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JNT gave a shit and produced a lot of truly great Doctor Who and the main problem he had was the BBC was trying to kill the show and forced him to stay long after he wanted to leave.
RTD never really cared, good who was produced despite him(I think you need a doctor is the most cringe line in tv history)He came back on his own and had total support from the BBC and an unlimited budget thanks to Disney and somehow found a way to kill the show.
What I find bizarre is that they strung us along for the last year with the implication that they had plans, they had scripts - multiple scripts! - only for Russell "Tranny Dick" Davies to go on a tangent in his statement to mock the last few fans who still had faith in him. Damn, that's cold!
That smacks of a very unpleasant parting of ways. Admitting he and the BBC lied to the audiences about a Christmas episode script suggests it was either so bad it will never be spoken of again and they told him to deny his existence or it never existed and he wants to make it clear that the BBC, still stuck with the show, knew that even as they told people it did.
This trainwreck runs for 2 seasons if pure misery, with the first season alone doing almost more damage to the canon and reputation of the show than the entirety if chris chinballs run, the old faggot hired as director has so little creativity left, that it takes 2 seasons that he makes the Doctor turn into a former companion as le epic clifford hunger.
I respectfully disagree. Doctor Who was already ruined from the Chibnall era onwards. And you can't ruin something that's already been ruined. In my humble opinion, buggering a corpse (what RTD2 did) will always be a lesser crime than raping a living person to death (what Chibnall did).
After the second full dose of Chibnall (those fucking Timeless Children), I stopped wanting my former favourite show to get good again and began to enjoy mocking it. If anything, I wanted it to be as total cringe as possible, and for the most part, I got exactly what I wanted. There were occasional good episodes after The Timeless Children, but they'll always be associated with a thing I don't like. But the blunders have been an absolute delight. Space Babies, both season finales, the Eurovision episode, the accidental right-wing morals... all read as elaborate jokes at the expense of the show and it's libbed out fanbase. And Billie Piper's face crudely edited into the final shot (possibly the last Doctor Who EVER) could not make for a better punchline.
While we're doing fantasy casting, I might as well throw my hat into the ring. (If we are keeping to strictly people with acting experience.)
So, continuing with the theme of cringe, I'd go for broke and cast Oliver "Abigail" Thorn, continuing to smash glass ceilings with the first ever trans Doctor! Fuck it. Write his name in the credits as PhilosophyTube.
I don't know who'd fill the role after Thorn, but it had better be someone with cerebral palsy or Down syndrome. We are long overdue for a profoundly disabled Doctor.
If, however, we are aiming to piss off the wokies, my first choice would be Laurence Fox, quite possibly the most openly conservative figure in British telly.
I don't think he'd make a bad Doctor either. But even if he was perfect, the fans would lose their shit over their favourite genderfluid alien being played by a "Nazi". He also has experience in the role, having previously shagged Billie Piper.
If you want an actual serious suggestion, that would be Jack Gleeson. Another young-ish pretty boy in the vein of Tennant and Smith. He may be typecast as Joffrey Baratheon, but there were notes of levity in his Game Of Thrones performance, which IMO suggested he is good for more than just villains.
He may have been a bit too young to take over from Smith or Capaldi, but it wouldn't have happened anyway because he gave up acting after Game Of Thrones, and only recently returned. I might still enjoy him as the Doctor if I still had some unironic interest in the show. He may have to lose the 'tache though.
Honourable mention to Toby "Tobuscus" Turner, who'd DEFINITELY upset the libs with his last few tweets alone.
It's ironic how the children who watched his daily vlogs in the early '10s used to comment all the time that he should be the Doctor, largely because of his quirk chungus verbal diarrhea. If I can ever get over my aversion to having an American in the role, it would totally be worth it, as long as he gets to write his own lines, and call the villain a faggot at least once an episode.
Sadly he is not available to play the Doctor because he has already set his sights much higher...
If they bring the show back I want to see an unknown as the next Doctor, instead of some celebrity just coming in to say they did it and then leaving.
I think whoever it was would need to stay for arpund five years of good stories just to put the show back on solid ground again. We need to get away from this cycle of looking for a new Doctor every year that the show has been in.
The best recovery for this show is to put it on ice for like a decade or so and then bring it back and actively declare everything post-Capaldi at a minimum decanonized without IFs and BUTs,
I don't like fully support this mentality because its what gave us stuff like the sequel trilogy in the first place, but really there isn't right now a better way to deal with this shit and just it can get worse, it doesn't means we need to lower our standards.
Its ok if the Doctor lasts one season or so, for me it matters less the actor and more the writer and director.
I refuse to believe Jodie being a shit Doctor can't be single-handedly blamed on how poorly she was managed, she was a fine (not great) actress, but with little to no directions given, as well as a completely dogshit script.
If I could cast anybody as the next Doctor, I would cast Warwick Davis. If bad guys can't be gimps anymore, can we at least have gimps as the good guys?
No one has beat me to this but I wanted to share with you that Verdana, the leaf made a new video on Doctor Who (new as in almost two weeks ago).
I think is only worth talking about because Verdana, the fucking leaf, decided to get Whotubers together for a segment on their takes about it in the segment, Can We Reverse The Polarity?. Tharries, the furry that made Abzorbaloff, Stubagful, fucking Quinton Reviews. All the stars are here.
I only care about Quinton (which is probably the first time someone has said that ever) so I only retained that since everyone is shitting on RTD, he takes cheap shots too. Q calls RTD and idiot that occasionally makes good television and specially hated the space babies (namedropped Baby Geniuses twice). Funny thing is that despite being the biggest channel of the group by a lot, he was constantly being passed over by the rest and even had a moment to seethe about why he stopped doing Who content (it affects his views, because Q is an algo bitch).
Uh, what? Doctor Who is exactly like this. Hell Doctor Who was originally supposed to end once the Doctor regenerated 13 times and they've already hit that point. If anything permanently putting Doctor Who in the ground might inspire the UK to actually start coming up with good, new science-fiction series instead of using Who as a crutch for decades as they have done.
Nah, nobody is fatigued by Dr Who because no-one is watching it. It's not like back in the day when it was taking up a prominent slot on the public broadcaster that for some people was the only channel they got. Everyone streams (other shows) these days. And it's not like the story is going in circles with the same people- the show is extremely versatile because of the premise. People stopped watching years ago, they're ready for some good Dr Who.
It's extremely hard to get new sci-fi series made (especially on the BBC, you need to be part of the inner cliques), it'd actually be really good as a training ground for new writers (and other crew) to make some episodes and build up their CVs if they kept it to a low budget.
Also, as someone old enough to have been watching before it was cancelled back in the day, nobody knew about the thirteen regenerations thing. It 'originally' wasn't supposed to have any kind of regeneration of any sort if you want to be pedantic.
Then someone brought up some one-off comment from the 70's that everybody had forgotten (if they'd even happened to catch that episode on telly) and suddenly that's locked in canon and needed to be addressed? But not that the Doctor's name is really Theta Sigma? That kind of thinking is how you get Chibnall creating the Timeless Child to 'fix' the Brain of Morbius. Or the awkward "Doctor yelling into the crack in time so he can get more regenerations". Sometimes when you go digging through trash lore you'll find something you can turn into something valuable, but most of the time it's just trash that they should just avoid and ignore (possibly every so often set it on fire with some kind of big reset to get rid of it)
I'll never get over how they gave the Doctor AGP by having him regenerate into Rose. After Capaldi, (well really after the Curator) it's been revealed that he has *some* control over who he turns into. So him becoming his ex-girlfriend is fucking gross as hell.
I like the idea that he's a bit shit at regenerating (or being a Time Lord at all).
Jacobi's Master was pretty confident he could hit "young and strong" to match Tennant and he ended up very close in Simm. Do they say the Doctor has anything more than maybe some subconscious influence? Maybe he really wants the power of Bad Wolf. The Master also seems much more functional immediately post-regen than the Doctor, as does the guy who regens in Hell Bent.
Just bring back Clara and the game of thrones girl like you teased the spinoff that's actually not terrible and it's sort of Doctor Who lite to ease your way into a reboot.
I know, I know Clara was polarizing, but still.
Doctor Who has been something of a red headed stepchild at the Beeb. Even during the prime of the NuWho era, it was being produced out in Wales by a separate team from the regular BBC, and there would be some friction between them, especially in regards to budgets and guaranteeing specials and the like. In the end, the Beeb was sort of treating it like a licensed production, which is probably why it wasn't that hard for them to put Who out to pasture.
Now it's going to go off the air, perhaps some people involved hope if they give it some time off, like if it goes away for a few years that will let things reset and let the dust settle. But, I really don’t think this series, or any of the other mismanaged fading franchises can be revived. I don’t trust anyone has the talent, or at least any of the people they would consider putting in charge.
It's crazy how many major-league IPs have been ruined, totally wrecked by the people put in charge of stewarding them, and how often it's just been for the sake of antagonizing the fans and using these shows as delivery vehicles for political messaging and preachy nonsense about whatever social issues they're obsessed with.
Rebooting Doctor Who would be so pointless and asinine. Doctor Who has literally infinite potential, even eras that have been explored can easily hand waved away with time changing bullshit. Any baggage can and is easily ignored or written around. The only thing that matters is the doctor and his line of incarnations, to throw away those versions of him would do nothing by cause pain for zero reward
The current version of Doctor Who who should be done, they're shopping it around to different productions but they should put it on ice long enough that no one who worked on current Who is working on version 3.0. Once enough time has passed bring it back, ignore almost everything besides the doctor, the master, the tardis and all the popular aliens. Only bring up "lore" if it's important to the story or you're doing fun fan service. I don't want to hear about the time war, or timeless child or any sort of time X, just pretend it didn't happen and retcon it away like they always do.
I accidentally watched the first two episodes of his new drama Tip Toe which is predictably bad, but at least it's a drama about a clueless, vapid, aging, middle class gay guy written by someone who knows what that's like. It makes sense on its own terms as a piece of television. The dialogue in Doctor Who became even more gay and stilted than in a drama about gay people!
I got shown this clip and its pretty infuriating, i especially hate the line which im gonna paraphrase because fuck rewatching it to quote it: I thought things were getting better but all that happened was they let us out in the open so they could find us and lynch us.
The lore is that if you choose to regenerate its pretty simple and you can do stuff like choose what you look like(like with ramona) but a good chunk of the time the doctor regenerates its due to traumatic injuries and that means he has less control and it kinda fucks with his mental state and makes his next personality more unhinged. When the doctor chooses or accepts regeneration the next incarnations are pretty chill like from 1-2 2-3 4-5(he had time to meditate and get his shit together)and from 12 through to piper. the day of the doctor had 8 used an elixir to choose what he wanted to regenerate into and the war doctor seems pretty chill all things considered so he fits with the pattern. When you add them up hes had more good regenerations than bad ones.
Dalek was one of the best things to come out of New Who. So I can only ever criticise it with a heavy heart.
The way that Rose pleads with the Doctor to spare the life of the titular enemy, and this is portrayed as a good thing, kinda rubs me the wrong way. I've seen so many variations of this trope (Kurzman Trek is a frequent offender for this), where the male character tries to solve a problem with common sense and/or violence, but the plucky heroine has an a rare intuition for something she couldn't have possibly known was going to work. And it works because the plot needs in to work. The male gets taken down a peg, and the audience learns a lesson about listening to women. In this case, there was no way in hell for her to know the Dalek would show mercy when it finally saw sunlight, just because it had questioned itself while keeping Rose captive. If the show depicted it as Stockholm syndrome from her captivity, then I could understand. But instead, it's treated as part of the Doctor's recovering from his violent past. I agree that the Doctor needed to go through this, but there are better ways to do it that by having him show mercy to the thing that was, until 5 minutes ago, trying to kill every human and him.
I think it's been a long time since you've seen the episode if that's how you're remembering it. Even just the final scene with the Dalek, it's already blown open the ceiling and had an opportunity to get out and it chooses to open itself up before the Doctor even arrives and starts pointing a gun at her. It's already spared the rich arsehole who tortured it and others including herself; it's passive when the Doctor arrives.
She doesn't have the context (prejudices) of what the Daleks are- from her point of view it's an alien soldier that sent a message for help that was being tortured in a pseudo military base. The Doctor declared it extremely dangerous so she believed him, but it's the Doctor who closed the bulkheads and locked her in with it (more interested in stopping the 'threat' than saving her) and then she wasn't harmed. Then he lets it out, apparently it wasn't enough of a threat that it was worth her death a second time, so what the hell Doctor?
The Dalek didn't need mercy and Rose doesn't plead for it - it WON, it had a way out, and it chose sunshine. The Doctor spent most of the episode giving in to his worst impulses until Rose stops him.
