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chunk of the time the doctor regenerates its due to traumatic injuries and that means he has less control and it kinda fucks with his mental state and makes his next personality more unhinged.
Except for that time Tennant got shot by a dalek and turned into Tennant again for a cheap cliffhanger. RTD really has always been pulling bullshit moves.
 
Except for that time Tennant got shot by a dalek and turned into Tennant again for a cheap cliffhanger. RTD really has always been pulling bullshit moves.
There was an explaination for that one at least, with the severed hand having been a plot point in the past seasons and tying up characters as well.
You can't say the same about bigeneration: they shoot the raped doctor, he splits in half because ReTarD is too much of a faggot to try making another regeneration dramatic and the retard plot resumes.
Then they just make another Tardis and the nigger doctor leaves for adventures the same way you send a smurf account on an MMO to commits some ban-worthy trolling and cheating.

The most delusional shit in all of this is that ReTarD is part of that demographics of those, pardon my use of italian, Microcefali cazzoni handicappati that genuinely thinks running their shit into the dirt and manure is totally gonna own the chuds, instead of making them laugh and enrich the grifters and critic they hate so much.
 
It's disappointing this is happening but in the grand scheme of things who really cares.

I finally checked out after the first episode Whitaker was in. Not because she's a woman but because the writing and characters were so bad and outright cringy.

At the time I wrote it off as me not liking a show anymore who's target audience was kids, but I LOVED the Tennent era and I wasn't a kid then either.
 
I finally checked out after the first episode Whitaker was in. Not because she's a woman but because the writing and characters were so bad and outright cringy.
Honestly gave it a shot. Was happy that fleabag didn’t get the role for the doctor. My wife didn’t want to give it a chance but I was like, “with good enough writing, they could make her run decent”.

Nope. The writing was bad and just torrented the show out of habit. But I checked out on the rest of her run after the timeless child.

The writing was on the wall before Whitaker got the part,

The master regenerated into Missy
The General who re-generated into a bald black woman.
Bill Potts, who was a black lesbian as one of Capaldi’s companions.
Doctor Clara
 
It's disappointing this is happening but in the grand scheme of things who really cares.

I finally checked out after the first episode Whitaker was in. Not because she's a woman but because the writing and characters were so bad and outright cringy.
Never forget: Community predicted the chibnall era my discussing Inspector Minerva and saying how everyone hated her, not because she was a woman, but becayse the writing sucked ass.
At the time I wrote it off as me not liking a show anymore who's target audience was kids, but I LOVED the Tennent era and I wasn't a kid then either.
In the past, producers used to understand that something can be for kids and still hold stuff that adults can still find appealing as well.

Nowadays, the difference between adult and kid entertainment is reduced to the amount of swears and how adult entertainment will be ironic about its own stupidity, rather than just fucking stupid.
 
The master regenerated into Missy...
Bill Potts, who was a black lesbian as one of Capaldi’s companions.
The actor who played Missy was amazing, and the character was really well done. Full of whimsy but with an undercurrent of menace and evil. Loved her, so good.
And the season with Capaldi, Bill Potts and Matt Lucas was really enjoyable. The three characters had such good chemistry together. When it was just Potts and Capaldi it was boring though.

Look I've never given a fuck about 'woke' changes to characters but I object being told to like characters just because they have been 'wokeified'.

Classic example is the female 007 in the last Bond movie. Instead of showing us she was as badass as Daniel Craig, we were just told to "trust us guys she is the best agent cause reasons".
Piss off, take some writing classes or fuck off out of the industry,
 
The writing was on the wall before Whitaker got the part,

The master regenerated into Missy
The General who re-generated into a bald black woman.
Bill Potts, who was a black lesbian as one of Capaldi’s companions.
Doctor Clara
The Brigadier reincarnating as a Cyberman should be included in these lists. Has nothing to do with DEI but it's one of the worst pieces of lore writing they've done. Matt Smith Doctor missing one of his oldest friends passing away is way more bittersweet and fitting tribute for the old soldier. Then they proceeded to shit all over it during Capaldi's run.
 
The Brigadier reincarnating as a Cyberman should be included in these lists. Has nothing to do with DEI but it's one of the worst pieces of lore writing they've done. Matt Smith Doctor missing one of his oldest friends passing away is way more bittersweet and fitting tribute for the old soldier. Then they proceeded to shit all over it during Capaldi's run.

This make me more mad than anything, the most loved supporting character in the history of the show and they do this?

What was wrong with saying goodbye to him at the end of Battlefield?
 
I don't, please enlighten me.
Terry Nation, who wrote the first Dalek story owns the characters not the BBC due to crazy ownership rules at the time allowing freelancers at the BBC to own their creations.

At the time, RTD and BBC were still negotiating down to the wire to get the Nation estate to let them use the Daleks in the revival resulting in the production crew having an alternate version of the script to Dalek made that removes all reference to the Time War and who was responsible for it and was a generic "rescue an alien from a collector which turns out to be super dangerous if it got out" episode.
 
As a Brit and someone who's deeply entrenched in loving Sci-Fi shows (Mainly Star Trek / The Orville), I was quite into Dr. Who as a teen, with the reboot with Eccelston at the fore it took our household by storm to the point that it was the main thing me and my sibling shared through those years, she had a massive collection of Tennant-era collectables, books, DVDs and even the main cast signed photos (Tenant, Barrowman and Piper iirc). I even remember her having a remote controlled K9 she loved. For us both like a lot of people the removal of Tennant did cause us to fall out of caring about Dr. Who, I don't think she cares for the Matt era (I watched it and enjoyed it once he gets his identity onto the character) but from then I stopped caring.

Last year my buddy comes down from Essex, we're both hanging out and decide to surprise a buddy who works at a local tech store (Curries), so we go in and he's busy helping a customer so we post up watching the TV where an episode was playing, specifically it was the one with the latest doctor and the Movie Theatre where it was the rubberhose cartoon doing shit. We both watched it (Sound off due to it being a big store) and the entire time I was bored and I barely cared what was going on, to be clear I actually re-watched the episode with someone weeks later and still felt as bored and uninterested in what was going on. The entire show is a shining example of all the problems with modern Sci-Fi media where the only good one right now is shockingly The Orville written by the dude who's career is made on fucking cutaway gags about a fat retard and 80s nostalgia jokes.

This is why having "DEI" in media is a fucking problem, it's all written by fucking idiots who desperately want to be on the "Right side" of history and want to "Teach the audience a lesson" but they're so retarded they think that getting an audience to dwell on a shows plot and change their attitudes is to beat them over the head with the message (In this case, if you're white and cis you're a dumb stupid who can't do anything and has to bow down to the diversity in the room), I'm not even someone who particularly cares about who my characters are (Fuck, make them a transgender black native american in a wheelchair if you fucking want) but I want them to actually be interesting, have an interesting backstory and make sense in the world and it's setting, give me a reason past "Well he's gay so you MUST like him" or "This dude is a white man with money, so he is evil and you must hate every decision which is portrayed so cartoonishly dumb and evil it stops making sense"

I am super glad to see Dr Who getting cancelled and stop watching something which held a spot in my childhood getting raped over and over, I am hoping the same happens to Star Trek sometime soon because I am fucking sick of these fuck up, neurotic asshole writers hijacking fandoms and legacy media to throw their moral grandstanding everywhere then attack myself and other life-long fans because "This show isn't for you".
 
This show needed to die for a long time. It was like a shuffling zombie, rotting and desperately in need of being put out of its misery.
Well that's how a LOT of legacy media is in modern times, Sci-Fi is being hit the hardest but a lot of legacy or long-running media is just that.

It's also a lot of directors/writers taking on projects which they don't care about, actively dislike the source material or have 0 idea about the source (The Witcher is a great case of this) and using it's name and brand recognition as a vehicle to launch their shitty fanfiction writing. It literally is just necromancy but in media form, "let me raise the zombie of Lord of the Rings but shoehorn in my own fantasy story which is completely unrelated and disconnected from the franchise in then make out I'm a great writer and attack the fanbase when they rebel because I did 1,000,000 things wrong, but I'm not the problem in this one, it's the toxic fans."
 
I even remember her having a remote controlled K9 she loved.
I hope it worked more than the real thing
Last year my buddy comes down from Essex, we're both hanging out and decide to surprise a buddy who works at a local tech store (Curries), so we go in and he's busy helping a customer so we post up watching the TV where an episode was playing, specifically it was the one with the latest doctor and the Movie Theatre where it was the rubberhose cartoon doing shit. We both watched it (Sound off due to it being a big store) and the entire time I was bored and I barely cared what was going on, to be clear I actually re-watched the episode with someone weeks later and still felt as bored and uninterested in what was going on.
It is suprising that alot of davis' subtlty seemed to be regulated by how much budget he was given, the two episodes with the biggest budget was the intersteller song contest, a space eurovision panto that is written by someone without any restraint. It feels like russell still thinks who is on top of the world like it was post 2008 when it was in a deep need to lower the stakes again.
right now is shockingly The Orville written by the dude who's career is made on fucking cutaway gags about a fat retard and 80s nostalgia jokes.
Say what you want about seth but I think he always looks to push himself forawrd in every project he works on, Nu-Nu Who was mostly made by the same group of people who have done it since the rivival started and they are not willing to get out of the box.
This is why having "DEI" in media is a fucking problem, it's all written by fucking idiots who desperately want to be on the "Right side" of history and want to "Teach the audience a lesson" but they're so retarded they think that getting an audience to dwell on a shows plot and change their attitudes is to beat them over the head with the message (In this case, if you're white and cis you're a dumb stupid who can't do anything and has to bow down to the diversity in the room), I'm not even someone who particularly cares about who my characters are (Fuck, make them a transgender black native american in a wheelchair if you fucking want) but I want them to actually be interesting, have an interesting backstory and make sense in the world and it's setting, give me a reason past "Well he's gay so you MUST like him" or "This dude is a white man with money, so he is evil and you must hate every decision which is portrayed so cartoonishly dumb and evil it stops making sense"
I really do think Davis got broken by the death of his boyfriend (its why he said daveros was offensive to be in his dalek suit) he became way too jaded on the world and started to write the show for twitter clips to make content

Actual Russell Quote FYI
It's also a lot of directors/writers taking on projects which they don't care about, actively dislike the source material or have 0 idea about the source (The Witcher is a great case of this) and using it's name and brand recognition as a vehicle to launch their shitty fanfiction writing.
The wild part is that the core fitzroy club (Russell, Moffat, Chibnall) all were tied very heavily into the shows original revival so I dont know if its they dont care about it or its just their isolation to the upper class of tv writting or w/e has effected them. Or again maybe its just russell is old and
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Hey, long time no speak Rotollo, Hope shit's been well but let me respond.
I hope it worked more than the real thing
It was fine all things considered, I don't think she really "played" with it a whole bunch past the first few days, a lot of her stuff was shelf items which she liked because it fit her loves and interests, definitely not like me who couldn't help himself as a kid/teen and quickly playing and overplaying with stuff I loved to the point they were worn fairly quickly.
It is suprising that alot of davis' subtlty seemed to be regulated by how much budget he was given, the two episodes with the biggest budget was the intersteller song contest, a space eurovision panto that is written by someone without any restraint. It feels like russell still thinks who is on top of the world like it was post 2008 when it was in a deep need to lower the stakes again.
For sure, this has also been a major issue with these shows that they over-inflate the budget by pulling in names and faces which, again, don't care about the product they're working with and seemingly have an absolute disdain for it, this is made worse when the BBC and a lot of mainstream media productions are so desperate to be, as I said, "On the right side of history" that they're over-correcting, making their shows dated (By labouring them on "CURRENT TOPIC" shit) and attempting to force-feed "THE MESSAGE" into everything to appeal to the magical audience they believe exists with these products, but always makes up a retardedly small percentage of it.
Say what you want about seth but I think he always looks to push himself forawrd in every project he works on, Nu-Nu Who was mostly made by the same group of people who have done it since the rivival started and they are not willing to get out of the box.
I mostly say it in a sort of "I'm joking but still malding over this" kind of way, when I was put onto the Orville by Star Trek friends I genuinely gave them a sideways look and HAD seen it on the Disney library (Disney+ here has Hulu which is the only way we get it), so I sat down after binging Star Trek (I believe it was Voyager, might've been DS9) and I was instantly hooked, the show genuinely got belly laughs out of me and still challenged me to think about shit like old Trek did.

Seth not only produced a liferaft for the beleaguered and disregarded fanbase of Star Trek, fresh out of the disappointment which was Star Trek Discovery, but he proved that if you give a man with actual heart and passion a mediocre budget (In comparison to Star Trek, Looking at the sets and props on The Orville S1 it seems like they definitely weren't on the same budget, but maybe I'm wrong) he'll spin gold. I am, as aforementioned, living in perpetual hopium for the 4th season of The Orville because I want it to continue, realistically I want Seth to take over Star Trek entirely but I can't be greedy in life.
I really do think Davis got broken by the death of his boyfriend (its why he said daveros was offensive to be in his dalek suit) he became way too jaded on the world and started to write the show for twitter clips to make content
Well as you know I understand the first bit, but ultimately it feels less like it has to do with his loss. But him believing he had the midas touch for this show and chasing trends which goes back to how dated modern media is, it's too busy chasing CURRENT THING instead of remembering shit like Doctor Who, Star Trek, Star Wars, Indiana Jones (etc) were all timeless classics in spite of the "CURRENT THING" it had in the movies, not because it made it the central theme and then spent the entire show handholding the audience going "NOW, THATS THE BAD MAN, BOO THE BAD MAN."
The wild part is that the core fitzroy club (Russell, Moffat, Chibnall) all were tied very heavily into the shows original revival so I dont know if its they dont care about it or its just their isolation to the upper class of tv writting or w/e has effected them. Or again maybe its just russell is old and
It's a mix of many things, clearly Russell, as per his comments in the clip you posted, fell into this smugness that he was god's gift to Doctor Who and likely got swept up in the Trump Derangement Syndrome style of things, I seem to remember they did do an episode with a VERY obvious "Trump Stand In" just because of course, why the fuck wouldn't they? The problem is these fucking people get to a certain point with all their yes men in tow and quickly believe they MUST use this medium to spread "Their Message" and will completely forsake what the show was for the sake of pushing their agenda across.

I remember when Doctor Who was Diet Sci-Fi which could lean on being a bit obvious, but it felt like it was doing it for a younger audience, not for the sake of brow beating the viewer. I thought about it last night how someone I knew who was a big fan of Doctor Who, Star Trek and so on, died before all this went off (2016) and these shows turned into shit, I know for a fact even as left as they were, this would be abhorrent media to them and I kind of envy how they checked out of this planet before all the media they loved got co-opted.
 
when he came back he had nothing left and hadnt been making up new stories in the between times.
I’ll admit, outside of the virtue signaling, the episode where Doctor and Donna are stuck on a spaceship was really good. Probably my favorite of all the episodes.

I liked NPH as the Toymaster. He could have been better written. But yeah, ruined it with all the gayness.
 
This is why having "DEI" in media is a fucking problem, it's all written by fucking idiots who desperately want to be on the "Right side" of history and want to "Teach the audience a lesson" but they're so retarded they think that getting an audience to dwell on a shows plot and change their attitudes is to beat them over the head with the message (In this case, if you're white and cis you're a dumb stupid who can't do anything and has to bow down to the diversity in the room), I'm not even someone who particularly cares about who my characters are (Fuck, make them a transgender black native american in a wheelchair if you fucking want) but I want them to actually be interesting, have an interesting backstory and make sense in the world and it's setting, give me a reason past "Well he's gay so you MUST like him" or "This dude is a white man with money, so he is evil and you must hate every decision which is portrayed so cartoonishly dumb and evil it stops making sense"
At this point, I couldn't care less about whether the show beats audiences over the head with its message or inserts it into the story in a subtle or clever way. The former is eminently preferable to the latter.

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People like MrTARD say antiwoke Doctor Who fans haven't changed or updated their talking points since 2016? I beg to differ. At the time, I was very much of the opinion that, if a progressive show like Doctor Who (progressive, as all good things should be!) wants to win people over to its cause, then it should tell a good story first, and deliver its message second. Otherwise the message of female empowerment and minority inclusion would have the opposite to its intended effect, And That Would Be Bad. (Having this view made me Literally Hitler to progressive zealots of the late 2010s, but that's the be expected.)

Nowadays, I experience a warm sense of relief whenever Doctor Who moralises out loud and makes lefties look stupid. Why would I not want my enemy to look stupid? The moral cancer that's eating civilisation from within thrives when it's wearing the charisma of Tennant or the leather jacket of Eccleston. Drag it out in the cold and it will die of cringe.

My only real gripe with this is that, when the morals in episodes are done especially badly and contradict themselves (Kerblam being blameless for killing customers, Belinda Chandra's past being overwritten to make her a mum, and the Doctor torturing a Space-Palestinian in the Eurovision episode, and the list goes on), the usual suspects come out of the woodwork to claim the current era is "conservative", and that this round of wokeism doesn't actually count.
 
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