Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company

How does that change anything?
Context is important. Having people (especially friends) bail on you without even the courtesy of a "Fuck you," to clear harder content with another group entirely is an understandable reason to be upset. Judging by the guy's whiney and entitled attitude, it almost speaks for itself why someone would just ghost his ass though.
 
Context is important.
Yes, but not in this case.
Having people (especially friends) bail on you without even the courtesy of a "Fuck you," to clear harder content with another group entirely is an understandable reason to be upset.
I never said he had no right to be upset, I said that ghosting a friend is not "drama", bitching about it publicly is.
 
In retrospect, you should have added a caveat for Tumblr fanart tier "everyone's implicitly gay and/or the sassiest bitch" styled art as well.

Sometimes there's a good one among them but the style is just so prevalent that I happen to find them boring.
The weird thing about that is I can tell, or rather I have a strong suspicion, that when someone draws that I always know that person is a woman and I legitimately cannot tell why some women are so obsessed with seeing same sex shit. My theory is it’s an “abstract fetish”. Like with men you can tell when fetish porn is drawn by men because generally it’s concrete and tangible, but with women it’s more like the emotional feeling or the empathy they derive from it that gets them off is what makes them horny I guess.

Long time ago I wanted to make a thread about a series called “My Pride” but I couldn’t because the receipts and it’s failure was poorly journalized so I had nothing to make a thread with, but it’s basically a show about lesbian lionesses and in one episode they both hit it off after a couple sentences and I usually would just shrug and not really care, but the comments were always alleged lesbians and I guess other women getting all excited writing shit like “this show has two gay lionesses *inner lesbian intensifies*”. And it’s also like I don’t know why. I don’t know why some women online are so drawn to yaoi coupling or gay shipping. “This person will never be attracted to me nor does he want to fuck me, but I’m going to jack off to it anyways!” Is not a mindset that makes sense to me.

That’s why I theorize it’s abstract fetishism and I’m not a woman (and I’ll never be one lmao) and I’ll never know what that feels like. But maybe someone in this thread can help me out.
 
Yes, but not in this case.

I never said he had no right to be upset, I said that ghosting a friend is not "drama", bitching about it publicly is.
I never said you said that. I merely commented that he is upset for a somewhat understandable reason, even though his attitude lends some explanation as to why he ended up subjected to said circumstance. For him, it's probably a matter of personal drama and it probably should have stayed personal.

Why are you sperging so much over this? I'm in agreement with your main point that it's all really gay and whiney.
 
I don’t know why some women online are so drawn to yaoi coupling or gay shipping. “This person will never be attracted to me nor does he want to fuck me, but I’m going to jack off to it anyways!” Is not a mindset that makes sense to me.

That’s why I theorize it’s abstract fetishism and I’m not a woman (and I’ll never be one lmao) and I’ll never know what that feels like. But maybe someone in this thread can help me out.
There's some people out there who will write a whole convoluted essay about blah blah escaping heterosexual romance dynamics blah blah women being written poorly and shit like that but my take is that if you're attracted to men and not to women, wouldn't you rather see two men getting it on instead of having to look at some woman's boobs and pussy?
 
The weird thing about that is I can tell, or rather I have a strong suspicion, that when someone draws that I always know that person is a woman and I legitimately cannot tell why some women are so obsessed with seeing same sex shit. My theory is it’s an “abstract fetish”. Like with men you can tell when fetish porn is drawn by men because generally it’s concrete and tangible, but with women it’s more like the emotional feeling or the empathy they derive from it that gets them off is what makes them horny I guess.

Long time ago I wanted to make a thread about a series called “My Pride” but I couldn’t because the receipts and it’s failure was poorly journalized so I had nothing to make a thread with, but it’s basically a show about lesbian lionesses and in one episode they both hit it off after a couple sentences and I usually would just shrug and not really care, but the comments were always alleged lesbians and I guess other women getting all excited writing shit like “this show has two gay lionesses *inner lesbian intensifies*”. And it’s also like I don’t know why. I don’t know why some women online are so drawn to yaoi coupling or gay shipping. “This person will never be attracted to me nor does he want to fuck me, but I’m going to jack off to it anyways!” Is not a mindset that makes sense to me.

That’s why I theorize it’s abstract fetishism and I’m not a woman (and I’ll never be one lmao) and I’ll never know what that feels like. But maybe someone in this thread can help me out.
You know how dudes like Lesbian porn?

Yeah it's like that but with women instead, really not that hard champ.
 
There's some people out there who will write a whole convoluted essay about blah blah escaping heterosexual romance dynamics blah blah women being written poorly and shit like that but my take is that if you're attracted to men and not to women, wouldn't you rather see two men getting it on instead of having to look at some woman's boobs and pussy?
You know how dudes like Lesbian porn?

Yeah it's like that but with women instead, really not that hard champ.
You both say that like it isn't equally as obnoxious when a guy sits there and can't shut up about how much he loves lesbian porn.

More often than not, there's usually something inherently questionable at play going on with those types. Unless, you know, the people are actually well-adjusted and respectable functional human beings otherwise. Which isn't the case most of the time.
 
You know how dudes like Lesbian porn?

Yeah it's like that but with women instead, really not that hard champ.
Yeah, but that's because some dudes like to fetishize pussy on pussy or scissoring, that's concrete. What I was saying was I don't get why so many women on tumblr or reddit or even youtube for that matter love to draw "yas slay queen" guys in twink garb or like to pair up cartoon characters in gay ships. And there's never any sexual undertones to it either.
 
Yeah, but that's because some dudes like to fetishize pussy on pussy or scissoring, that's concrete. What I was saying was I don't get why so many women on tumblr or reddit or even youtube for that matter love to draw "yas slay queen" guys in twink garb or like to pair up cartoon characters in gay ships. And there's never any sexual undertones to it either.
Fujos are fucking scary obsessed with gay men to the point that it's a bonafide fetish. They cream themselves at the thought of two men giving eachother the fuck eyes and would finger themselves to gay ships and hentai.

I don't really understand it, it's like some wierdo mind thing where straight men are evil and inferior to them and they would sooner pretend to be gay men to fulfill their wierdo fetishes.
 
Yeah, but that's because some dudes like to fetishize pussy on pussy or scissoring, that's concrete. What I was saying was I don't get why so many women on tumblr or reddit or even youtube for that matter love to draw "yas slay queen" guys in twink garb or like to pair up cartoon characters in gay ships. And there's never any sexual undertones to it either.
Women enjoy the emotional aspects of romance as much as the fucking, so women who prefer two dudes fucking because they don't want to look at boobs and pussy would also get off to the leadup to that. Again, I don't find this so difficult to understand.
 
Women enjoy the emotional aspects of romance as much as the fucking, so women who prefer two dudes fucking because they don't want to look at boobs and pussy would also get off to the leadup to that. Again, I don't find this so difficult to understand.
Oh I totally get that. It's just the part where people go "I want to see THIS character gay" or "I want literally every cute boi in this cartoon for kids gay!" or "Oh my god I'm fucking squealing! Bubblegum princess is actually lesbian!" is the part that kind of vexes me. Dopey Cunt hit it head on with the "fujoshi" crowd. I'm going to guess lonely people seek desperate outlets.
 
Yeah, I mean, it goes as far as them being angry at straight men for not being gay and they make up these ships containing 2 straight men being super gay with each other and any platonic relationship between 2 men is instantly seen as romantic overtone rather than you know...just two dudes being bros.

It's the same phenomenon we see on the other end of the spectrum, where mentally ill people are unable to perceive a friendship between 2 females and they just instantly ship them as lesbians together despite there being absolutely no indication that their relationship is in anyway romantic. "omg rainbow crystal, that means they are in lesbians with eachother!" Give me a fucking break. I'm waiting for the cringe tranny to ask Yoshi P one of these days if Gaia and Ryne are lesbian for each other in some desperate attempt to corner him into making it cannon.

It's like the concept of platonic friendship is completely non existent and literally any interaction between them is supposed to be some confirmation of divine gay love or some dumb retarded shit like that. It loops back around to why I think people who ship Ryne and Gaia as a lesbian couple are stupid and fucking retarded. I see them as friends because there is nothing that explicitly states that they have romantic feelings for eachother, the crazies just assume they have romantic feelings for eachother and they twist a friendship between 2 girls into something gay to fit their stupid lib narrative. Why? Because they are socially inept and are unable to determine the difference between platonic interactions and romantic ones. To them context doesn't matter. You can say "i like this person, they're my friend" and they'll always perceive it as some kind of romantic confession whereas a normal and stable person would just think "oh that's nice, they're friends and they get along really well"
 
Yeah, I mean, it goes as far as them being angry at straight men for not being gay and they make up these ships containing 2 straight men being super gay with each other and any platonic relationship between 2 men is instantly seen as romantic overtone rather than you know...just two dudes being bros.

It's the same phenomenon we see on the other end of the spectrum, where mentally ill people are unable to perceive a friendship between 2 females and they just instantly ship them as lesbians together despite there being absolutely no indication that their relationship is in anyway romantic. "omg rainbow crystal, that means they are in lesbians with eachother!" Give me a fucking break. I'm waiting for the cringe tranny to ask Yoshi P one of these days if Gaia and Ryne are lesbian for each other in some desperate attempt to corner him into making it cannon.

It's like the concept of platonic friendship is completely non existent and literally any interaction between them is supposed to be some confirmation of divine gay love or some dumb retarded shit like that. It loops back around to why I think people who ship Ryne and Gaia as a lesbian couple are stupid and fucking retarded. I see them as friends because there is nothing that explicitly states that they have romantic feelings for eachother, the crazies just assume they have romantic feelings for eachother and they twist a friendship between 2 girls into something gay to fit their stupid lib narrative. Why? Because they are socially inept and are unable to determine the difference between platonic interactions and romantic ones. To them context doesn't matter. You can say "i like this person, they're my friend" and they'll always perceive it as some kind of romantic confession whereas a normal and stable person would just think "oh that's nice, they're friends and they get along really well"
I think the thing that annoys me most about the Ryne x Gaia shipping is that these are two young girls who were raised in isolation/were not able to have any friendships/forced to grow up very quickly, they've now found a companion who understands their struggles but people are making it some weird sexual thing, let them be kids and have their dumb little festival or whatever.
 
Gay men aren't sexually interested in women. Therefore, they're nonthreatening. Certain women get off to this combination, especially ones who have traumas related to men.
 
Oh I totally get that. It's just the part where people go "I want to see THIS character gay" or "I want literally every cute boi in this cartoon for kids gay!" or "Oh my god I'm fucking squealing! Bubblegum princess is actually lesbian!" is the part that kind of vexes me. Dopey Cunt hit it head on with the "fujoshi" crowd. I'm going to guess lonely people seek desperate outlets.
Come to think of it, nearly a decade ago these types were routinely mocked. Should I remind people what Death Note and Supernatural fans were like back then?
 
my life would absolutely fall apart if this one female character written by a middle-aged japanese salaryman with a belt obsession was not in lesbians with another female character written by a middle-aged japanese salaryman with a zipper obsession
 
Thinking about it a bit more, I'd rather the unfunny autistic retards than ERPers. Those people are socially disconnected from even FFXIVautists and are very fucking obnoxious, even more so than the ones who spam unfunny memes and what not. I had somebody who was a little more entrenched in FFXIV's RP "community" explain AetherSense to me and I really don't know how things even get that bad. Especially in Crystal, I tell my friends who are new to game to avoid talking to the community as much as possible, which is depressing because its a fucking MMO. I don't really bother with endgame content (yet) so I can't say anything about raid/parsetrannies but they seem like obnoxious sweats who cry about doing 20000DPS instead of 20001DPS. I'd still rather have autistic sweats than autistc degens who mod their characters to look hyperinflated blow-up dolls.

Also Black Mage Lives really DONT matter. If I die halfway through a trial or some shit, I don't get revived until the boss has 2 percent. Yoshi P needs to get off his lazy, privileged ass and give Black Mage Dualcast, Multirez, 20000 MP, and godmode for reparations n shiet, nigga.

You'd think for how whiny he is, he'd have a larger channel with more of an audience, but the guy has 3k views on this video and like 17 likes on his quitting FFXIV post that was linked in the thread. His channel really is way to fucking small to make this much of a fuss about "quitting" for like a week or so.
The community is insufferable. I've been having a lot more fun playing other games lately so I haven't been looking at the thread much. There are multiple success stories through FFXIV that are uplifting and fun to tell. I can't say that's my experience with the game. I enjoyed the story, it was pretty good. The community outside of that sours the game.

There's cross pollination between these retards and raidtrannies. Parsing mentality and the upcoming ultimate raid have poisoned the well. My group did not work out this tier because 2 players had a fit over parsing, which was in large part due to how they play and their inability to communicate without screaming. Players seem to care more about a number on a website than playing their job properly.

Context is important. Having people (especially friends) bail on you without even the courtesy of a "Fuck you," to clear harder content with another group entirely is an understandable reason to be upset. Judging by the guy's whiney and entitled attitude, it almost speaks for itself why someone would just ghost his ass though.
I've had a lot of ghosting and strange social behaviour this tier. But most players don't have an internet celebrity soapbox to cry on. And putting up with the whims of streamers/youtubers get old quick.

They seem to want preferential treatment and Cole sounds like a cunt.
 
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The worst shippers imo are Lyse/Yshtola ones. They’re all huge Stormblood stans that got the biggest bug up their asses over Runar’s existence in ShB. There are some of the most flaming hot takes I’ve seen of the dude simply because he got in the way of their gay ship. I remember the same people flipping out over Ryne and Gaia not being canon. A lot of the seething towards Ishikawa is from yuri fans mad she didn’t make their precious gay ships canon. Also I don’t remember much of SB but did Lyse and Yshtola even have any meaningful interaction with each other at all?

Speaking of ships I never saw Graha’s feelings towards the WoL as anything romantic. He just came off as someone who idolized you character with hero worship. Of course you’re going to have people who interpret anything in that context as him wanting to fuck the WoL. People are going to look for sexual undertones in any character interaction even if the writers never intended it to be that way. Same with Zenos and Emet. That said I’d rather have people horny for those characters than wanting to fuck the twins, Ryne or Gaia.
 
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