8-May-2016: Phil sperging about guns again - Links smallest gun he can find

Ya, looks like Phil decided to look up what types of guns that hoodlums like to use in an effort to "fit in", I guess with the latino community which I now assume he thinks is full of gangs.

Glocks were controversial at first since they were effectively all plastic in design. While they have a metal plate or two in them to prevent that whole "illegal to use due to being undetectable" thing, it was a big issue back in like the 80s when they tried exporting to Murika. Thing is that a determined criminal can get that plate removed. So the pigman is basically squeaking about a gun that may or may not raise an eyebrow since he also postures about wanting to murder people.
 
Ya, looks like Phil decided to look up what types of guns that hoodlums like to use in an effort to "fit in", I guess with the latino community which I now assume he thinks is full of gangs.

Glocks were controversial at first since they were effectively all plastic in design. While they have a metal plate or two in them to prevent that whole "illegal to use due to being undetectable" thing, it was a big issue back in like the 80s when they tried exporting to Murika. Thing is that a determined criminal can get that plate removed. So the pigman is basically squeaking about a gun that may or may not raise an eyebrow since he also postures about wanting to murder people.
Why dont I hear stories about criminals using these to get past metal detectors?
 
For those who don't know, GLOCK pistols have no active safety mechanism, like a lever the shooter has to "actively" disengage to fire the weapon. They have a "passive" safety mechanism, meaning the user doesn't have to think about disengaging it.

No wonder cops love it. They can just randomly shoot people at will without even thinking about it.
 
My money is on a Tokarev or a Naggant revolver, he's sperged about them before.
Probably and since he was called out here on it before and lurks here he might address the nagant as it. In his video where he fired a BB gun or something he called it a mooooossssseeeennn revolver.

It'll be amusing to see another case where Phil learns and uses us to sound mildly less stupid.


Currently there is a big push in non metallic ammunition, I saw one document a while back where some one was talking about a Ceramic Polymer hybrid caseless round while it wouldn't set off a metal detector it sure as hell would show up on a metal detector.
It's pretty far off from my research into it, and I'm speaking as a reloader myself. Edit: for the common man

Even if somehow in the near future there's a way to make a metal free gun. Phil won't have the money, brain power or drive to do get one so no scare.
 
I don't think anyone has picked up on this yet on here, but there's a rather fascinating facet to the gun of choice that our friend hooves decided to sperg over.

There is one Kel-Tec PF-9 in particular that is commanding the current news circuit as it were, the one that our good friend George M. Zimmerman used to kill the rampaging, teenage POC, Trayvon Martin.

Unrelated to the topic, Zimmerman is actually trying to sell that pistol right now.
http://www.unitedgungroup.com/auction/detail/auction/9/slug/george-zimmerman-s-gun-used-2-26-12
 
I would not place Phil as being smart enough to remember or care about the gun used. So I highly doubt he picked kel tec due to the Zimmerman fame.

I do still find it odd as its not a large name.
 

.45-70, even in an 8lb gun, would be a helluva wrist snapper. And with the string cheese Phil calls "muscles" he'd probably sprain his wrist, or even compress, disperse, or even fracture his wrist bones. So, yeah, I agree that Phil should get one (if he can stop himself getting more shitty ink done for a few months to scrape together the AutismBux to afford one).
 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QSZ-92
He Posted this link to FB. Chinese pistol. Anybody know more about guns that can tell how much it sucks?

These aren't available for import into the United States, but they are available in Canada. Canada is able to get some foreign firearms that we aren't because they have different import/export laws and different gun laws. For being a Chinese made weapon, they are at least half-way decent. Most Chinese weapons are knockoffs of other countries' designs, just like most of their products in general, and their indigenous designs are hit and miss in terms of build quality, reliability and accuracy.

However, all that is a moot point because Phil is only interested in it because it's made by the ChiComs and is a weapon. Unless he becomes a Canadian citizen he'll never be able to own one because they are barred from being imported.
 
I'm more astonished that there's a gun store in BERKELEY! 20 bucks says it was made from tofu or something!
there really isn't, not for many years. the closest would be in El Cerrito, the Gun Room - a small shop that largely caters to the older folks with some modern pieces thrown in.

also this is my first post, so "hi". i've largely read ED and CWCwiki and came along from other places, but i knew i vaguely recognized this guy when he came asking around my shop about firearms and eventually showed himself out. i saw him on ED when linked over from the CWCwiki and connected the dots.

not sure if anecdotes are okay to share, since my interaction with him was under 20 minutes, but i figure if i have a local lolcow i should keeps some tabs on him! if nothing else, then at least for something to share with you all that have given me many mirthful drunken nights reading through threads and CWCwiki pages.

speaking professionally for a moment, the PF-9 is a "okay" pistol. it'll get the job done if you're on a budget and want something no frills that isn't complete trash (Jiminez, Raven Arms, et c) or isn't a Hi-Point. heck i'm surprised that Phil was even interested considering it's the same make/model that was used by Zimmerman out in FL.

we're unlikely to see an armed Phil with anything legal though - in CA, handgun Concealed Carry Weapon licenses effectively are impossible to obtain around the major metro areas (barring SD, Sac, or Fresno). further the requirements for even purchasing a handgun in CA are extremely onerous compared to other states (and expensive - typically firearms are 10-20% more in CA than elsewhere).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/QSZ-92
He Posted this link to FB. Chinese pistol. Anybody know more about guns that can tell how much it sucks?
it has a terrible terrible pull and a "meh" service life. i've handled a Norinco NP in Toronto (Mississauga specifically, a suburb), and in 9mm it's okay. most Norinco and eastern bloc stuff is fairly good quality, if a little rough around the edges.
 
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not sure if anecdotes are okay to share, since my interaction with him was under 20 minutes, but i figure if i have a local lolcow i should keeps some tabs on him! if nothing else, then at least for something to share with you all that have given me many mirthful drunken nights reading through threads and CWCwiki pages.

Yes, anecdotes are always welcome! Was Phil in your shop recently, or is this from a while ago and you finally stumbled upon him online?
 
Ya, looks like Phil decided to look up what types of guns that hoodlums like to use in an effort to "fit in", I guess with the latino community which I now assume he thinks is full of gangs.

Glocks were controversial at first since they were effectively all plastic in design. While they have a metal plate or two in them to prevent that whole "illegal to use due to being undetectable" thing, it was a big issue back in like the 80s when they tried exporting to Murika. Thing is that a determined criminal can get that plate removed. So the pigman is basically squeaking about a gun that may or may not raise an eyebrow since he also postures about wanting to murder people.
not true really... they were controversial at first for being a very popular "plastic wonder 9" (beaten by the H&K VP70 some decade earlier) but the legislative move to ban them from sale went nowhere when more informed people realized that the frame was largely plastic (a Glock specific mix of Nylon 6 with other long chain polyacrylamides) as were some features, but all important things (like the slide, the springs, most control levers, the ammunition, the recoil rod assembly, the sights, parts of the magazine, on and on) were steel or aluminum and were detected happily by metal detectors of all kinds.

Yes, anecdotes are always welcome! Was Phil in your shop recently, or is this from a while ago and you finally stumbled upon him online?
he was in my shop towards the end of May, i want to say the 28th but may have been the 27th. he was a bit shabby, but i've had all kinds of people at my shop (and it's a shop, not a store, i'm a gunsmith/manufacturer not really a dealer except for some wholesale stuff) and after looking around and playing with a phone, i asked if i could help him. he mumbled a little, glancing at things behind my cage (that separated my shop area from my sales counter) and asked about import pistols. i said i mostly did either imports, manufacturing, or repairs - was he looking for anything in particular. he was looking for pistols or maybe a shotgun - something under $200. i didn't really have anything like that and advised him of some local stores i knew and to try and look for a used deal on calguns (a forum). he said okay, looked around some more for the next 10 minutes took a couple pictures of interesting guns on display, and left.

i knew i had seen him somewhere but didn't make a connection until i was browsing ED on recent lolcow articles and was linked to him off the CWC-Phil reveal video. now that i know who he is, i can say that he's been in my shop previously once or twice in the past month but never asked for anything and the first time had someone with him - a friend or roommate from their talking.

edit: let me add a few details he was carrying a ratty looking woven or other cloth type tote bag with some heavy stuff in it (books maybe and a thermos from the shapes if i were to guess) and kept fiddling with his phone the entire time. his clothing reminded me of shitty grunge bands from the 90's with a lot of tattered black, some pins and buttons, a knit hat, and unkempt greasy hair under it. he had some cheap headphones, and a shirt with the sleeves ripped off and a green jacket he wasn't actually wearing, but just had draped over the top of the tote bag. i've had worse people come in, but it's a rarity - average gun store customers wear jeans, slacks, a polo or t shirt, and are generally put together. he stood out and seemed uncomfortable which was why i played light-touch since first time buyers are the nervous type in my experience.
 
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i knew i had seen him somewhere but didn't make a connection until i was browsing ED on recent lolcow articles and was linked to him off the CWC-Phil reveal video. now that i know who he is, i can say that he's been in my shop previously once or twice in the past month but never asked for anything and the first time had someone with him - a friend or roommate from their talking.

This really stood out to me. Do you happen to remember anything about the person Phil was with, like what they looked like? Some people here have had long-held suspicions that Phil isn't anywhere near as homeless as he says he is, and that could help narrow down just who might be dumb enough to give him a couch to crash on.
 
This really stood out to me. Do you happen to remember anything about the person Phil was with, like what they looked like? Some people here have had long-held suspicions that Phil isn't anywhere near as homeless as he says he is, and that could help narrow down just who might be dumb enough to give him a couch to crash on.
their conversation was about TV i think - maybe a movie. the guy he was with was taller, slimmer, reminded me of a poor student or something with the Jansport backpack, general scruffiness and seemed to just be there to back up Phil. He dressed better in jeans, sneakers, and a black shirt with hard to read purple writing on it. he was a white guy, maybe with an asian grandmother or something, with black hair - black enough that i'd believe it was dyed. they walked into the shop, but it didn't seem like they drove there since they didn't pull away from the lot or off the curb. there's a bus stop about a block behind my shop so maybe they live nearby or took the bus. he was almost certainly younger than Phil, visibly so.
 
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