Euphoric Christian Fatigue Thread

[not william stenchever]

I wonder if it's from people not thinking about what their foundational values are. Like what are the bedrock beliefs that you have faith in and fundamentally can't be shaken out of you? Do people not think about shit like this? I guess the ones OP is describing don't.

A lot of people never take that journey to develop concrete principles based on real world experience and studying how people and the world tick. Foundational principles must be developed from within to remain consistent. People who externalize all of this work to the eponymous society will change their tune based on the social winds and won't even reflect on why they changed their flag.

 

[The Tall Man]

That runs counter to "be fruitful and multiply" though. I mean, you could argue this is directed specifically at Jews, as I assume you would, but I think the general reading is that this applies to all mankind.

The OT applies to all mankind? Come on, that is dishonest.
It is literally the history, the laws, the fights of the Jews and all other nations are enemies in it.

And again this is 'pick and choose Christianity'. Jesus brought new rules, the new covenant and fulfilled prophecy, this is a package deal.
Unless you are some kind of Anglo-Israelite or something like that. Then sure you can claim they are all fake Jews and you are the real one.

 

[The man The only man]

Soft racism is anti-Christian.
You are not supposed to idolize your race or family.

Luke 14:26
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple." -Jesus Christ

You are supposed to cast of the shackles of family and tribe, that is why Justin Martyr talks approvingly about a young Christian in Alexandria castrating himself publicly.

Matthew 19:12
“For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
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Self-castration is the ultimate renunciation of family, legacy, and bloodline, a total break with the fallen things of this earth that so easily pull the soul away from the Kingdom of Heaven.

Family, legacy and race are things a true Christian is supposed to avoid and even oppose.
A true Christian dedicates himself to the kingdom of heaven and isn't shackled to earthly things.

I don't know if you are a rare genuine Gnostic (=heretic) or just trying to bait people into giving you reactions. You are also starting with several premises that makes it impossible to fully refute your points, which results in a chain of posts that are barely relevant to the actual topic of thread (as can be seen in this thread).

 

[Slap47]

Based Trad-Christians and euphoric atheists often put Islam on a pedestal. Very curious.

 

[Soycast II]

I don't know if you are a rare genuine Gnostic (=heretic) or just trying to bait people into giving you reactions. You are also starting with several premises that makes it impossible to fully refute your points, which results in a chain of posts that are barely relevant to the actual topic of thread (as can be seen in this thread).

He’s said before that he’s pagan or an atheist/agnostic. Can’t remember which.

Based Trad-Christians and euphoric atheists often put Islam on a pedestal. Very curious.

Remember back during the lockdowns when the same “based trads” were becoming Muslim? Look at people who followed Andrew Tate.

 

[Tablet County]

A lot of people never take that journey to develop concrete principles based on real world experience and studying how people and the world tick. Foundational principles must be developed from within to remain consistent. People who externalize all of this work to the eponymous society will change their tune based on the social winds and won't even reflect on why they changed their flag.

That's a thing I think a lot of the Euphoric Christians fuck up at, and I think literal interpretation of the bible is partly to blame. Because, in a way, a lot of Christianity is just about self-improvement. In the literal sense, in the word of the scripture, Christian improvement is about letting God into your heart to make you a better person. Practically speaking, becoming "Christlike" is making the conscious decision to not seek out unnecessary conflict, to be selfless but not a complete doormat, and to spread a sort of wholesome joie de vivre in your community.

I think these sorts take the literal stance and assume just because they've been "given a new heart" that they're incorruptible, infallible, and better than everyone. It's part of why I simp for Buddhism so much because it's directly about making the conscious effort to improve yourself as opposed to letting Prince Gautama into your soul to see what the damage is like some kind of spiritual plumber.

The OT applies to all mankind? Come on, that is dishonest.
It is literally the history, the laws, the fights of the Jews and all other nations are enemies in it.

And again this is 'pick and choose Christianity'. Jesus brought new rules, the new covenant and fulfilled prophecy, this is a package deal.
Unless you are some kind of Anglo-Israelite or something like that. Then sure you can claim they are all fake Jews and you are the real one.

One of the benefits of being an atheist is that I do get to pick and choose. I could say "I like x about Islam" and someone could come along and say "yeah but Islam also believes in y" and I don't have to perform mental gymnastics, create a new sect, or behead somebody to cope with it.

You might say that this is a morally bankrupt sort of way to live, and I think that would be true if I wasn't able to govern myself. Religion, as I see it, is a lot like the law; it's useless to people who are good and can self-govern and is crucial for people who, as @not william stenchever said, export their beliefs to tribe or society.

I don't know if you are a rare genuine Gnostic (=heretic) or just trying to bait people into giving you reactions. You are also starting with several premises that makes it impossible to fully refute your points, which results in a chain of posts that are barely relevant to the actual topic of thread (as can be seen in this thread).

Based on what I've read of @The Tall Man he more or less believes what Hitler did minus the nordic mysticism.

 

[The Tall Man]

He’s said before that he’s pagan or an atheist/agnostic. Can’t remember which.

A racist.

You are also starting with several premises that makes it impossible to fully refute your points, which results in a chain of posts that are barely relevant to the actual topic of thread (as can be seen in this thread).

The premise is very simple, the bible itself shows that being a blood and soil guy is not compatible with Christianity.
Fighting for your people or nation is fighting for something earthly and things like reverence for eunuchs and those who let go of all earthly things, including family obviously, show that you should not fight for these things at all.
These E-crusaders are less Christian than United Church of Christ fellas.

I am coming from this not as a Christian, but a humble racist. I don't want e-crusaders to pretend to be on my side.

 

[Soycast II]

I am coming from this not as a Christian, but a humble racist. I don't want e-crusaders to pretend to be on my side.

Honesty is the best policy at least. I do still think your knowledge about Christianity is iffy at best though.

 

[Dogmeat General]

I’ve said it for many years now: the only thing worse than an atheist in a fedora is a Christian in a fedora. And I say that as a Christian in a fedora.

 

[Nikon_Camera]

I haven't seen any christian abusing their genitals to futanary porn and harras every person on the internet who has independent opinion.

 

[The Wise Shaman]

I think one of the main reasons why this phenomenon came to be is because these people want to rebel against the unauthentic modern culture, and they can't turn to anything else; they lack a sense of heritage.

In the old world, a person knows his language and culture have been there for thousands of years and his/her ancestors have been passing it down since then; it's authentic.

In the new world, many people are descendants of immigrants coming from all across the world; they have a mixed lineage. The cultures there are much newer, and his/her ancestors just adopted local customs. A new world (non-native) culture doesn't have the same legitimacy as an old world culture does.

In the US, you also have to deal with the fact that there are a lot of Protestant denominations, all of them being relatively new.

This is why they turn to Catholic and Orthodox Christianity, as they are old churches built upon over two thousand years of tradition; they're authentic and not too alien for them.

The reason why these people don't seem to be authentic about their beliefs, ironically, is because they are not looking for authenticity; they just want to rebel against the unauthentic dominant culture. Their motivation is contrarianism. They don't need to be honest about their beliefs as long as they're making people they dislike upset.

Euphoric atheists just wanted to rebel against their bible-thumping parents; atheism was just the tool. Meanwhile, these euphoric Christians also want to rebel, but against gay liberals instead, and these old Christian churches are the right tools in that case. Same logic.

 

[Tablet County]

I think one of the main reasons why this phenomenon came to be is because these people want to rebel against the unauthentic modern culture, and they can't turn to anything else; they lack a sense of heritage.

In the old world, a person knows his language and culture have been there for thousands of years and his/her ancestors have been passing it down since then; it's authentic.

In the new world, many people are descendants of immigrants coming from all across the world; they have a mixed lineage. The cultures there are much newer, and his/her ancestors just adopted local customs. A new world (non-native) culture doesn't have the same legitimacy as an old world culture does.

In the US, you also have to deal with the fact that there are a lot of Protestant denominations, all of them being relatively new.

This is why they turn to Catholic and Orthodox Christianity, as they are old churches built upon over two thousand years of tradition; they're authentic and not too alien for them.

The reason why these people don't seem to be authentic about their beliefs, ironically, is because they are not looking for authenticity; they just want to rebel against the unauthentic dominant culture. Their motivation is contrarianism. They don't need to be honest about their beliefs as long as they're making people they dislike upset.

Euphoric atheists just wanted to rebel against their bible-thumping parents; atheism was just the tool. Meanwhile, these euphoric Christians also want to rebel, but against gay liberals instead, and these old Christian churches are the right tools in that case. Same logic.

*inauthentic

I'm sorry but you triggered my autism.

I haven't seen any christian abusing their genitals to futanary porn and harras every person on the internet who has independent opinion.

I haven't seen a lot of the former but I don't know you could miss seeing the latter.

 

[ZeCommissar]

A lot of people never take that journey to develop concrete principles based on real world experience and studying how people and the world tick. Foundational principles must be developed from within to remain consistent. People who externalize all of this work to the eponymous society will change their tune based on the social winds and won't even reflect on why they changed their flag.

Most people do not commonly sit there and think about this shit. If they do, its for a temporary moment.

Now on one hand I can't blame most people, even in the West where we have more time to think about these things. Most people are just trying to barely make ends meet with less than $2000 in their bank account hoping they can pay their bills and feed their kids day by day, and aren't going to sit there contemplating their 'core values'. So instead they get these 'values' from their peers like humans have done for millennia.

Its very simple really, you just need the majority opinion. You don't actually need to be right.

 

[daffodils]

When things get a little too euphoric

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[Do Not Touch Me Pls]

Christianity is the ultimate psyop and we are fighting a LOSING battle, not a winning one.

The current sad state of the Internet is all the proof you need.

 

[PutridusVictus]

Most people believe nothing and live for the ego and pleasure, the lukewarm, the midwit, the masses want to be part of any rebellious cause for it lessens their boring lifes and fills the void modern world has carved, but honestly I do prefer them to be puritanical christian larpers than whatever the hell has come after.

 

[harbringer883]

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[AMHOLIO]

Most people believe nothing and live for the ego and pleasure, the lukewarm, the midwit, the masses want to be part of any rebellious cause for it lessens their boring lifes and fills the void modern world has carved

This is not directed at you (as I agree with you), but I keep hearing this sentiment and wonder if the people who say it do not group themselves in the midwit category. It's mean to say, but I have a feeling some Kiwis are rebelious midwits themselves, and others aren't playing with a full deck. Or even half of one. But they're smart enough to know how to repeat certain ideas so it's easy for them to accuse others.

 

[PutridusVictus]

This is not directed at you (as I agree with you), but I keep hearing this sentiment and wonder if the people who say it do not group themselves in the midwit category. It's mean to say, but I have a feeling some Kiwis are rebelious midwits themselves, and others aren't playing with a full deck. Or even half of one. But they're smart enough to know how to repeat certain ideas so it's easy for them to accuse others.

Oh I know I am, but being part of the loud crowds has brought me nothing but pain, it's difficult not to give in to social pressure when you're young dumb and weak.

 

[Wiggerlicious]

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