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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votos: 93 9.9%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votos: 117 12.5%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votos: 225 24.0%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votos: 445 47.5%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votos: 56 6.0%

  • Total de votantes
    936
I'm at least genuine in my moralfagging about Jet since I earnestly believe his poor character and life choices have negatively affected the show to the degree that it may be unsalvageable, which is sad because I like Fishtank a lot.
aw geez dood the cybernazi poopoopeepee autism hour isn't a morally sound piece of performance art? man thats rough buddy I sure hope they don't add a challenge where they force all the contestants to count rice for no reason
 
Is it wrong tho
Woah!
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nah, you're doing the markyposter thing and saying jet bad for defiling virgin when it's actually jet bad for enticing contestants with false promise of relationship and career opportunity just so he can sex, which is just objectively worse than defiling a virgin
The expected result changes with these factors. The reason Ellie was so vulnerable was her being a damaged but relatively innocent and naive kid. I'm not really clutching pearls as much as stating the obvious, it was pretty likely to be a factor in her emotional state. It happened in front of the whole world too, when i say it's her legacy i mean Fishtank immortalizes all of this, including the embarrassing stuff that happened after with Jet. Anyone who wanted to know about her would see it online, it became a spectacle for us. That carries a different weight when its an 18 year old girls first time. And she was about to go to a SoCal college with all this over her head. And yes, maybe Jet should've made it a policy not to mix sex-pesting and work.

do you care about whatever guy fucked Betty first?
idk what happened to Betty but I sure as shit am glad im not one of the people to blame for it. And yes absolutely taking your turn on either etty is nowhere near as bad as the situation with ellie dont be ridiculous
 
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The reason Ellie was so vulnerable was her being a virgin damaged kid
i'mma just be real with you bro, her being a virgin had nothing to do with it. literally her being inexperienced with drugs and hanging out with much older drug users is worse than her being inexperienced with sex and hanging out with sex-havers. that adds the question: "was she taken advantage of?" into the mix, which is worse than consensual sex between adults.

and let's be double-real here, she was definitely not inexperienced with sex to the degree you're claiming. asexuals aren't real. she had mentioned having boyfriends before, she was a good-looking 18 year old who lived with another good-looking woman. whatever sexual trauma came from growing up with a crackhead mom definitely didn't help, but you're acting like Jet plucked her from the Church Choir. figure it out, person.

taking your turn on either etty is nowhere near as bad as the situation with ellie dont be ridiculous
it is imo worse to try and chase either of them because they both have clear, visible history of self harm and eating disorders, ellie at least seemed fairly normal from the outside and her publicly made comments are only concerning in the retrospect of her acting on suicidal ideation.

what's worse to you, fucking an 18 year old virgin who makes concerning comments but masks them with irony, or fucking a 20 year old swut who has wrists that look like a railroad track and weighs 80lbs? your whole view on this is wack, man.
 
i'mma just be real with you bro, her being a virgin had nothing to do with it. literally her being inexperienced with drugs and hanging out with much older drug users is worse than her being inexperienced with sex and hanging out with sex-havers. that adds the question: "was she taken advantage of?" into the mix, which is worse than consensual sex between adults.
You seem hyper fixated on even the mention of the virginity. Its just one factor dude. She talked about her virginity kind of a lot, had a "fortress" of a hole then gave it to jet and he slam dunked that bitch in the trash for your viewing pleasure on r/fishtanklive

what's worse to you, fucking an 18 year old virgin who makes concerning comments but masks them with irony, or fucking a 20 year old swut who has wrists that look like a railroad track and weighs 80lbs? your whole view on this is wack, man.
Hows this even a question? If the virgin wants a future then you could ruin her hopes and dreams by using her for sex. The ran through crazy slut is just having another monday, they already got broken and made it through. The emotional effect on the girl is sledgehammer vs love tap. Also something to be said about the value of what is lost but we don't have to get into that. I do feel like Ellie had a potentially brighter future than Betty though.
 
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You seem hyper fixated on even the mention of the virginity. Its just one factor dude
It's kinda the entire root of why you think Nepstroon is bad, like you said:
The ran through slut is just having another monday, theyre already got broken and made it through. The emotional effect on the girl is sledgehammer vs love tap
When it's literally worse to try and fuck someone who's already clearly a suicidal headcase, especially when you add drugs into the mix - which imo is the most predatory shit Jet does.

The problem is he likes weak-willed girls he has some form of power over, and likes getting them drunk/high in order lower their inhibitions and have sex, not whatever purity-sperging you're doing.
 
It's kinda the entire root of why you think Nepstroon is bad, like you said:

When it's literally worse to try and fuck someone who's already clearly a suicidal headcase, especially when you add drugs into the mix - which imo is the most predatory shit Jet does.

The problem is he likes weak-willed girls he has some form of power over, and likes getting them drunk/high in order lower their inhibitions and have sex, not whatever purity-sperging you're doing.

I think he's bad for all the same reasons you do but i especially think its bad that this girl went through it compared to the others, yes. Youre talking about why you hate Jet, Im talking about why Ellie was so vulnerable. Were just talking past each other shitting up the thread. good night
 
I think he's bad for all the same reasons you do but i especially think its bad that this girl went through it compared to the others, yes. Youre talking about why you hate Jet, Im talking about why Ellie was so vulnerable. Were just talking past each other shitting up the thread. good night
But how would you feel if it had been Angie?
 
Going on fishtank was a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself. She wasn't the victim people want her to be, Ellie was clearly the smartest person in the room at any given point.
I can tell you that college pressure and the paralysis you get when you don't know what you should do with your life between 18 and 24, combined with being on SSRIs, combined with careless parenting, dopamine addiction, porn addiction, and ADD wiring from those addictions is a recipe for suicidal ideation. I've been there. I still regret some of the decisions I did and didn't make while in that state, but thank God I never harmed myself.
Yes, being on Fishtank probably wasn't a mental health reset, or some kind of awakening. It was probably the highlight of her life in some sense, but only because it fit in with some of the wrong parts of her wiring. I believe Jet and crew probably did see her potential and told her to go use her intelligence in college or something. I don't think she wanted to.

If you're reading this and you're young, just pick something that sounds kinda cool career wise and go learn it. Come up with a project idea that you could do (code an app, fix an A/C unit, design a pool, doesn't fucking matter) and go try it. You're allowed and should be encouraged to try different things. You do not need college, but you might as well go if you have a free ride. It won't be as miserable as you think.

It will help to rearrange the furniture in your room, start working out, and adopt different eating habits while you're at it. Clean slate.
The reason why everything sucks is because you're young and hormonal, and you're steeped in the environment that reminds you of your vices and sadness. Change it all at once.

RIP Ellie, arguably the FT contestant with best future ahead of her. This news fucking blows. Blaming Jet is absolutely retarded imo. Kinda funny, but retarded.
 
If the virgin wants a future then you could ruin her hopes and dreams by using her for sex.
Why are you so stuck on the virgin part of it? The problem with your argument is that you seemingly assume everything in life is a function of having sex (or seemingly in this case who you lost your virginity to) which is a very naive point of view to have.
What if a woman has had sex one time which was fine and then has a weird sexual experience the second time? Does that also ruin her hopes and dreams? Or does it not matter because she has had sex before? You seem to equate virginity to something paramount that fundamentally changes people when they have sex for the first time when in reality that's just flat-out false.
You literally come off as this:
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Tay has managed to get verified on Kick.
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While many of the Fish already are, I think she is the first one to actually grind it out herself and not get it through asking Letty for a handout through whatever contacts she has there, although the Twins for sure would've also gotten verified already thanks to the audience they got right after Season 5 and are still going strong. This will eventually allow her to get KCIP and be paid for streaming, making it more profitable. She's been trying to make more money out of streaming so that she can eventually move out of her moms place.
 
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