Disclosure Day - Potentially the last collab of Spielberg, John Williams, and David Koepp

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Drinker is right. Its time to retire Steve. You either go out like Johnny Cash with one last banger like his cover of "Hurt" or you go out with a series of embarrassing whimpers like Mike Tyson getting beaten up for money by men three times younger then him.

Watching this movie was like your guitarist 70 year old dad who was in a semi popular local band in his 20s try to pick up and play again and be cool. Steven catches some of his magic every now and again in the movie but everything else is bollocks. The only performance I genuinely bought and remember was the random extra news anchor black lady who wound up covering said Disclosure Day. Emily Blunt tries her Bluntest but bluntly, she just sucks. She can't sell the dialogue and screenplay. Which is arguably not her fault, because it's fucking ridiculous.

I think the biggest sin this movie commits out of it all though is it's marketing as some kind of deep science-fiction movie about big questions and uncomfortable truths, when in reality IT'S JUST A FUCKING CHASE MOVIE. Sure this topic gets brought up here and there for all of 2 minutes. When it does though, it's middle school tier philosophy at best, and at worst it's downright idiotically insulting. It's unironically National Treasure and instead of the Declaration of Independence, it's fucking thumb drives about aliens.

National Treasure has charm and wit, and Nicholas Cage. Instead we're treated to the on screen heavyweight....Josh O Connor. Whom you may remember from Wake Up Dead Man, and....that's about it. He sells as neither a leading man, action hero star, or even all that interesting. His best performance is during this memory recollection scene and...that's about it. You see, the movie is about him but he really doesn't get fleshed out too much. He's paired with Bono's daughter, Eve Hewson whom is going to be my only other acting praise. She gets the majority of the most interesting stuff to do and the actual weighty material. She gets the best stuff to work with and does a good job. Then her character gets written out halfway through for the rest of the movie because Blunt has to become the main female lead.

Honestly, I could go on more but others already have said everything I wanted to say. I just want to say that the acting wasn't great either.

 

[Dragged Into Sunlight]

Holy shit I just figured it out. Spielberg's comments about Christians "questioning their faith" over this movie and saying "Well what if aliens are also God's children?" (only for it to never be brought up in the movie because fuck you) would suggest aliens are actually taking a pilgrimage to our planet to see the place their Lord and Savior was born and died on. Out of all the planets out there to visit, they would choose some backwater rock just because it's spiritually significant.

This is such an interesting concept for an alien movie, and Hollywood let an old-timey Jew fuck it up and poison the well because we can't have nice things.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

Just to sum up the weekend for this hunk of shit:

Grosses: $44M domestic, ~$50M international.

Netting ~$42M against a total budget of $195M ($115M production, $80M P&A)

Meaning it has lost $150M. It may trickle in a few more millions over the next few weeks, but considering the other slop that's coming out, I highly doubt it will be much more than that.

That shitty Michael Jackson movie is close to a billion, btw.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

Meaning it has lost $150M. It may trickle in a few more millions over the next few weeks, but considering the other slop that's coming out, I highly doubt it will be much more than that.

I have zero doubt in my mind that Disclosure Day will break even. The name Spielberg alone drove plenty to theaters and regardless of word of mouth, butts will be in the seats. People are just genuinely curious and aliens is big right now. I knew this would be slop and still went. So did most of us in this thread.

 

[Your Starter for 10]

The math just doesn't support it. Even with only a 50% drop off, which is generous, it's only going to net another $22M, which still keeps its loss over $100M.

Granted, it does have 2 weeks of box office freedom, with only Toy Story 5 to compete with next week (a slightly different demo) and nothing the following week. But then the summer slop rolls out wholesale and it is totally done.

Considering the word of mouth, I think the US audience is done, and it doesn't have the flashy action to draw the international audience (plus I think some Chinese movie is dropping next week that will soak them up).

I mean anything can happen, but every indicator shows this as a $100M+ dud. Course it's jew money so no one involved will pay for it, but it's not even remotely successful.

 

[Kyria the Great]

It makes me wonder why creators keep going at it when it's clear as day that the magic is gone? Speilberg, Coppola, Ridley Scott are the biggest names but it's that makes you wished they stopped making films after the start of the 00s where they would be remembered as legends rather than men who should have stopped 2 decades ago. I agree with the poster above where old creators have two choices, either they throw in the towel or do a Johnny Cash and end their career and lives with something so great they maintain their legendary status.

 

[Hijo de D. Woodchucks Jr.]

Holy shit I just figured it out. Spielberg's comments about Christians "questioning their faith" over this movie and saying "Well what if aliens are also God's children?" (only for it to never be brought up in the movie because fuck you) would suggest aliens are actually taking a pilgrimage to our planet to see the place their Lord and Savior was born and died on. Out of all the planets out there to visit, they would choose some backwater rock just because it's spiritually significant.

This is such an interesting concept for an alien movie, and Hollywood let an old-timey Jew fuck it up and poison the well because we can't have nice things.

Honestly never even thought of it like this. It would explain why little grey fags would risk even coming here for little to no pay off, kinda like the retards that climb the Everest.

 

[mlanguishi]

Honestly never even thought of it like this. It would explain why little grey fags would risk even coming here for little to no pay off, kinda like the retards that climb the Everest.

That would be funny if the greys and so on were only good at making anti-grav/warp drives but so autistic otherwise they can't do jack shit creatively or anything else and are jealous of humans that way.

Once again, the discussion coming off from this movie and Spielberg's marketing seems to be more interesting than the movie itself. There's a few like this, I think Blade Runner 2049 is kind of like that in a way. Even original Blade Runner was a bomb and built up more about the legend of it than the real movie, though it's still one of my favorite movies and always was. I'll have to just sit through Disclosure Day and fully watch it. I've skimmed it more and more which is something I really never do like this.

Maybe someone can convince Spielberg to ditch Koepp and do one last sequel on this. He always wanted to do a movie called 'Dark Skies' which I think would be a great title. He ended up breaking that into Close Encounters, ET, and I guess this one. Get a solid screen writer and do that. Koepp really has a lot more misses than hits when you look at his career. He's pretty good at adapting stories like JP1 if the source is strong. If the source is weak or it's an original of his nearly all are lousy except Carlito's Way. (Panic Room is a fav of mine he did early, and of course Spider-Man 1 which was adapted but fairly original. Guy has a weird mix of good and bad)

 

[Flaming Carrot]

The movie felt like an X-files episode stretched out to 2 1/2 hours. I liked Emily Blunt's character and think it would have been a better movie if they'd combined her character with the ex-nun and had it be more about her being conflicted about exposing the alien cover up lest it lead to more conflict in the world. the chase scenes were exciting, but the good guys could have just uploaded everything to the internet and the bad guy could have solved their problems by drone striking everyone

 

[Beelzebub's Lawyer]

I have zero doubt in my mind that Disclosure Day will break even. The name Spielberg alone drove plenty to theaters and regardless of word of mouth, butts will be in the seats.

I don't know about that, the word of mouth on this is terrible.
His last 2 movies were flops so his name isn't that much of a draw anymore, it seems.
Next week, Toy Story 5 and an experimental Robin Hood movie with Hugh Jackman come out, that will take most of the audience away from this crap.
The week after that, the "best and last" Jackass and the Supergirl movie come out and after that, Disclosure Day will be completely burried.

I don't see this making $250 million which is more or less what it needs to break even.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

His last 2 movies were flops so his name isn't that much of a draw anymore, it seems.
Next week, Toy Story 5 and an experimental Robin Hood movie with Hugh Jackman come out, that will take most of the audience away from this crap.
The week after that, the "best and last" Jackass and the Supergirl movie come out and after that, Disclosure Day will be completely burried.

That's because his last two movie topics captured the interest of exactly No One and unleashed Rachel Zegler on us. We were in also the cinema Dark Ages. I still think it will at least break even. I don't expect it profiting though.

I also think Toy Story 5 will be the next to flop. Robin Hood will do meh. Supergirl will absolutely flop. Jackass will probably profit.

 

[mlanguishi]

I also think Toy Story 5 will be the next to flop. Robin Hood will do meh. Supergirl will absolutely flop. Jackass will probably profit.

TS5 will not flop. Jackass will underperform. Supergirl is going to be the lolcow fest of movies this year. Doomsday will flop, it'll make under $1b and need over $1b to profit. The next one to watch is how bad Doomsday does. There's a good chance it'll do under $900m. Robin Hood is a movie coming out? Really..

 

[Quijibo69]

I also think Toy Story 5 will be the next to flop. Robin Hood will do meh. Supergirl will absolutely flop. Jackass will probably profit.

I don't think it will flop, It will be even at worse. I may go see it because I kinda liked 4 and I hated 2, I'm sorry! I think Robin Hood and Jackass will both flop. The people on Jackass are too old now. No shit Super Girl will flop!

 

[Your Starter for 10]

Jackass 5 has at most a $15M production budget (probably closer to $10, the budget of 4, and is also about half old footage), it'd be almost impossible to flop.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I may go see it because I kinda liked 4 and I hated 2, I'm sorry!

Well when you do, at least tell us in the Disney/Toy Story thread how it is Woody comes back to the gang.

 

[Not A Bunny]

It makes me wonder why creators keep going at it when it's clear as day that the magic is gone?

Because they don't realize it themselves.

They have an image of themselves and their own personal greatness and therefore the potential to do the same great things. It's not like being an athlete where the difference between young guys and veterans is not only evident, it's a blaring neon sign to everyone involved.

What they don't grasp is the shift in time that isn't always obvious because most people aren't thinking about it, whether it be things like humor that fits into a particular time in history (like Mel Brooks), age, or being too surrounded by people that can't say "boo" to them (or in the strange case of Terry Gilliam: people do say "boo" to him and he just won't God damned listen).

A lot of "magic" in Hollywood used to be carried by being a name brand - we don't seem to have that anymore but for a few enduring names, and even those are wearing out their welcome.

 

[Kyria the Great]

Because they don't realize it themselves.

They have an image of themselves and their own personal greatness and therefore the potential to do the same great things. It's not like being an athlete where the difference between young guys and veterans is not only evident, it's a blaring neon sign to everyone involved.

What they don't grasp is the shift in time that isn't always obvious because most people aren't thinking about it, whether it be things like humor that fits into a particular time in history (like Mel Brooks), age, or being too surrounded by people that can't say "boo" to them (or in the strange case of Terry Gilliam: people do say "boo" to him and he just won't God damned listen).

A lot of "magic" in Hollywood used to be carried by being a name brand - we don't seem to have that anymore but for a few enduring names, and even those are wearing out their welcome.

I'm actually glad you brought up Mel Brooks because I do like he stopped making movies after Dracula's Dead and Loving it, a film that should have been made in the 70s rather than the 90s. Actually felt, Men in Tights was a rather weak film to Brooks standards and him largely calling it quits was a mature thing to do. I actually dred Spaceballs 2 because I don't know if Brooks is like Clint Eastwood still making good movies and acting even into his 90s.

 

[crowabunga]

More like "disclose your aaaayyyy"

More like "disclose you're gay"

 

[The Nothingness]

Robin Hood is a movie coming out? Really..

It's based on a ballad, but looks to be another deconstruction of the character. How original and not at all insidious to an English folkhero.

 

[Not A Bunny]

I actually dred Spaceballs 2 because I don't know if Brooks is like Clint Eastwood still making good movies and acting even into his 90s.

Interesting that you brought up Clint Eastwood because I was thinking about him in my original response.

I haven't followed his career really. But as I understand it, he's made movies about getting old, and even from the perspective of someone who doesn't watch his movies, I can get behind that, because it's something a lot of these filmmakers really don't even try to address; they seem to be trying to "keep up".

I have a side rant about the "you're getting old" genre as of late (that being the spate of movies about people who used to be in the game and retired and are now back because circumstances drew them back in, and while John Wick couldn't hold up under the weight of its own concept about 20 minutes into the second movie, at least it's stylish...but I'll shut up about it).

But same...History of the World Part II disappointed me with the little I saw. I have no faith Spaceballs 2 is going to be any good: Lone Starr/Vespa's kid's character is called "Starburst", FFS. And then there's Josh Gad, who is no John Candy, thank you very much.

It's based on ballad, but looks to be a deconstruction of the character. How original and not at all insidious to an English folkhero.

Couldn't be worse than it being about a gay teen rapper called Robyn Hood, but Hollywood will probably make me eat my words on that.