Drug dealers have higher moral grounds than drug consumers - +eugenics

[Perfect Day]

Except there are many people who get horny by doing drugs like meth/coke and fuck afterwards. Women who become prostitutes due to addiction and don't use condoms pop out babies as well. Your eugenic argument doesn't hold.

In my experience the children of alcoholics and drugs users either become drug addicts or alcoholic themselves (because they replicate the behavior - sadly the majority of cases) or they built themselves against the parental model and become the most anti drugs / anti alcohol people imaginable. I had a friend who was raised by a divorced alcoholic mother + abusive stepdad and he was utterly repulsed by it. I don't think he ever had a drink and became an engineer. Very hard working and moral guy. He is married now. Meanwhile his mother still lives in abject conditions and remains completely helpless.
I think this counts as a selection mechanism even if they have lots of babies, some of those will continue the cycle and exit the social norm and some (a minority) will develop correct attitudes and behavior and strengthen the social body they are a part of

 

[JohnnyG]

Drug dealers have higher moral grounds than drug consumers

The average drug user may ruin his own life, hurt several family members in the process, and maybe unrelated people depending on his level of degeneracy/criminality.

The average drug dealer helps ruin the lives of dozens to hundreds, plus the knock-on effect of their families, neighbors, and other victims. So as with prostitutes, fencers of stolen goods, and other vice-concentrators, it makes sense to pursue the source much more harshly (which is why GloboHomo "harm reduction" types advocate the opposite).

Alcohol is a drug

Sure, and we can debate the aggregate of its negative effects vs. hard drugs. Or acknowledge that its use is highly nonlinear, with most people having the occasional weekend beer, a few having beers after work, and a tiny number drowning themselves in it. Heroin and fent don't work his way.

 

[oldTireWater]

This is something a crying bald man with glasses would say.

I assure you I do not wear glasses.

I agree with you though I'm a pink triangle, where does that put me?

In a Kapo's uniform.

 

[Beelzebub's Lawyer]

From my experience some drug dealers will refuse to sell heroin/fent to little kids.

Oh wow, how noble of them, they won't sell shit to kids that will most likely kill them after 1 dose.

 

[Racist Parrot]

Still, non-consuming dealer is less degenerate than consumers.

You sound like someone trying to feel better about being a dealer or a junkie.

 

[Perfect Day]

The average drug user may ruin his own life, hurt several family members in the process, and maybe unrelated people depending on his level of degeneracy/criminality.

The average drug dealer helps ruin the lives of dozens to hundreds, plus the knock-on effect of their families, neighbors, and other victims. So as with prostitutes, fencers of stolen goods, and other vice-concentrators, it makes sense to pursue the source much more harshly (which is why GloboHomo "harm reduction" types advocate the opposite).

In practice the correct course of action is to apply draconian punishments to both users and the dealers, this is what every Asian country which has gotten rid of drugs has done. This is because you cannot reason with drugs, you deal with drug users the same way you deal with psychopaths.

The underlying debate is whether the offer creates the demand or the demand creates the offer. I don't think we can say for sure which one is correct. Sure, people importing cannabis from Mexico in the 60's created a demand for cannabis but you could argue they started importing because the tendency to consume drugs was already there, it's a chicken and egg situation imo.

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

If i was ever nice to you, I take it all back. Die.

 

[Boldizar]

You sound like someone trying to feel better about being a dealer or a junkie.

trying to feel better about being a junkie.

Zero reading comprehension. Send this negro to the gas chamber NOW!

In practice the correct course of action is to apply draconian punishments to both users and the dealers, this is what every Asian country which has gotten rid of drugs has done. This is because you cannot reason with drugs, you deal with drug users the same way you deal with psychopaths.

The underlying debate is whether the offer creates the demand or the demand creates the offer. I don't think we can say for sure which one is correct. Sure, people importing cannabis from Mexico in the 60's created a demand for cannabis but you could argue they started importing because the tendency to consume drugs was already there, it's a chicken and egg situation imo.

Just utilize drug consumption as a convenient reason to send them to labor camps. Most drug users would create much more money for the state this way.
Being in a labor camp also makes it harder to reproduce.

 

[ilovecornsyrup]

Oh wow, how noble of them, they won't sell shit to kids that will most likely kill them after 1 dose.

I am talking pre-fentanyl afghan heroin that won't accidentally kill you from a tiny dose. And they wouldn't sell to kids that were prior users and thus had a high tolerance. It has nothing to do with them not wanting to kill customers.

 

[Boldizar]

If i was ever nice to you, I take it all back. Die.

Are you a subhuman or their libtard minion?

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

Are you a subhuman or their libtard minion?

Ive lost good friends to drugs. Shit that started as sniffing pills with their friends at high school parties that turned into heroin and fent overdoses.

Ive heard wannabe d boys talk about mixing a gram or two of fent into a zip of brown sugar and selling that. So selling poison laced with diabetes is moral...

Fuck you. Die. Die in a fire.

 

[Boldizar]

Except there are many people who get horny by doing drugs like meth/coke and fuck afterwards. Women who become prostitutes due to addiction and don't use condoms pop out babies as well. Your eugenic argument doesn't hold.

Do you realize that "women who would do drugs" already have a predisposition to such behaviors as drug consumption and prostitution? They would've been degenerate and promiscuous anyways.

 

[Boldizar]

sniffing pills at high school parties

Get into the gas chamber NOW!
or get sterilized at least
P.S.
Just realized you're also a CLOSED PROFILE FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!
You and your friends are subhuman parasites. Society would have been much better if people like you and them were dead. Too many innocent people killed and mauled by subhuman junkies and lumpenproletarian trash. Too many labor stolen to sustain parasites so they will support the government daddy. Too many freedoms stolen to prevent complete collapse. Entire states and cities ruined and turned uninhabitable, efforts of entire generations turned futile.
I would gladly torture you, your friends and your and their families to death, so my family won't get ravaged by a horde of subhumans in future. Trash like you is one of the biggest reasons why this regime, a regime that wants us broke and dead, our children raped and brainwashed, has been able to go so far in achieving their goals - you are their main supporter base.
Die.

 

[Racist Parrot]

Zero reading comprehension. Send this negro to the gas chamber NOW!

Just utilize drug consumption as a convenient reason to send them to labor camps. Most drug users would create much more money for the state this way.
Being in a labor camp also makes it harder to reproduce.

I'm sorry you have a mental deficiency.

 

[ilovecornsyrup]

Do you realize that "women who would do drugs" already have a predisposition to such behaviors as drug consumption and prostitution? They would've been degenerate and promiscuous anyways.

Promiscuity is not equivalent to likelihood to reproduce post-1960s because of birth control. Prostitutes don't have any kind of genetic predisposition because it's is not tied to sex drive or desire but it's purely transactional. Nurture is what causes someone to get into the industry. Let's say 50% begin to use drugs afterwards and the drug-induced desperation gets them to drop condoms, that's drug addiction increasing their chances to reproduce.

A woman who is genetically hypersexual would fuck a lot of guys but still use condoms, her chances to reproduce don't increase from that. The most degenerate women I've met are the ones who go to sex/BDSM clubs all the time and they don't even have actual sex there let alone sex that leads to having kids.

 

[Boldizar]

Promiscuity is not equivalent to likelihood to reproduce post-1960s because of birth control.

Its actually opposite. There were noticeable infant death rates back then, and they surely were higher for various sorts of scum.

Prostitutes don't have any kind of genetic predisposition because it's is not tied to sex drive or desire but it's purely transactional.

There are predispositions to promiscuity and low impulse control, both heritable.

 

[ilovecornsyrup]

Its actually opposite. There were noticeable infant death rates back then, and they surely were higher for various sorts of scum.

Yes but overall birth rates have gone down since despite people arguably not being more promiscuous then. That's my point.

There are predispositions to promiscuity and low impulse control, both heritable.

Someone predisposed to promiscuity will engage in casual sex not prostitution. Prostitutes and porn stars are not highly sexual outside of work, in fact it's the opposite. It's just a persona.

Low impulse control has thousands of outcomes, some good and some bad, hence why these genes have persevered throughout millenia. Entrepreneurs, soldiers, cops, explorers need to have low impulse control too. It's a broad personality trait. It'd be like saying being an extrovert makes you a whore.

What does predispose someone to being a prostitute is childhood sexual trauma. In fact this is the highest correlation you will find. Trauma also lowers impulse control and often leads to addiction via neuroticism.

C does not lead to B. A leads to both B and C.

 

[Bloodfeast Island Man]

Lame oversimplification of the issue. If addicts want to get high in private, work for their money and don't bother anybody, who gives a shit? The nonsense going on in California and other liberal shitholes is because they've turned the entire government into enablers, from allowing open drug sales, decriminalizing theft or free narcan for ODs. It's what happens when you governed by people like BossmanJack's parents.

 

[Apochrypha]

They're both filth but drug addicts are worse filth in the end. The drug literally turns them into a subhuman. Someone you've never met, and the person you knew before is gone forever even if they recover and rehabilitate. Drugs can turn a loving mother into someone who'd quite literally sell her own kid for a five second high. And when it's all said and done, when they recover and realize how subhuman they've become, they have no money, no family, no friends, no support, because they've traumatized the only people who loved them and they feel no guilt over it because they'll still just see themselves as victims instead of degenerates who chose that life for themselves.

 

[Calandrino]

You've never really interacted with drug dealers past just getting your stuff and fucking off, have you?

Anime pfps often develop strong opinions about which segments of society should be exterminated, mostly by looking at their computers, never realizing that they're probably the place to start