Disclosure Day - Potentially the last collab of Spielberg, John Williams, and David Koepp

[IAmNotAlpharius]

The real reason the government covers up aliens is to stop dumb ass marines and weebs from trying to tap xenussy.

 

[FatMebius]

We, as humans, care about downed pilots and soldiers. I think people want to assume any advanced intelligences would feel the same way. Empathy is probably hindrance in a grand cosmic scheme. But, I think they're thoughts and interests in life are far different from ours. Just based on the fact that they abduct people, steal fetuses from pregnant mothers or knowingly buzz around nuclear installations? I don't think they give a shit. Either about us or themselves. Even just assuming they're "alive" in the same way we are is a big stretch. Since some abduction accounts seem to indicate some of the greys are like, drones or something.

The footage of the crashes an stuff at the end was somewhat close to allegedly real accounts. The stuff from Kecksburg didn't match up at all though. The craft there was supposedly a weird bell-shaped thing. Roswell looked closer. Although, supposedly the bodies had already been mostly dragged from the crash by the lone surviving alien there.

 

[sex haver]

Just left the theater. This was total ass. 2/10, at best, to me. What a bore.

Is that ever addressed or is Spielberg just a fucking geriatric who doesn't understand how easy it is to spread information these days?

Never addressed. He threatens to do so, and Hugo, the black guy running the "resistance" or whatever you would call it tells him not to so he never brings it up again. He doesn't give a reason, IIRC, just trust him bro he's got a plan.

In the third act there's a line from somebody about if they're gonna bump World War 3 for this broadcast, and I'm like "Huh? Wait, was that what that scene of people raiding that store was about?"

That confused me too. I know they mentioned that things were bad with like the Koreas and something about "worse than Cuban missile crisis" in the background, but at no point did it feel like we were approaching world-ending nuclear war. I could NOT figure out why people were panic buying at a gas station for water and gas, I never felt the threat was THAT big.

That would be fun and exciting, we can't have that in this movie. Also, don't show what happens when the news on the aliens ends.

Yeah, this is my biggest complaint about the movie. I have a lot, but this is number one. The whole fucking movie was setting up this broadcast happening... and then cut to credits. Well what the fuck? The whole point was this event happening and we see none of the aftermath.

 

[FatMebius]

Just left the theater. This was total ass. 2/10, at best, to me. What a bore.


Never addressed. He threatens to do so, and Hugo, the black guy running the "resistance" or whatever you would call it tells him not to so he never brings it up again. He doesn't give a reason, IIRC, just trust him bro he's got a plan.


That confused me too. I know they mentioned that things were bad with like the Koreas and something about "worse than Cuban missile crisis" in the background, but at no point did it feel like we were approaching world-ending nuclear war. I could NOT figure out why people were panic buying at a gas station for water and gas, I never felt the threat was THAT big.


Yeah, this is my biggest complaint about the movie. I have a lot, but this is number one. The whole fucking movie was setting up this broadcast happening... and then cut to credits. Well what the fuck? The whole point was this event happening and we see none of the aftermath.

The whole thing revolving around rising tensions with North Korea itself feels like a very 2000s plot point. Something so out of the zeitgeist because Spielberg didn't wanna touch Russia or the Middle East with a ten foot pole.

 

[The Nothingness]

The whole thing revolving around rising tensions with North Korea itself feels like a very 2000s plot point. Something so out of the zeitgeist because Spielberg didn't wanna touch Russia or the Middle East with a ten foot pole.

Or China, like how the Red Dawn remake and the last Captain America movie didn't make it the big threat.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I watched it saturday. I had some good ideas but it was garbage and felt outdated. The dumbest scene for me was the annoying boyfriend trying and failing to roll over a smartphone. I expected that this scene would be important later like the enemy organization finding the phone and tracking Margaret with it but nope. It was a complete unecessary scene. There were so many scenes that went on for far too long, like when Margaret walked trough her childhood home.

The elderly alien scene at the end was lame and unintentionally funny. The aliens are these stereotypical gray little men but there are also bigger aliens. Also they are too dumb to fly a spaceship as seen in the Roswell crash footage. And this is an advanced race according to Spielberg. The CG was between average and bad. The way the aliens are walking is hilarious and looked like from an old ps2 game.

The more you think about this movie the less it make sense.

5/10

 

[BubbaRobot887]

I still don't understand how aliens this all powerful crash their space ship.

 

[FatMebius]

I still don't understand how aliens this all powerful crash their space ship.

Pilot error. There's some speculation that Roswell, and another lesser known crash in New Mexico, might have been partly due to the higher levels of radiation due to the nuclear weapons testing in the state. Sustaining damage on the trip to Earth is also a possibility.

I would also wager some have been flat out shot down as well. The video below is a pretty neat, schizophrenic look on a nuclear test that may or may not have been a part of an effort to shoot down an extraterrestrial craft.

https://youtu.be/69rYBUd-A1w

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I still don't understand how aliens this all powerful crash their space ship.

Probably weed related.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

Pilot error. There's some speculation that Roswell, and another lesser known crash in New Mexico, might have been partly due to the higher levels of radiation due to the nuclear weapons testing in the state. Sustaining damage on the trip to Earth is also a possibility.

I would also wager some have been flat out shot down as well. The video below is a pretty neat, schizophrenic look on a nuclear test that may or may not have been a part of an effort to shoot down an extraterrestrial craft.

retarded on many levels, for one, intergalactic space ships wouldn't use stick shift piloting, two they wouldn't be the size of jet planes.

there's many more reasons why its heavily unlikely, radiation from a nuke is nothing compared radiation in space, but I mean people NEED to believe that aliens came here from million+ lightyears away in ships the size of a Winnebago and can be taken down by kinetic arms fire.

 

[Chunky Salsa]

Yeah that fucking sucked.

 

[FatMebius]

retarded on many levels, for one, intergalactic space ships wouldn't use stick shift piloting, two they wouldn't be the size of jet planes.

there's many more reasons why its heavily unlikely, radiation from a nuke is nothing compared radiation in space, but I mean people NEED to believe that aliens came here from million+ lightyears away in ships the size of a Winnebago and can be taken down by kinetic arms fire.

I never said they'd be fly-by-wire or anything. We don't even know if they're really coming here in those smaller crafter. Like, not solely. There could be a larger carrier or something or some installations somewhere close by. A lot are probably coming from some undersea facility or something.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

I never said they'd be fly-by-wire or anything. We don't even know if they're really coming here in those smaller crafter. Like, not solely. There could be a larger carrier or something or some installations somewhere close by. A lot are probably coming from some undersea facility or something.

they aren't, because any operation like that would have already been mapped out not just decades, but hundreds of years in advance, you don't come to a planet on chance, that's not how Space works, its too vast, and to get from anywhere that could support life, to here, is hundreds of years of travel, and that's factoring in magical super tech that lets you go way faster than we currently could ever even fantasize about.

so they'd spend hundreds of years, and.. send down some small 1-2 man piloted ships from their carrier we somehow can't pick up (it'd be super massive to carry all the resources for this trip) and those ships would be able to get taken down by 1960's weaponry, and they retailiate with absolutely nothing in response?

no.. this wouldn't play, if they are coming here, it'd be immediate action on arrival, because all the planning would have already been mapped out, for whatever their goal, and considering we don't have anything unique here beyond a livable atmosphere for our kind, it'd be either conquest (the resources to spend to come here suggest this to be silly but maybe they have a religious reason for the mandate) or diplomacy, and seeing as we can't leave our moon orbit in person yet, I can't imagine we'd be a great intergalactic partnership.

If its conquest it wouldn't be a battle, it wouldn't be Independence day, they'd just glass the planet, simple as, we'd be dead in a picosecond, they could do it with our current tech level even, just have dozens of drones drop nukes all at once on every landmass from orbit, you don't even need fancy mothership beams or any other fantasy space tech.

This leaves the most likely truism, no alien has ever arrived here, no alien will ever arrive here in our lifetime, because we aren't special enough in the near infinite amount of planets in just our Galaxy alone to be worth the trip, and if they could get here through magical space tech such as wormholes or FTL, then they they'd be immune from "crashing into the ground" or being shot by a 1960's missle or w/e, one doesn't have the tech to tear open space/time and not have advanced shielding.

 

[sex haver]

I expected that this scene would be important later like the enemy organization finding the phone and tracking Margaret with it but nope.

The funny part about that is that they know her boyfriend is with her, but never track his phone. Nope, Cool Black Man tells her to break her phone and only her phone and her boyfriend is never thought of until the boyfriend calls them. And even then has to give the physical address of where they are!

...Which is funny because in direct contrast, when they couldn't find the Hacker Man with the backpack, they did use that knowledge of his girlfriend to track her with the Magical Alien Device That Possesses People I Guess and find him. So they know this is a tactic, but for Margaret they just don't bother for some reason.

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Also, how was Cool Black Man already assembling Margaret's childhood home before knowing she was the "chosen one" or whatever? The very first phone call with him and the walls are going up behind him, before Margaret does the alien talk on TV.

 

[FatMebius]

The funny part about that is that they know her boyfriend is with her, but never track his phone. Nope, Cool Black Man tells her to break her phone and only her phone and her boyfriend is never thought of until the boyfriend calls them. And even then has to give the physical address of where they are!

...Which is funny because in direct contrast, when they couldn't find the Hacker Man with the backpack, they did use that knowledge of his girlfriend to track her with the Magical Alien Device That Possesses People I Guess and find him. So they know this is a tactic, but for Margaret they just don't bother for some reason.

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Also, how was Cool Black Man already assembling Margaret's childhood home before knowing she was the "chosen one" or whatever? The very first phone call with him and the walls are going up behind him, before Margaret does the alien talk on TV.

A lot of it was clearly stuff that'd look cooler (To a boomer like Spielberg) on camera than something that actually flowed. The devices should've done just one thing each. Maybe one was ONLY the remote viewing one and one was only the memory one. Like, there's lots of little things where I know that any other producer or staff at a studio would've pointed out as a flaw, but only got a pass here because ol' Stevie was the director.

 

[FatMebius]

The whole thing revolving around rising tensions with North Korea itself feels like a very 2000s plot point. Something so out of the zeitgeist because Spielberg didn't wanna touch Russia or the Middle East with a ten foot pole.

Actually, I wonder if this isn't a factor as to why the release of the film in Japan was delayed until October. Like, crazy last minute too.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

This leaves the most likely truism, no alien has ever arrived here, no alien will ever arrive here in our lifetime, because we aren't special enough in the near infinite amount of planets in just our Galaxy alone to be worth the trip

Holy shit I just figured it out. Spielberg's comments about Christians "questioning their faith" over this movie and saying "Well what if aliens are also God's children?" (only for it to never be brought up in the movie because fuck you) would suggest aliens are actually taking a pilgrimage to our planet to see the place their Lord and Savior was born and died on. Out of all the planets out there to visit, they would choose some backwater rock just because it's spiritually significant.

This is such an interesting concept for an alien movie, and Hollywood let an old-timey Jew fuck it up and poison the well because we can't have nice things.

 

[sex haver]

aliens are actually taking a pilgrimage to our planet to see the place their Lord and Savior was born and died on. Out of all the planets out there to visit, they would choose some backwater rock just because it's spiritually significant.

This is honestly a way more interesting concept than Disclosure Day.

The religious aspect was so fucking forced in this. The scene where Hacker Man's girlfriend started telling him he was in the wrong for wanting to release the footage because "what if maybe, possibly, people use this as a reason to stop believing in GOD? That's BAD so you shouldn't do it!" was the exact moment I rolled my eyes and realized this was not going to end well.

 

[Standardized Profile]

People giving up their faith because ayylmaos exist is pre-boomer nonsense thought up by people like Gene Roddenberry because maybe if people stopped believing in God, he could engage in his libertine lifestyle without condemnation. It has become an article of faith among UFO nerds--the US government, particularly the Collins Elite, are covering up the existence of extraterrestrials to prevent a mass defection from Christianity.

 

[Zenos Yae Viator]

The religious aspect was so fucking forced in this. The scene where Hacker Man's girlfriend started telling him he was in the wrong for wanting to release the footage because "what if maybe, possibly, people use this as a reason to stop believing in GOD? That's BAD so you shouldn't do it!" was the exact moment I rolled my eyes and realized this was not going to end well.

Yea I don't know why Aliens would mean God isn't real, what Jew thing to believe lol, I guess when all you do is try and rules lawyer your own God you have an odd way of thinking about religion.