I really, really hate fan fiction.

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My best friend loves reading fanfiction. Usually yaoi. I tend to poke fun at her ships and such.
I do, however, have a bit of a guilty pleasure - reading terrible, terrible fanfics. It doesn't matter what genre it is, as long as it's so bad it's good, I'll probably read it.
 
Is it wrong if I find the "Cupcakes" MLP fanfic not creepy at all and kinda stupid?
 
Alan Pardew dijo:
Is it wrong if I find the "Cupcakes" MLP fanfic not creepy at all and kinda stupid?
I think that too. I also think that The Pokemon Story that Rob of FanFiction Friday hated so much wasn't that bad. I mean, sure, it was a terrible, horribly written story, but it definetly was as bad as he hyped it up to be.
 
Darky dijo:
People who say all fanfiction is terrible have never read Halflife: Full Life Consequences and its sequels.
That's the one that started a meme, right?
 
I don't really see the need to despise fanfiction. As long as the writers are having fun and don't let it take over their lives and aren't hurting anyone, I don't mind.

But I have to ask; where would fiction like American Gods or Wicked fall, considering these are books that take public domain characters and put them in new stories?
 
Schadenfreude dijo:
I don't really see the need to despise fanfiction. As long as the writers are having fun and don't let it take over their lives and aren't hurting anyone, I don't mind.

But I have to ask; where would fiction like American Gods or Wicked fall, considering these are books that take public domain characters and put them in new stories?

Thank you for making that point.
 
Null dijo:
Trombonista's LJ friends write fanfiction and she wants to do the same.

I'm not sure how well this fixes it, but... FTFY. :oops:
 
Schadenfreude dijo:
But I have to ask; where would fiction like American Gods or Wicked fall, considering these are books that take public domain characters and put them in new stories?

Those were done by established authors with established careers.
 
There was a girl I had a crush on before I met my wife who was obsessed with Star Wars and Harry Potter and wrote cringe inducing fan fic about both, but not combined...I don't think. Anyways she's an internet junkie and a shut-in now.
 
soIregistered dijo:
Schadenfreude dijo:
But I have to ask; where would fiction like American Gods or Wicked fall, considering these are books that take public domain characters and put them in new stories?

Those were done by established authors with established careers.

With or without the credentials it's still fan-fiction. Anything not written by the original creator is fan-fiction I believe.
 
Let the little girls (either teens or "young at heart") have their fun. If it shows the inner workings of the minds of strange people, it must be good. In some way if not as a story itself.

Hell, I'm scratching out some CWC fanfic comics just for wish fulfillment and exercise. I think I'm becoming more creative and competent at drawing.

Actually, on that note there are a few kickass CWC fanfics floating around, from a few sentences to several pages.
 
I used to write terrible crossover fanfictions back then.
 
I liked American Gods. it was a good book. And I write fanfiction, though not as much as I used to. I don't use Mary Sues, the characters of whatever I am writing aboutare the stars of the show. However, there IS plenty of bad fanfics out there, so I can see why fanfics have such a bad rap. I can not tell you how many shitty Mary Suefics I have come across in the fandom I mainly write for. I shudder any time I see a summary that includes 'Character of x/OC' and refuse to even click on these.

For me, fanfiction is a hobby, a way to have fun with the franchise I am a fan of. I mainly write in one category, but once in a while I dabble in a short story or oneshot for a different franchise. In the category that I mainly write in, I've garnered a lot of fans and became one of the 'big names'. This can be attributed to the fact that I write a couple that is popular within said franchise, but more because my writing is quality and I did historical research and worked hard to make my stories coherent and believable. I've had people comment that I should become an author, that my stories would work well as novels if I just changed the names, etc. (No, I'm not doing that, I am leaving the stories where they are and have no plans to give them the 50 Shades treatment)

Fanfiction has also helped me to grow as an author. I learned from the feedback from my fans, and that eventually helped me to become a serious/published author. I know that may sound strange. I realize that fanfiction has gotten a bad rap with the whole 50 Shades of Gray garbage (Twilight sucked, and 50 Shades sucked) and many teens write fanfiction and grow out of it eventually, but for some, fanfiction is a way for fledgling authors to get the feedback they need to refine their writing abilities. Fanfiction is also fun because it allows you to meet other fans within the community of whatever franchise/show/etc you're writing for. I've made some friends through this, and garnered a lot of fans because I was careful with my writing and strove for the best writing I could manage.

Now I don't fanfic as much as I do. I still do a oneshot or short story once in a blue moon, and as for my existing fanfic I've gone back to edit it to improve its quality. I don't regret doing fanfic, as it has really helped me grow as an author, and it is also what helped me realize I wanted to be an author. When I started, it was just for fun, to be part of the community of fans, etc, but the more I wrote, the more I realized I enjoyed it and wanted to write my own original books.

Course, most fanfic sucks. About 90 (at least) percent of the fanfiction I've seen sucks. And that's just in the fandom that I mainly write for. I know there's lots of garbage in the MLP:FIM, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, etc etc fandoms, in terms of both Mary Sues and/or poor quality writing. I'm not part of these fandoms but I've heard my friends who are part of these fandoms complain about the shitty fanfics, fanart, and overall fantards in these fandoms.
 
^ I used to write Sonic the Hedgehog and CatDog fanfiction. (No crossovers, though. And definitely no slash or erotica.) Like you, I also made friends within these communities, and I got a lot of feedback on my writing. (Mostly negative with the Sonic ones, a bit more positive feedback with the CatDog ones.) That was years and years ago, back in my teens and early 20s. I was thin-skinned and took the negative feedback poorly, but later on, I realized that if I wanted people to like my writing, I had to be more action-based. Less talky, more walky. Or whatever "genius-sounding" phrase I'd come up with back then.

My most recent venture into fanfiction happened a few years ago with a handful of Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog short shorts/flash fiction/drabbles. I wanted to continue them, since AoStH is such a fun world, but after that experiment, I started to work on an original sci fi novel, and I never looked back. (First draft: ~140K. Second draft: ~230K. It's now resting while I work on other, shorter projects. No, I'm sorry, this particular novel is going to have to be that long, considering that I'm dealing with space travel, an alien society, a movie crew, and a storm from hell.) I wish I could write a few more drabbles, but then I think, "My other writing won't get done."

Writing fanfic was good practice, but I find more freedom and joy in creating my own worlds and characters. I've wanted to be a writer since I was 8, and while I did create my own stories as a child, there was something more comfortable about fanfiction. There were already established worlds and characters to play with. Of course, this being the 90s, they were pretty simplistic characters--cut-outs, even--so it was easier to keep track of them. I occasionally tweaked their traits to suit my purposes, of course, but I didn't do anything too dramatic. At least, as far as I can remember. Naturally, I made OCs, wrote stories about them... and was called boring for them. Oh, well.

I have some fond memories of those days, but like I said, there's more freedom and joy in my own works. Fanfiction was just a springboard.

And while we're on the subject of established writers doing fanfics, I'd like to point out that Cassandra Clare, author of the Mortal Instruments series--and all the flippin' spin offs she's planning--was a Big Name Fan in the Harry Potter fandom. In fact, the MI title itself and the plot was lifted from one of her HP fics (a lot of her detractors have stated that Clary = Ginny, Jace = Draco, Simon = Harry, etc.). There are also bits from her "Draco in Leather Pants" trilogy that were used in the MI books. If you Google long enough, you might find the whole trilogy in a handy zip file. Warning: the third book is a doozy.
 
I've heard of Cassandra Clare, but never bothered to check out her books. I plan to do sci-fi in the future and already have some world-rules and characters and societal rules in place, but it needs more world-building, as well as more plot details, before I can start an actual book about it. I have read an article about Ms. Clare and how she apparently copied some of her lines and dialogue not from her own fanfic, but from other books and etc. I don't know where to find it otherwise I'd link it here.
 
I write fan fiction sometimes.

I'll admit most of the shit is from when I was 12 and I don't feel like deleting it because I don't like denying what I did in the past. What's done is done. (Also if I delete it, I won't be able to show people my "writing" from when I was 12 compared to my writing now)

Although I've never finished writing a single one in my life.

Except for trollfics like Teh Humen Centped III: Return of teh Centped REDUX.
 
Picklepower dijo:
I don't care what the so called "experts" say, my Full House/Space Battleship Yamato crossover fic is literary gold!

That sounds way more exciting than a regular Full House episode.

CalmMyTits dijo:
I've heard of Cassandra Clare, but never bothered to check out her books. I plan to do sci-fi in the future and already have some world-rules and characters and societal rules in place, but it needs more world-building, as well as more plot details, before I can start an actual book about it. I have read an article about Ms. Clare and how she apparently copied some of her lines and dialogue not from her own fanfic, but from other books and etc. I don't know where to find it otherwise I'd link it here.

I know what you're talking about, and damned if I can't find the article, either. If you ever read the Draco trilogy, you'll definitely note when the writing style changes; some passages seem more professionally and tightly written than others, and these are, indeed, the plagiarized parts. Of course, to "protect" Clare, the person who compiled the PDFs of the trilogy had written this in the disclaimer:

Disclaimer: This story is based on characters and situations created and owned by JK Rowling, various publishers including but not limited to Bloomsbury Books, Scholastic Books and Raincoast Books, and Warner Bros., Inc. No money is being made and no copyright or trademark infringement is intended. This work contains quotes from movies and television shows, stories and plays, novels and films. They are cited at the end of each chapter. Other citations can be made where necessary. I collect funny quotes, like a pack rat, and don't always know where they come from. Sometimes I make source errors in good faith, or leave things off by accident. Sometimes I don't know where something comes from, in which case I note it anyway. Let me know any of these things, and I will add the citation.

As a result of finding Clare and her plagiarized works, I'm now considering reading Pamela Dean's The Secret Country trilogy.

And if you're wondering how she got published, she's friends in real life with Holly Black.
 
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