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Should be a wild four years.

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So is this the actual honest to god thing the left will point to when they say he raped women?? I'll go read about it myself. Thank you for the information.
IIRC that's the case where the state legislature stepped in to extend the statute of limitations (and apply that extension retroactively to cases that were already past) expressly so the case could be brought.
 
I hope you lot are looking forwards to getting some angy letters from da orfcorm in the relatively near future, we can compete to see who collects the biggest pile: mine is the size of a upturned jamjar now.
Making shut up. And brown? Please
Those are some nasty ass nails bro, learn what exfoliation is please, :bogged: collected regardless.
 
I love this country. Everything about it. We're just better in every way. Even the bad ones. Our trannies more troon. Our tards more tarded. Our war crimes way cooler. This country is the pinnacle of human achievement. The American culture is one that supercedes everything that came before. We're just better. We doom. But we cannot lose. There is no darkness in this world capable of truly killing The American. When Christ comes back to us, he's gonna show up at bonfire in buttfuck Missouri.
Our trannies have the thickest, hardest girlcocks and our pooners are the most disappointing pooners around.
 
I love this country. Everything about it. We're just better in every way. Even the bad ones. Our trannies more troon. Our tards more tarded. Our war crimes way cooler. This country is the pinnacle of human achievement. The American culture is one that supercedes everything that came before. We're just better. We doom. But we cannot lose. There is no darkness in this world capable of truly killing The American. When Christ comes back to us, he's gonna show up at bonfire in buttfuck Missouri.
Christ is going to show up in Utah, and reveal that Joseph Smith was indeed correct and show the golden plates, then you will all be casted to the lake of fire and scream "oh god nooo if only i had been a true believer!!" and all you'll see in the sky is WelperHelper laughing fatly in his personal planet on his shining magic underwear for being a true and honest follower of the one and only true religion.
 
I don’t trust any writer that says humanity will transform into apes and China will rule the earth because:

A. Chinese people eat apes. So, like, this ape furry coexistence world with China? Absurd. There would be China on ape crime on the daily. Also, most people would transform instead into white trash bikers and dog men with absurd size boobs and weiners from what I can tell on the internet.

2. Apes and ape men can’t use the internet. That’s a fact. So expecting ape people or Chinese apes in particular, to “patch the net” is a a foolish concept.

3. The cyber future will not cater to ape sex. It’s disgusting, eating they own poop and farting everywhere.

In short, I question this author.
If I remember correctly, there aren't actually any Chinese characters in the book. I suspect the author just used Beijing for worldbuilding flavor, since contrary to what you might think, the Beijing World Government of 2996 operates under glorious capitalism and democracy. The plot would be pretty much identical if the capital were called Washington, Kathmandu or godforsaken London. Nations themselves also no longer exist under the World Government, and with people "morphing" their outward appearances into anything they want, traditional identity has basically been erased. The best way I can describe the setting is Brave New World meets Star Trek, while the plot and characters are closer to Bladerunner and Deus Ex. Don't go in expecting it to be as good as those properties though, the writing is a bit of a mixed bag.

For more details on the ape morphs, they're portrayed less as a fetish and more like a fashion trend. Although from the protagonist's reaction to his son's morph you could make comparisons to trooning out (he detransitions in the end don't worry).
He went into the living room, set the two teacups—one of which was still full—in the demiurge, and told the computer to dispose of them. While the device hummed, he gathered up his gun, badge, and jacket. Before he could leave, however, the telepod started groaning, building a body. He waited patiently, his jacket folded neatly over his arm. Meanwhile, Claire stood nearby, distracted and looking worried. Maybe it's Clay, he thought. Sure enough, the computer said, "Mr. and Mrs. Cramer, your son is home. "The doors came open and a horrible creature came out, a hairy ape-like morph. Paul’s hand moved to his gun. The creature would have been stunned cold if the computer had not already spoken.

"Hey, Mom, Dad."

The morph crossed the room, hauteur etched into his cartilaginous face, his fingers brushing some lint off of one arm, as though the ape-hide were a fine dinner jacket. This thing, his son, headed for its bedroom.

"Clay!" Paul leapt in front of the boy, blocking his path. "My god, what have you done?"

"We've been through this before. Remember? Or did you die again?" Clay glared at his father with round white baboon eyes, then quickly pushed past.

"Clay! I didn't die, but—wait!"

The boy shut his bedroom door. Paul tried to open it, with no luck. "Computer, unlock Clay's door." There was a clicking sound. Paul pushed open the door to his son's room.

His son was reclining on the bed, preparing to read. "I'm sixteen," he said. "I deserve a little privacy."

For several seconds Paul just stood in the doorway. This fashion, this statement, the building "reformist" attitude . . . what part of all that could Clay know about or understand, at sixteen?

"Yes, Dad, I'm a retroevolutionist. Your very own son."

He felt a hand on his shoulder. "Leave him alone, Paul."

"When did you—"

"Let's go into the other room," said his wife. "I'll explain."
There's also some pretty based tranny representation.
The second suspect, a man who had morphed into a tall, slender woman, refused to say anything about his work on Against Their Will: Lesbian Fantasies for Male Heterosexuals until he could consult a lawyer.
The novel is a short read so it's an easy recommendation, though I'd skip it if you're prudish since pornographic simulations play a crucial part in solving the mystery.

I'll include the review that convinced me to read it, although upon revisiting it I think it's a bit generous with its praise.
This book is a neo-noir mystery. In terms of plot, it’s a fairly straightforward yarn about a detective who is tasked with tracking a mysterious femme fatale. Along the way, he delves into a depraved criminal underworld, is forced to flout the normal rules of police procedure at risk to his own career, and ultimately finds his own and his family’s lives threatened.


I guess this all sounds pretty standard for a detective mystery, doesn’t it? Well, I deliberately phrased it so. But I guarantee you, this is like no other detective story you’ve ever read.


It’s set in the distant future, when everything can be copied; the matter rearranged. This includes human beings. It’s not at all unusual for a person to die, and a new copy to be “instantiated” from the data stored in some central insurance system. Cosmetic alterations of all sorts can be performed instantaneously and at will.


This is in addition to the extreme nature of virtual reality programs, which can simulate anything anyone desires, creating a completely immersive experience.


In this world, the nature of reality itself starts to get fuzzy, and indeed, in the early part of the book it was hard for me to even conceptualize what was going on. Such a universe feels so bizarre it becomes difficult to ground oneself in anything relatable.


And yet… in a way it was relatable. At least to me, a terminally-online millennial, who grew up with the internet and video games. The logic of Demiurge is the logic of the 21st century media infotainment complex, carried to its natural conclusion. (It’s important to note here that the first edition was written in the year 2000.)


That was the really haunting thing about this book for me. There are sentences describing the most fantastic and mind-bindingly weird concepts, followed by sentences that feel like they could be describing the world we live in now. The overall effect is… disturbing.


Actually, many things about this book are disturbing. The femme fatale that our hero is tracking leads her admirers… clients… victims… whatever you want to call them… into a world of strange and unsettling perversity. I don’t want to spoil too much, but let’s just say that it wouldn’t be a stretch to say this book contains psychosexual horror elements.


The really chilling aspect of it is, for every unsavory thought and act referenced in the pages of Demiurge, the text seems to implicitly ask, “Could you imagine this would happen, if technology permitted?” And in every case, I could. This is no lurid penny-dreadful; making up horrible things for shock value. No, far more subtle than that… it is a window into the collective id of the age of Techno-Decadence.


Every chapter begins with epigraphs from various texts, some real, some fictional, and all related to the themes of identity, reality, and the nature of the human mind. The book would be worth reading for these passages alone, which contain brain-twisting ideas and downright eerie visions of the cyberpunk nightmare that waits for us in this imagined future.


As I approached the climax of the book, I was worried the story would, like so many noir tales, sink too deep into its own exquisitely thick atmosphere of nihilism. This can happen easily in this sort of story, when the sheer crushing weight of all the grimdark overwhelms everything else.


But no, thankfully that didn’t happen. Pacotti was able to stick the landing, and in the final chapters, he ties things up well, and in so doing, provides a character who is, I think, the perfect hero for the age of social media. It’s rare in modern storytelling to have the main character give a speech un-ironically defending his actions and his values. But then, noir detectives are rare in modern storytelling too; and that’s what makes the final chapters of Demiurge feel like coming home. After a mind-breaking, head-spinning dive into the darkest depths of humanity and technology, we come up for air and have something familiar, at last, to grab hold of.


Maddening, disturbing, terrifying, confusing, prophetic, and not without rays of hope and real emotion; Demiurge is a metaphysical magnum opus for our time.
 

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Find me one person who's brain doesn't go into complete mush when encountering "politics" and you'll be left searching for quite some time.
I won't bother trying to show you one, as you wouldn't be able to comprehend it anyway.

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I'll stop drinking coffee when you fucking people stop calling 911 at 3AM for outrageous horseshit.
I'm a well-armed straight white male. I don't call 911 for any reason under any circumstances. Summoning you niggers is tantamount to begging the state for pain, misery and death. I will never fucking call you maniacs because anything we've been instructed to call 911 for is better served by just transporting the patient ourselves to a medical facility we can actually trust, running away and/or shooting the threat dead. I will call 311 instead once the crisis is over and cleanup is required.

Dispatchers/operators are universally stupid, lazy and spiteful, any "first responder" they send will be a surly, self-centered, glorified school nurse with an unwarranted hero complex, any cops who can actually find the call address will feature standard-procedure 80 IQ NPC firmware programmed to make things far worse and if "fire/rescue" gets involved you might as well just get your insurance company on the phone before their cars' wheels come to a stop for all the fucking damage they're about to cause to your property.

To rephrase, cops are functionally useless (and serve only to issue citations and make arrests once they figure out which victim hasn't suffered enough), EMS are universally chain-smoking patient-hating judgmental asshole addicts who hate their jobs so much they can't even keep their holes shut about it during patient transport, and fire/rescue might as well pack fireworks of their own for all the good they do actually stopping fire damage.

There is one provision for alcohol, and its the sacrament.
lol of fucking course there is. Religion is universally a bag of twisted hypocritical "laws" that always have exceptions when they're inconvenient.

Getting off pills is as easy as saying 'don't prescribe these as much' an ween off them.
You're getting negged by all the resident addicts but of course you're right. You end addictions by ceasing consumption and treating withdrawal symptoms until they stop, then maintain sobriety by removing yourself from any exposure to whatever substance you can't control yourself around. Everything else is psychobabble designed to excuse weakness and laziness.
 
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Reminder that the majority of the right has spent the better part of a decade accurately predicting this very future. And now the Trump administration is about to give it to us. Total Big Brother Victory.

But hey, at least men can't join the WNBA anymore or something.

Dying alone is our only option. We lost long before the war even began.
 
If the GOPe had embraced the Tea Party guys instead of smacking them down, they wouldn't have gotten Trump, but they're too stupid and petty to understand that.

I thought I had a few other quotes to add to this, but whatever, I'm going to plow ahead. Both parties have this terrible problem where they have deeply entrenched members that are caught in a basic lolcow spiral of completely emotionally driven spiteful opposition to everything. Mostly to internal changes or external actors, like Trump, and this inability to stop their own spiral has seeded their destruction, lolcow style.

For example, the GOPe's complete destruction of the Tea Party (instead of bringing them in or managing them subtly) built up so much resentment and distrust in not just rank-and-file but Republican voters, creating a lightning rod for a charismatic personality like Trump to come in and galvanize that into action. This continued even into his Presidency, where the GOPe could have easily pulled strings in the background with only minimal compromise, but they were unwilling to compromise to any degree and soured Trump on them. You know, the guy that could have easily brought them more power and money.

Flip the parties and consider the Democrat response, you know, the continual persecution and assassination attempts, all of which were completely unnecessary, futile, and incompetent. (Save one, which was prevented by the grace of God.) All it did was harden his resolve and solidify the support he has among his base, while isolating and weakening the Democrat incumbents through increasingly shrill purity spirals.

Trump could have been the establishment's big pressure relief valve, a drink of cool water for the slowly boiling frog that would have been merely a mild, temporary inconvenience. All they had to do was take a little hit and manage their expectations for a while - but they couldn't do that. They couldn't cut their losses and try to manage things from a different position, no, like a typical lolcow they had to stand firm and sperg out impotently, pissing and shiddin' themselves pointlessly. Now everything is fucked to an even larger degree for them.

IIRC that's the case where the state legislature stepped in to extend the statute of limitations (and apply that extension retroactively to cases that were already past) expressly so the case could be brought.

The politician who wrote the legislation was funded by the same person who paid for Carol's attorneys, and when the law was passed they announced it on twitter and tagged her and her attorneys in the tweet. It was an obvious bill of attainder and contrary to the Constitution and everyone involved in passing the law and bringing this case, including the judge, should be removed from society. Put them on a little island and let them eat coconuts or something until they appreciate the sacred role of the law in keeping society civil.

“William Roper: “So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!”

Sir Thomas More: “Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?”

William Roper: “Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!”

Sir Thomas More: “Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!”
― Robert Bolt, A Man for All Seasons: A Play in Two Acts
 
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