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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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Fuck me, John Healey is Chancellor.

I guess that means Mahmood stays where she is and Milliband gets FO (unfortunately not that FO).
I suppose it's partially a reward for sticking the knife into Starmer, and partially a clever bit of politicking (if the bloke who quit over the defence plan is in charge of the purse strings, he sorta "owns" the balance between fixing the budget and throwing money at the MoD). He's not a completely rogue choice, either, he was a junior minister in the Treasury under Gordon Brown.
 
It's an interesting comparison, and I wouldn't be surprised if Burnham's camp do make some overtures in that direction. However I think the problem he'll have is that the Labour backbenchers are so collectively insane that he'll end up having to either give up entirely or be faced with fighting a near permanent inner party civil war with his own MPs over every single issue.

It's the big problem that any PM Labour brings in will have to deal with, the party MPs are genuinely insane and have a single minded desire to destroy their own country to the point where they're more than happy to also destroy their own party and careers if they feel that a leader is doing anything to slow that destruction down. Even if said slowing down is just lip service to calm the public down, they're just that psychotic.

And that's assuming that he actually has any intention of rolling back the more insane stuff rather than just carrying on with it, but being less in your face about it than Starmer was.
I am sure you are right about the backbenchers and it totally possible he has no intention

It is, as I said, a schizo theory. I won't pretend to take full credit; I heard some similar things in a podcast about a year ago, and when I saw the news articles about the drilling and the absolute glaze job Burnham is getting by the BBC, it was just very similar.
 
You guys think Burnham will be able to hang on till 2029 or will we see another Labour revolt in 2 years time?
Coups are a bit harder to pull off in Labour. It only really worked here because Starmer was hugely unpopular, and Andy Burnham was hugely popular. They need a figurehead they think would easily wipe the floor with Andy, and I'm not sure one would emerge.
That said I hope Wes Streeting attempts another coup and fails at some point, because it'd be really funny.
 
Coups are a bit harder to pull off in Labour. It only really worked here because Starmer was hugely unpopular, and Andy Burnham was hugely popular. They need a figurehead they think would easily wipe the floor with Andy, and I'm not sure one would emerge.
That said I hope Wes Streeting attempts another coup and fails at some point, because it'd be really funny.
From the handful of people I've talked to about it they're not holding their breath that things will get better but they have a much better opinion of Burnham than Starmer. Just about all of them mention 'all he's done for Manchester' but most have been light on the specifics of just what he actually did.
 
Honestly enjoying this shitshow a lot more than I should. Really funny how the MINUTE Burnham got in all of a sudden you got BBC and ITV reporters SUDDENLY finding anti-Starmer members of the public. Up until then every single person they found were salivating over his cock and balls more than Lord Ali.

It's just ridiculous. Mere months ago were were gaslit with "DAE think Starmer is doing a good job?" and now everyone is stepping over one another to massage Andy's prostate.
 
Speaking of recent news about Labour passing laws in exchange for money

Scotland Yard is assessing claims that Labour banned fox hunting in return for a £1m donation from an animal rights group.
The Metropolitan Police is looking into new allegations that Lord Mandelson and another senior Labour figure suggested that the party introduced the ban in 2004 in return for the £1m donation from the International Fund for Animal Welfare (IFAW).
Brian Basham, a former Labour fundraiser, said he had “known for many years” that Labour’s Hunting Act 2004 was “bought and paid for by a political donation” from IFAW in 1996.
He claimed that he had been sent by Jonathan Powell, then Sir Tony Blair’s chief of staff and now No 10’s national security adviser, to collect the money from Brian Davies, IFAW’s late founder.
The new accounts of the affair from Lord Mandelson, the disgraced former US ambassador, and Mr Basham have been referred to Scotland Yard by pro-hunting campaigners in a formal complaint requesting that detectives investigate the party for alleged misconduct in public office.

Donation made before 1997 general election​

A Met Police spokesman said: “On Monday, April 20 we received a report in relation to a donation made to a political party prior to the 1997 general election. Officers are currently assessing this report.”
Police sources said it would be “inaccurate at this stage” to suggest that the Met had launched an investigation or that any individual was under investigation.
An email to the complainant seen by The Telegraph said: “It will initially go through the first line of assessment to make sure everything is recorded properly. At this point it will then be passed to the relevant unit for investigation.”
The complaint was lodged by an environmental financier supported by his legal team. Ed Swales, the founder of Hunting Kind, who has been involved in the submission, said: “My whole mantra is to stand up for what has happened to us and restore natural hunting within wildlife management and sustainable land use.
“I want to fight this one for what we believe in rather than the 20 years of being reactive and just getting salami sliced bit by bit.”
A Labour spokesman said: “All donations to the Labour Party are declared transparently, in line with the rules, and have no bearing on party policy.
“The circumstances surrounding this donation have been publicly discussed for many years and are already a matter of public record.”
The new claims come as Labour moves to enact its 2024 manifesto pledge to ban trail hunting, a policy publicly backed by Andy Burnham, the incoming Prime Minister.

Lord Mandelson, who is being investigated by the Met for misconduct in public office over the alleged leaking of sensitive government information, made his claims about the donation in an interview in December 2023.
As part of a discussion over whether donors had put parties under pressure to change policy, he said: “I can offer you an example from 1997 where an organisation – it was a fund to do with the welfare of animals – got pretty transactional with us. It was the first and last time I remember this.
“They wanted a ban on hunting in return for a very sizeable amount of money. And Blair and co were sort of reluctant obviously to enter into some sort of trade over this policy. However, there were a lot of people in the party who wanted that ban – there were a lot of MPs coming and demanding it.
“And we got into a difficult situation where frankly we went a little bit too far – further than Blair wanted – in making this commitment in our manifesto. It was, frankly, under not duress but under some sort of pressure. It wasn’t attractive and it’s not been repeated.”

Mandelson’s ‘eruption of honesty’​

A week later in a letter to the Guardian newspaper, Mr Basham said: “I’ve known for many years that Labour’s Hunting Act 2004 was bought and paid for by a political donation, but I was surprised to see Mandelson admit it in an eruption of honesty.”
He then claimed that he had been sent by Mr Powell in 1996 to meet Davies at the Draycott Hotel in Chelsea where “I collected from him a cheque for £1m made out to Labour”.
“As he handed over the cheque, he was fiercely direct: ‘We have to stop hunting with dogs’,” added Mr Basham.
He said that shortly after, Sir Tony appointed Lord Levy as Labour’s chief fundraiser to run a “high donor” campaign.

Mr Basham said he disagreed with this policy, arguing instead that Labour should stick with his approach of focusing on thousands of small donations from a lot of people, the so-called “1,000 club”.
“We set our faces specifically against attracting large donations because of the potential they carry for corrupting policy and people,” he said.
“With Davies’ cheque warm in my mind, as soon as I was told that Blair wanted to concentrate on high-level donors, I went immediately to see the general secretary of the Labour party, Margaret McDonagh, and told her that I was resigning from fundraising.
“She asked me why. I said: ‘If someone gives you £100,000 they want something. If they give you £1m they demand it.’
“It’s all a most terrible shame. Party political funding is deeply corrupting. We need state funding of political parties, combined with prison sentences for those who breach tightly prescriptive rules.”
Labour has consistently denied that the hunting ban was linked to the £1m donation or that there was any agreement with IFAW to introduce it in return for the money.
In response to Lord Mandelson’s comments, a spokesman for Sir Tony said: “This is a misinterpretation of what was said, there was no such agreement. [Lord Mandelson] is clearly saying there were a lot of people who had passionate views on the subject.”
Mr Powell was contacted for comment via the Cabinet Office, but the request was passed to party political advisers.
They are also trying ban trail hunting currently.
 
Honestly enjoying this shitshow a lot more than I should. Really funny how the MINUTE Burnham got in all of a sudden you got BBC and ITV reporters SUDDENLY finding anti-Starmer members of the public. Up until then every single person they found were salivating over his cock and balls more than Lord Ali.

It's just ridiculous. Mere months ago were were gaslit with "DAE think Starmer is doing a good job?" and now everyone is stepping over one another to massage Andy's prostate.
One can only hope Burnham’s tenure will be just as entertaining of a dumpster fire.
 
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