fan-fic written by a guy I know starring the red horse whose name is like that of McDonalds' iconic burger. I found said fan-fic to be creepy and disturbing though I also can't help but laugh since I kinda thought it would be the kind that can troll fans of certain characters.
Is that the one where he murders a bunch of pony children because they were being too noisy or some shit?
 
revengeofphil dijo:
c-no dijo:
Somehow I read an MLP:FiM fan-fic written by a guy I know starring the red horse whose name is like that of McDonalds' iconic burger. I found said fan-fic to be creepy and disturbing though I also can't help but laugh since I kinda thought it would be the kind that can troll fans of certain characters.
Is that the one where he murders a bunch of pony children because they were being too noisy or some shit?
Yes. Sweet Apple Massacre. The guy I know dug it up and made some edits to it that he described as more "visual". To be honest, I felt creeped out reading but in the end, I felt like laughing for some reason. I guess its due to the fact that I've seen/read worse things than a fan-fic that would troll fans and disgust others. The guy did see a possible moral in that people seem friendly at first but can end up showing their true nature.
 
I read fanfic regularly and I've seen some fantastic stuff out there, especially in the MLP fandom. Go read Hard Reset by Eakin sometime, the sheer wit alone is enough to make it worth your while.

I'm writing my very first full-length fic, but it's slow going and the character development isn't all that great.
 
Screaming Llama dijo:
I read fanfic regularly and I've seen some fantastic stuff out there, especially in the MLP fandom. Go read Hard Reset by Eakin sometime, the sheer wit alone is enough to make it worth your while.

I'm writing my very first full-length fic, but it's slow going and the character development isn't all that great.

I despise MLP with every fiber of my being. Sorries.
 
I wonder if there's a fanfiction which has the most crossovers/rip-offs.
 
Alan Pardew dijo:
I wonder if there's a fanfiction which has the most crossovers/rip-offs.
Yeah, it's called Christian Humber Reloaded and it's super long and has at least 20 francises jammed in there. One of the is bionicles weirdly enough
 
Saney dijo:

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Wait a minute, this guy got the cast of Futurama, and put them in a team from ARIZONA, but that isn't the least of the problems in this thing.
 
TastyWB 2.0 dijo:
Saney dijo:

([C] denotes team captain)

Arizona Phoenixes

Chaser: Fry [C] (#99)

Chaser: Leela (#30)

Chaser: Bender (#22)

Beater: Zoidberg (#10)

Beater: Hermes Conrad (#37)

Keeper: Zapp Brannigan (#25)

Seeker: Amy Wong (#31)

Coach: Hubert J. Farnsworth

Wait a minute, this guy got the cast of Futurama, and put them in a team from ARIZONA, but that isn't the least of the problems in this thing.
Yeah, wait until you get to the actual quiditch matches. They're...bizarre, to say the least. It's really weird to see characters from kids shows swear that much.
 
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