Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company

A lot of the seething towards Ishikawa is from yuri fans mad she didn’t make their precious gay ships canon. Also I don’t remember much of SB but did Lyse and Yshtola even have any meaningful interaction with each other at all?
Y'shtola saves Lyse from getting diced by Zenos, they talk in one of the written side stories where they have lunch with I think Krile (or some other female Scion member) also there, and like one or two exchanges where Lyse worries for Y'shtola's recovery after Zenos sliced her. That's about the extent of it.
 
This raid tier has actually been fairly chill over on Crystal. Almost no one runs ults on release here so there's less sperging over parses.
 
I think some of the shipping is made worse (not that this is some awful thing on the writers part) by the fact that most of the main cast doesn't really have a love interest at all. At most Urianger had Moenbryda, but she's been dead forever now. So everybody is seen by the shippers as being "available" and it's a free-for-all in shipping characters. That's why it's so awful to them when Runar shows up - what if Y'shtola isn't available to be shipped anymore????? I wonder if a few characters having a girlfriend or boyfriend or will they/won't they or hahahahahaha of course these fucking weirdos don't care they just want to pretend their favorites are fucking
 
Speaking of ships I never saw Graha’s feelings towards the WoL as anything romantic. He just came off as someone who idolized you character with hero worship.
Tbh, I know it all just comes down to personal interpretations but I feel like his insistence on wanting to travel with you and share your burdens and so forth is a deliberate choice on the writer's part to let you decide for yourself whether you want to husbando him or not. Husbando/waifu culture does help in selling merch, after all. I obviously can't know if it's really a deliberate choice, but if I were trying to get sales numbers up I'd go for it.
 
Tbh, I know it all just comes down to personal interpretations but I feel like his insistence on wanting to travel with you and share your burdens and so forth is a deliberate choice on the writer's part to let you decide for yourself whether you want to husbando him or not. Husbando/waifu culture does help in selling merch, after all. I obviously can't know if it's really a deliberate choice, but if I were trying to get sales numbers up I'd go for it.

I'd say it's deliberate given that Yoshi-P pretty much called it out in the last Live Letter and how people refer to Ysthola as 'mommy' and meeting the twins parents.

At the very least, they're very much aware of it.
 
Having done a lot of time as a healer this patch, I can confidently say - healer players are masochists. I've duty abandoned so much due to shitty,
room temp IQ behavior in expert roulette (especially from tanks) that I worry I'm going to end up on Square-Enix GM dragnet for not being a team player.

How does anyone put up with this full-time? Now I understand why the AST in my old static said she only played healer in raids, never in dungeons.
 
two of the tanks can solo heal themselves through every double pull, and three of the tanks can heal themselves fine through single pulls and bosses

how do you make the role even easier?
Take away superbolide and just give GNB another defensive. I'm serious - the amount of fucking GNBs who slam this when I put excogitation on them prepull leads me to believe that the people who play this job can't be trusted with an invuln.
 
My friends think I'm a shitty person for leaving a 4 man leveling roulette if we wipe on trash more than once or someone is afk right out the gate.

Am I meant to waste my time like that? I know it's about being a team player or whatever, but...man I'd rather just take the 30 minute timer and go and do something else than get increasingly frustrated at irl potatoes.
 
My friends think I'm a shitty person for leaving a 4 man leveling roulette if we wipe on trash more than once or someone is afk right out the gate.

Am I meant to waste my time like that? I know it's about being a team player or whatever, but...man I'd rather just take the 30 minute timer and go and do something else than get increasingly frustrated at irl potatoes.
Your friend's got way more tolerance for that kinda crap than you, doesn't make you immoral. Sometimes I'm just not going to stomach shitty play and I'd rather drop out or try to kick the source of trouble. People who AFK moments into a dungeon irritate the hell out of me.

Their inability to manage their time means they've just inflicted that on three other people at the least.
 
Your friend's got way more tolerance for that kinda crap than you, doesn't make you immoral. Sometimes I'm just not going to stomach shitty play and I'd rather drop out or try to kick the source of trouble. People who AFK moments into a dungeon irritate the hell out of me.

Their inability to manage their time means they've just inflicted that on three other people at the least.
I'm not out here dropping every party, just the horrific ones that are going to make me salty and likely to type mean words into the chat.

But yeah, maybe it's coz I'm a wagie, I just don't feel like dragging my feet through a bleeding out party after work..
 
I'm not out here dropping every party, just the horrific ones that are going to make me salty and likely to type mean words into the chat.

But yeah, maybe it's coz I'm a wagie, I just don't feel like dragging my feet through a bleeding out party after work..
The game has a 30 minutes penalty. If you don't like the group and they're disrespecting your time, you should move on.

I'm feeling the same about raiding at the moment. I have a job and other personal obligations to look after. Raiding was becoming an extra part time job that I felt I had to do. If you don't have parses, it's hard to get recruited in a group.

But I just don't feel like dealing with people screaming every tier in voice chat over parsing after work. Most of the time, the player isn't even that good and is messing up the basics. It's a classic case of the Dunning Kruger effect where bad/mediocre players think they're better than they are.

It's interesting to me how many World of Warcraft youtubers and streamers have repeatedly stated that FFXIV doesn't "waste your time", but you will find no shortage of ill-mannered people looking to waste your time in the game.
 
It's interesting to me how many World of Warcraft youtubers and streamers have repeatedly stated that FFXIV doesn't "waste your time", but you will find no shortage of ill-mannered people looking to waste your time in the game.
The game by design doesn't intend to waste your time, beyond what a video game normally does anyway, but community by itself is not a fully controllable part of the design process. Frankly compared to most MMOs, FFXIV (unless you truly don't give a shit about the plot) doesn't waste your time even close to the extent most MMOs do. I've played a good chunk of MMOs, and FFXIV by its design doesn't waste my time, but boy does the community in anything beyond the MSQ difficulty make up for that design decision. At least in NA/EU, I know JP has its shit more together but that is probably a cultural thing.

Your feelings regarding your static and the general community, echo my own in a lot of ways and is why I've just gone full casual "plot watcher" at this point and dropped the idea of actual raiding even if I like that content. I really want to like this game for all it has, but I just don't have the patience to baby sit people.
 
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I never done raids while they were current. Is doing casual raiding difficult in terms of finding people?
Finding people? No. Finding people who can consistently clear? Yes.

It also doesn't help that PF culture is kinda dying because everyone coming from WoW is used to raiding in guilds and so they're all flocking to statics (and pulling a lot of PF players with them). Which isn't a bad thing per se, it just means the raiding culture is changing.
 
Finding people? No. Finding people who can consistently clear? Yes.

It also doesn't help that PF culture is kinda dying because everyone coming from WoW is used to raiding in guilds and so they're all flocking to statics (and pulling a lot of PF players with them). Which isn't a bad thing per se, it just means the raiding culture is changing.
I ended up sticking with FF because of the ease of finding non committal PUG groups, so I hope they don't kill it completely.
 
Committal to a semi-regular schedule isn't the worst thing, provided you can find people who aren't insufferable. It's that last part which is the real challenge, and why I'm on a hiatus. I'd like to play a bit more here and there, but without a solid group of people, burnout's inevitable.

And like, I know the earlier parts of this very thread are talking about the implausibility of organizing antisocial kiwis prone to lobbing out racial slurs in this game, but that's not really what I mean by "aren't insufferable." I'll take the milquetoast soccer-mom and magic-underwears mormon preacher a million times over the average player - who is about seven different shades of learned-helplessness-meets-genuine-incompetence dressed up in a collective sense of humor only a reddit-gold-thirsting heccin chonkers pupperino mother could love, whose only other character traits seem to be your pick of a comically disgusting fetish, a dogmatic refusal to take their antipsychotics, or both.
 
I never done raids while they were current. Is doing casual raiding difficult in terms of finding people?
Finding people isn't difficult. Finding people in time slots that are convenient for you is what's difficult. I find that there's not enough population to support various time frames, despite what people might say about the game's popularity.
Finding people? No. Finding people who can consistently clear? Yes.

It also doesn't help that PF culture is kinda dying because everyone coming from WoW is used to raiding in guilds and so they're all flocking to statics (and pulling a lot of PF players with them). Which isn't a bad thing per se, it just means the raiding culture is changing.
FFXIV has always been this way. Back in Stormblood, you would be told by the raiding community to find a static to "avoid the PF shitters". Due to the nature of the 2-chest lockout, people who clear with their static don't tend to help in Party Finder.

Party finder groups are okay for extreme trials and maybe the first and second savage bosses. It's when you get to the latter floors that require more mechanical complexity that it becomes a problem.
Committal to a semi-regular schedule isn't the worst thing, provided you can find people who aren't insufferable. It's that last part which is the real challenge, and why I'm on a hiatus. I'd like to play a bit more here and there, but without a solid group of people, burnout's inevitable.

And like, I know the earlier parts of this very thread are talking about the implausibility of organizing antisocial kiwis prone to lobbing out racial slurs in this game, but that's not really what I mean by "aren't insufferable." I'll take the milquetoast soccer-mom and magic-underwears mormon preacher a million times over the average player - who is about seven different shades of learned-helplessness-meets-genuine-incompetence dressed up in a collective sense of humor only a reddit-gold-thirsting heccin chonkers pupperino mother could love, whose only other character traits seem to be your pick of a comically disgusting fetish, a dogmatic refusal to take their antipsychotics, or both.
The schedule gets old if the group isn't doing well. It feels more like an interruption and a chore than something fun that you're doing. My experience is you end up with a group that has various expectations. That doesn't tend to work out well because FFXIV players by and large haven't learned how to behave like functioning adults. Screaming at other people because you can't parse or because you're not happy with the group's progression is childish.
 
The schedule gets old if the group isn't doing well. It feels more like an interruption and a chore than something fun that you're doing. My experience is you end up with a group that has various expectations. That doesn't tend to work out well because FFXIV players by and large haven't learned how to behave like functioning adults. Screaming at other people because you can't parse or because you're not happy with the group's progression is childish.
This is probably the biggest problem. That and the drama. Even an 8 man raid team has enough people for cliques to form and you'll find yourself out on your ass quickly if you dare to bring up the consistently bad performance of the shitter grey parsing tank that the group leader insists on keeping in the group.

Or if you tell the group to stop talking about politics and reddit memes and focus on the raid.

Or if you misgender the troon healer one too many times.

Or if you insist on only raiding during the time slots set aside for raiding and not going hours over because the leader insists "WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO CLEAR THIS WEEK JUST TWO MORE HOURS BRO OKAY?"
 
Even an 8 man raid team has enough people for cliques to form and you'll find yourself out on your ass quickly if you dare to bring up consistently bad performance of the shitter grey parsing tank that the group leader insists on keeping in the group.
Even better when it's a shit DPS who isn't even out-parsing the Tanks but wants to complain about everyone else. And everyone else is too scared of conflict to tell him to fuck off.
 
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