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at least the euphoric atheists seem to believe in their religion. I'm certain not a single christian larper has ever opened the bible. also I don't get why so many are larping as catholics, might as well be larping as the antichrist.
They are found mostly on Twitter, however despite the apparent hatered of groyper-christian faggotry here Kiwifarms is not free from such people. Every day I see threads full of these retards, which is sad considering there seem to be some genuine followers of Christ here. I won't name any names, but I'm sure everyone can point to some.
I am among the highlighted bit, so I'll make this post.
These people you are talking about are scummy, grifting hypocrites who Jesus chased out of the temple with a whip. They are the same type of people who Jesus will tell on Judgment Day that He never knew them. American Christianity and Christianity in the West is largely in pitiful condition, and that's not talking about the megachurch scams or the woke vomit in Protestant denominations. The "based and trad culture warrior" is someone using Christ as a pawn for the sake of political brownie points. If you're a "TradCath", then you're not Christian to begin with given you will support whatever the pope does and regardless, you pray to lifeless graven images already.
And to add insult to injury, many of these people given their speech and actions behave in an unchristlike way, and make real believers, the Bible, and Jesus Christ look terrible given other theological demographic groups largely view all Christians as a monolith. The New Testament itself has plenty of verses speaking out against fake Christians (or "false bretheren") who act like they have never heard about Jesus before, given their profane speech and habits. The thing is, Jesus Himself is omnipresent and sees who they are behind the anonymous username and VPN. He knows who all the true sheep are and who the goats playing pretend are.
They also lock hands with people who LARP as Christian as well, but those content creators are clearly grifters, too or are right wing atheists who hate Jesus and His followers given their tweets and content. Why would I or any thinking person look at the behaviors and speech of the "Dissident right" or Trad West account types and take anything your digital lynch mob says seriously? Why would any Christian who views the world properly through a scriptural lens instead of a temporal grifty political lens want to willingly associate with the ZoomerHistorians and Devon Stacks of the world when people who claim to be "Christians" willingly associate with, promote, and produce content with people like them?
My religion and my Lord and Savior are not a cudgel for you to hawk merch or (in more ways than one) promote deranged conspiracies and identity politics. These people I am certain are why the opposition thinks "white Christian nationalists" are a real threat rather than a silly, made-up term concocted by left wingers who have made politics into their new religion to demonize bogeymen. People on the right who actually describe themselves as such are grifters, too. Hypocrites don't like being held to their own standards, given the reviling from "Christians" you get when you speak out against things they give a pass or outright embrace. Either way, you don't go to church to cry about Hamites.
Christ is risen! Regardless of what dumb culture warrior slap fight is going on, I will continue to praise the risen Christ.
There are people on the forum exactly like this, especially the Christian Identity types who use Christianity as a vehicle to spout drivela bout hating browns. Every single one of Jesus' Apostles were Semites or Hellenized Semites, not to mention the man Himself was a direct descendant of David.
I have been a euphoric atheist, I even owned a few fancy hats and would tip them to people without a hint of irony. The only blessing was that as a teenager I wasn't interested in going onto reddit or social media and embarrassing myself further.
I've brought this up before, but the reason I fell out with the enlightened rationalwiki atheist faggots is that they revealed themselves to be just as hidebound, dogmatic and contemptuous as the people they claimed to oppose. As I grew older I realized some dipshit using a banana that was selectively bred by humans as proof of intelligent design and hysterical boomers freaking out about the mention of magic in a shitty childrens fantasy book series were not good representatives of Christendom.
But in these new Christians I see the same self-enlightened faggotry that plagued the fedoralords. In some ways it's even worse, because at least people at rationalwiki thought critical thinking was a good thing even if they didn't practice it. These modern Pharisees treat their own nagging thoughts as if they were Satan on their shoulder whispering in their ear. They talk to smug (((The Science))) cultists about how most scientific achievements were made by Christians but don't respect the intellect that built the very foundation they stand upon, or that many of the arguments used against them often began as internal criticisms from the faithful. They focus on Christ as a wrathful deity, a War God, who came not to bring peace but bearing a sword and drove the money lenders from the temple in righteous fury, and from this assume that being Christlike means being a violent retard. They see that Christ showed greater favor to those who believed without seeing and interpret that as needing to believe thoughtlessly and with euphoric zeal.
I'm still an atheist and I likely always will be; it's simply in who I am. If there are Calvinists among you, consider me not among the elect. But even if I don't jive with the supernatural elements and fundamentally disagree that goodness is alien to the human animal and only gained from an external source through communion, I've developed a healthy respect for the Christian religion and the practical lessons it teaches, as well as the communal spirit it engenders. I respect that the foundation of Western Culture which I love was built by Christians. And it is because of this love of my culture that even as the kind of person the Bible identifies as soulless and without scruples, it boils my fucking blood when I see these dribbling neanderthal larpers calling themselves the REAL Christians.
Christians worshipping Iran and Dubai is a weirdly disturbing trend I have seen. The only things stopping them from becoming Muslims is the Rome aesthetic and Muhammad being a pedophile.
There are people on the forum exactly like this, especially the Christian Identity types who use Christianity as a vehicle to spout drivela bout hating browns. Every single one of Jesus' Apostles were Semites or Hellenized Semites, not to mention the man Himself was a direct descendant of David.
Being a Christian means loving the stranger and loving the sinner. To love your enemy and to forgive the ones who wrong you. Don't idolize your own family or race; that means your Christian duties come before your family.
These e-crusaders have a delusion of Christianity being a racial and nationalistic warrior religion. A Christian is supposed to bring Christianity to the rest of the world and create one big racially diverse Christian global community. The only righteous thing a Christian can fight for is to spread Christianity and to fulfill prophecy, not to defend his nation or people or family. The children of Christ are all equal, and the only people who kind of stand above the rest are the Jewish people, because they are the apple of Yahweh's eye and the race of prophets who can speak for god.
And it's laughable when they say the churches, the pope, and the patriarchs are corrupt. No, you fucking retard, you would be excommunicated if they knew you were a racist and nationalist-type guy and they would just follow the book doing that.
If anyone remembers the mutual antagonism between "moral" authorities (often intertwined with schools) & children, popular culture, and the desires of the average person that occurred in the last third or so of the 20th century and the very first years of the 21st, that is exactly what I have been talking about. The ridiculous desire of the "authorities" to walk according to flesh and force unnecessarily strict rules, religious or otherwise, upon the youth have left them rootless and spiritually dead. An example would be how they treated any expression of normal, human heterosexuality...
This book is seriously eye opening and I IMPLORE all of you guys to read it. The irreparable damage the public school system has done to nearly every child, and therefore adult in the United States of America, and in turn our society, has been ignored for far too long. Unlike most other institutions, the school system is NEVER publicly questioned because basically every human being in our country has been forced to eat its boot at gunpoint. The most saddening part is that you cannot escape the effects of this system, as even if you homeschool your children it is almost certain they will...
now aside from that a lot of Christians haven't paid enough attention to the intricacies in Genesis. I don't mean creationism, I mean walk up to the average Christian and ask them about the tree of life versus the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They probably won't know what you're talking about and if they do they probably won't know what it means. God created humanity and saw that it was good, so there's no reason to be out here doing what Paul wrote against: trying to sanctify fallen flesh through effectively human religious rules, created out of knowledge of good and evil. This doesn't mean we should automatically throw away rules though; as an example it's known how homosexuality often reproduces through gays grooming children. To stop that process obviously homosexuality must be stopped and forgotten about, as the knowledge of good and evil must also be forgotten. After reading the Bible from an objective, almost academic view with preconceptions thrown out it begins to become decently clear how corrupted mainstream Christianity has become.
My issue with the chuddification of Twitter is how unfunny people are. Everyone and their dog proclaims "George Floyd lel", or "blacks lel", or "Hitler lel" without actually being creative. Its no different from middle schoolers picking up their favorite quotes from leafy or idubbz and impulsively yelling them out in class. Its uncreative, boring, its a fad thatll die out instead of being genuine humour.
I've been wanting to do an effortpost on this for quite a while, and this post exactly touches on what I wanna talk about. @Neko GF used a term that I think perfectly describes what the phenomenon that I want to describe, "Chud Fatigue".
Before the pendulum shift that occurred circa 2022-2024, those who were around far-right circles or more generally imageboards, were likely committed to certain ideals like freeze peach and weren't grifters, since you were working in opposition to the dominant forces of society with very little visible reward, I would dare say that outside of the ethno-nationalism and violent rhetoric, the core of the ideology was actually closer to paleolibertarianism than anything else as these movements picked up steam after 2008 and 2012 with the Tea Party Movement and the dissatisfaction with how anemic it was. There wasn't a grift to be had unless you had an FBI handler like Christopher Cantwell or Joshua Sutter.
When Trump was elected in 2016 those who were a part of the movement felt it was a massive vindication of these ideals, you can check the /pol/ thread archives and the edits made around the time and really see the enthusiasm and sense of utter triumph. The left was still the dominant political force around this time, but it was slowly ground. Combined with the release of Hearts of Iron 4, the relatively small "esoteric" political autists began to grow in autism and size as the amount of mods for the game grew, indirectly influencing other communities.
Covid was a sledgehammer to many people's psyches, and it was situated at an awful time too. Many people became terminally online at that time due to spending all their days indoors, and The New Order: Last Days of Europe came out in 2021. Ironically, it was intended as a deradicalization tool by a former Stormfront user-turned Vaushite who's now a tranny, and had the exact opposite effect as it was popularized a lot of the autism you see now, Black Suns, Oskar Dirlewanger, Kolovrats, generally "estoeric" stuff like that. This introduces "schizoism" to the HOI4 community, where each new mod tries to out-do TNO in schizoism, which influences the autists, who gravitate towards the most schizo mods for being new and fresh, which introduces more autistic elements into the political well.
Outside of Discord, there really was no place for these people to gather, much less somewhere open. Now around 2023, Soyjak Party after undergoing the Soypocalypse experiences a shift in site culture under former-site admin Froot and his triumvirate of DOLL and Angeleno. Though there certainly was a Wignat bent to the Sharty, it was the old 4chan kind and was intended more to provoke, and it only became prominent under the previous admin Kuz's tenure from 2022-2023. It was also around this time that Soyjak Party hit critical mass as Twitter users began to radicalize to the right because of Elon loosening ToS and were exposed to the site's culture. The site gets flooded with all these Twitter tourists with little to no knowledge of the site's culture who through sheer numbers, eventually manage to divert it away from "bald cartoon men with glasses" to "le ebin chud nazi doxxxxxxxxxxxxxxing forum".
Now as the Sharty grows in size, so does its influence on Internet and internet cultures, leading to every last one of these "autists" in these hyper political circles to become aware of it, further diluting the site's culture, and the Foodist/764 communities which were already active way before on the Sharty suddenly have massive reach as the amount of users on the site grows. Trump's election in 2024 really sealed the deal for all of this, just the same as in 2016 it was seen a huge victory for the right and solidified the social shift we are in right now.
Now we're in the present day, where autism is unbound, you can say nigger on Instagram and Twitter, and the Avant-Garde cultural movements of the 2010s have won out. If anything, the movement has been co-opted by the people in power who, upon seeing it was succeeding, calibrated their rhetoric so as to appeal to the movement. You can find literal mass shooter edits on TikTok and Instagram now, and 764 and all these extortion networks show no sign of stopping, so I have to ask:
Is this what you thought your victory would look like?
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This isn't as much of an effortpost as I would've liked, and I don't think I exactly put my ideas into words clearly, but perhaps I'll return to it another day.
Truth is, people like this are cut from the same cloth. The euphoric atheists of the past likely had rebelious euphoric Christian children, like how a lot of euphoric atheists had euphoric Christian parents. Others are trend hoppers or just need structure in their lives, and religion is their current structure, so they go hard.
Currently, a lot of people have lived through more of the euphoric atheist redditor phase of culture so they don't have the annoyance of the same culture power the current wave of euphoric christbros has yet to achieve, if they ever do. So you'll get the euphoric atheist vote first since they were and are still more prominent. I remember some of the freakouts hard Christians had in the past, so I'm voting both because it's not the basic ideologies themselves that are annoying... it's the people behind them building their personalities and crusades around them.
If anyone remembers the mutual antagonism between "moral" authorities (often intertwined with schools) & children, popular culture, and the desires of the average person that occurred in the last third or so of the 20th century and the very first years of the 21st, that is exactly what I have been talking about. The ridiculous desire of the "authorities" to walk according to flesh and force unnecessarily strict rules, religious or otherwise, upon the youth have left them rootless and spiritually dead. An example would be how they treated any expression of normal, human heterosexuality...
This book is seriously eye opening and I IMPLORE all of you guys to read it. The irreparable damage the public school system has done to nearly every child, and therefore adult in the United States of America, and in turn our society, has been ignored for far too long. Unlike most other institutions, the school system is NEVER publicly questioned because basically every human being in our country has been forced to eat its boot at gunpoint. The most saddening part is that you cannot escape the effects of this system, as even if you homeschool your children it is almost certain they will...
now aside from that a lot of Christians haven't paid enough attention to the intricacies in Genesis. I don't mean creationism, I mean walk up to the average Christian and ask them about the tree of life versus the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They probably won't know what you're talking about and if they do they probably won't know what it means. God created humanity and saw that it was good, so there's no reason to be out here doing what Paul wrote against: trying to sanctify fallen flesh through effectively human religious rules, created out of knowledge of good and evil. This doesn't mean we should automatically throw away rules though; as an example it's known how homosexuality often reproduces through gays grooming children. To stop that process obviously homosexuality must be stopped and forgotten about, as the knowledge of good and evil must also be forgotten. After reading the Bible from an objective, almost academic view with preconceptions thrown out it begins to become decently clear how corrupted mainstream Christianity has become.
They're no different from the halfwits who call themselves Norse Pagans because Varg Vikernes is their e-daddy.
If you're wondering if the subject of OP applies to you, ask yourself: Do you believe Christianity is true? That Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life? or are you merely a "cultural Christian" who sees it as a vehicle for your agenda?
Basically you said that you disagree with how boomer style Christianity portrays humanity and the world as baseline evil. Hence all the facades of asceticism they put up. My posts there are (partially schizo) rebuttals against that kind of thought, as they often tried to bring in a near Gnostic duality between God and his creation (humanity, sexuality, food, the world, etc.) Basically they became neo puritan fun police. When you go against basic human nature like this, with this false duality, you are setting the stage for people to go "fuck it im going to hell anyways might as well go all out evil" and swing to the other direction (pride flags on presbyterian churches). All this is related to the knowledge of good and evil. Concepts like those are left out of popular Christianity which leads those without understanding to go on paths that ultimately resemble other religions (hence the Gnosticism comparisons)
Christians worshipping Iran and Dubai is a weirdly disturbing trend I have seen. The only things stopping them from becoming Muslims is the Rome aesthetic and Muhammad being a pedophile.
It’s the same contrarian logic that SJWs/wokeism is based on: “I believe my opponents support X, therefore I support the opposite of X.”
The ironic part is that it results in both of them defending Muslims/Islam, because if either group was truly genuine in their beliefs, they’d both end up being against Islam.
It’s the same contrarian logic that SJWs/wokeism is based on: “I believe my opponents support X, therefore I support the opposite of X.”
The ironic part is that it results in both of them defending Muslims/Islam, because if either group was truly genuine in their beliefs, they’d both end up being against Islam.
It's a consistently worrying pattern that's been observed with zoomer alt-fash types for years now (even predating the rise of alt-fash movements to the mainstream) to end up committing suicide or going out via mass violence. Say what you want about trannies, I find their grooming tactics just as repugnant, but I think urging someone to self mutilate and succumb to debauched hedonistic degeneracy (while evil) is less of an existential threat than urging kids into this uber nihilistic mindset that almost always leads to fatality. Maybe I'm a bleeding heart, I dunno, but it made my heart ache to see a relatively wholesome experience tainted with this suicidal, nihilistic baggage.
Maybe I'm a bleeding heart, I dunno, but it made my heart ache to see a relatively wholesome experience tainted with this suicidal, nihilistic baggage.
That just means you're still human. Hold onto that. I'll stay a naive bleeding heart faggot whose kindness is taken advantage of my whole life if it means I get to keep my soul.
I mean, when these alt right zoomers are constantly hearing about how bad every immigrant group is that live around them, there's no wonder why they start going crazy. When you have Mexican neighbors around you and all you hear online from fucks like American Krogan, or what have you, is that Mexicans are demonic beings, then no wonder the neurotic types start blasting.
People who act like this refuse to make Christ both their Lord AND their Savior. They worship themselves and justify themselves. They don't do the work of obedience that justifies them through God's forgiveness.
I disagree, I think you should in fact worship yourself, as Anton Lavey (PBUH) taught us. These people might not be genuine Christians but their ideology does stem from the same issues as the real deal's, as the actual problem of zealous Christians is their outsorcing of character development to some outside force. First the convert is convinced that the "default" human nature is pathetic and degenerate, not worthy of any respect, then he is offered the solution by "surrendering oneself to Christ" which for an average internet trad means just aligning oneself with the "correct" social circle, which leads to an absurd combination of self-hate and utter narcissism, check out their public masturbation confessions on twitter, or how utterly spiteful they are to a random tranny on twitter, despite claiming to care even for the deformed unborn fetuses. This is why their arguments against atheism never come from the assumption that Christianity itself is good, but from the assumption that without Christianity people are pathetic, degenerate, aimless, weak etc.
TLDR they hate themselves and the human race, but being saved by Christ exempts them from their misantropy and let's them project their own flaws onto the unbelievers.
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