Debate Laura Voepel on whether her son Anderson Aldrich was a hero for murdering gay people

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Then you'd be the first kiwi to care in some form about a stranger that you want them to better themselves. You have to admit that that is highly unlikely, or rather, not the case. The focus of a kiwi farmer is to point and laugh and not to care and be kind.

I'm fairly certain the entirety of Cobra's thread is filled to the brim with people rooting for Cobra and at least half of the Rekieta thread were former fans decrying the path he'd taken and begging him to "Pull Up" before it was too late.

 

[ye's Official KF Burner]

Then you'd be the first kiwi to care in some form about a stranger that you want them to better themselves. You have to admit that that is highly unlikely, or rather, not the case. The focus of a kiwi farmer is to point and laugh and not to care and be kind.

Depends on where you're at. This community can be super supportive, but unlike the rest of the world you won't get asspats when you fuck up, say something stupid, etc.
KFers hold the people they like and dislike accountable for the good AND the bad, and people who are used to the fake kindness of most social situations can't comprehend that.

Lolcows don't see their threads as big warning signs to turn their lives around and do better, they sink further into it which is why they're lolcows in the first place. People who see feedback or criticism as an attack are the weakest bitch made fuckers. But weaved in between the usual business here you'll find a lot of people genuinely want shitty people to do better.

 

[Terfmaster9000]

@RedPiller Why was your son focused on pedos and trannies to the point he was willing to throw his life away over them? Was he molested by his "porn star" fater? Were you obsessed with pedos and trannies yourself? Is this something he picked up form you?

 

[WelperHelper99]

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f you call weed a substance then YES. Yes I am 100%

AAAND this is why your son went off the fucking deep end. You were high as fuck and checked out of his life. He then shoots up a nightclub for attention. Yeah I see what happened VERY clearly.

 

[Get the rope Macaulay!]

which he of course lost.

maybe he shouldn't have been such a shitty parent? i'd say the big red flag was the daughter fucking the ex-con, mma, pornstar. but thats just me.

Was he molested by his "porn star" fater? Were you obsessed with pedos and trannies yourself? Is this something he piced up form you?

i'd personally love to know how her and the pornstar met, she seemed to come from good stock. Honestly that's always my favorite part about these famous criminals, their parents. Like we just learned the loudon county serial rapist was the son of another serial rapist. I think the Parkland kid's parents were a gangster and a chola who both did drive bys as teenagers and he was in contact with before committing his shooting. And now we know most of why this woman's kid committed his crime

100% shot the gay boy got rejected hard and came back with a gun. the pedo and anti-gay stuff is clearly from his parents. If they were open to their son about being gay he wouldn't feel so much shame which would lead him to going full mass shooter the second he got rejected. Its literally like that gay boy subplot in Dead Poet's society.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

I just found this thread. I simply have one reaction to this whole thing.

 

[Garamok]

Depends on where you're at. This community can be super supportive, but unlike the rest of the world you won't get asspats when you fuck up, say something stupid, etc.
KFers hold the people they like and dislike accountable for the good AND the bad, and people who are used to the fake kindness of most social situations can't comprehend that.

Lolcows don't see their threads as big warning signs to turn their lives around and do better, they sink further into it which is why they're lolcows in the first place. People who see feedback or criticism as an attack are the weakest bitch made fuckers. But weaved in between the usual business here you'll find a lot of people genuinely want shitty people to do better.

Call me pessimistic but she doesn't seem to be in the right state of mind to handle criticism without getting defensive or emotional. It seems to me that the posts are affecting her more than they should and if certain people push her enough she'll crack. She already deals with an incredibly tough situation, she doesn't understand why her son turned out the way he has and is in a major conflict with herself. Maybe she will never figure out the whole "why", it's often a waste of time to figure it out. One why I can imagine is that he was online too much, got obsessed with the pedo topic, he could have joined a woodworking class and could have learned how to build a bird house instead. Or get obsessed with chess and play in tournaments. Just don't let kids get obsessed with being online in general, one look at Twitch and YouTube should convince any parent.

 

[hideandgoseekchampion]

Watch out for isolation, mood swings, agoraphobia, lack of social skills, anger, rage, secretive. Look through your kids books to find hides in them. Look in their stereos. Pick things up and shake them to see if you hear anything inside the items. Watch for a lack of self care. Pay attention if they are staying up all night while you sleep to have conversations in secret with people. Pay attention to the books they read and the clothes they choose.

But you didnt! You failed as a mom and youll never see your kid outside of prison ever again MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hes gonna get raped for the rest of his life ROFLCOPTER

 

[libRT]

Godspeed, pedos deserve the bullet.

On the other hand.. The fucking meth head that picked a porn-star methhead giving advice on how to spot the warning signs? Fuck off. I bet you were either far too self-absorbed or too out of it to even notice any signs. The bible has plenty of warnings against being a retard whore.

You're only here for attention, you don't give a fuck about your kid.

 

[Hex Cat]

But you didnt! You failed as a mom and youll never see your kid outside of prison ever again MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hes gonna get raped for the rest of his life ROFLCOPTER

Mutts law activated

 

[CharlesBarkley]

The bible has plenty of warnings against being a retard whore.

Which is odd because Zeus was a retarded whore and everyone loved that dude. That and I guess you could classify Jacob cuz all that dude did was plow ass.

Mutts law activated

He didn’t say black. All races can rape in prison now. Except Jews, I guess, because they are kinda not good fighters. That and light skinned niggas. Light skinned niggas can’t fight.

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

Then you'd be the first kiwi to care in some form about a stranger that you want them to better themselves. You have to admit that that is highly unlikely, or rather, not the case. The focus of a kiwi farmer is to point and laugh and not to care and be kind.

Perhaps I'm too stupid for this but you can't tell me she has no choices left. As awful as it is, she still can visit and see her son. He will spend the rest of his life behind bars but it's not the end. If he was dead it really would have been the end. She can talk with him and still care about him and his needs, even if it's just talking and listening to what he wants to say. She could join self-help groups for parents with troubled kids (yes I'm aware her son killed people, but not all parents will cuss her out for it and she can perhaps learn something new or hear that she's not the only one with a troubled kid). But coming to a drama forum full with people who start salivating when they have a new person to milk is not going to help her in any way. It will just get her addicted to the adrenaline rush of having to justify herself, defend and explain her actions, and to the pleasure of the feeling that revealing everything here around drama addicts is a form of punishment and pain relief. But what is left once she is done telling every single thing? The same broken person as before but now it's online forever on a site that is closely monitored by terminally ill people who just need another good reason to start another DropKiwifarms campaign.

This is a free speech forum. There will inevitably be many who speak freely out of concern or curiosity, just as there are those who speak to mock or ridicule. People have all kinds of reasons for joining this forum because of what the rest of the internet has become.

 

[Deranged Jew]

Then you'd be the first kiwi to care in some form about a stranger that you want them to better themselves. You have to admit that that is highly unlikely, or rather, not the case. The focus of a kiwi farmer is to point and laugh and not to care and be kind.

Except at one point our dear feeder was protective of the Chris Chan and helped with budgeting and getting him to earn his own money. The focus of most here is documenting and laughing. That doesn't imply there isn't a form of care, otherwise the rule about not pozloading my neghole wouldn't be in place and people wouldn't call out weening and dox retard weens. Not many like alogs, just look at musicbizmarty and a-log himself.

 

[Why am I doing this?]

I think she's trying to find out why her son commited a massacre but is going about it in all the wrong ways. Imagine if she gone on the incel forums.

Then she would have found the truth: what no pussy does to a nigga.

 

[Bottomfeeder's Lament]

There are people like this all over America. Living on benefits, spending everything leftover after rent on weed (and/or alcohol), socially isolated except for friends who things often go badly with (as they all use each other for food/drugs/booze and fight while inebriated) and behaviorally addicted to the internet. Surface level (think Facebook) involved with conspiracy theory and shallow criticism of government. This is certainly a Gen X flavor of this type of person but it's not bound by generation.

You cannot get a deeper or straight answer from her because she doesn't have them. Her cognitive function is permanently impaired by previous serious drug use and now dampened by being as high as she can get every single day. She has simple and cliche commentary because that is what she's capable of. Additionally, this lifestyle comes with a tendency to rewrite things, exaggerate, tell tall tales, engage in self-aggrandizing or spin stories of martyrdom. You can see this in her posts - things weren't her fault, or if they were, they were totally understandable, etc. People like this weave together a palatable sob story from the actual events as a way to emotionally survive the unhappiness and misfortune of their life. They need to censor responsibility from their life narrative because they are too morally weak to bear it. It's understandable (it's a very dark and hard life to live) but a complete dead end developmentally.

This thread is riveting but only as a spectacle. There will be no insight here. We're having the virtual experience of making too long of eye contact with a woman at a public event (think parade or community barbecue) and immediately being told every bad thing that happened to her in the last 50 years of her life. This is the worst opportunity for this kind of behavior for her because thousands of people can see it and it has social and political ramifications she has no comprehension of and that can't be explained to her.

If this was a real life meeting, I would listen to her politely and neutrally, try to give her some small comfort, make sure she had access to food and a place to stay, and disentangle myself from the social situation as soon as I could. But this is the internet and she's here's forever. Fucking dismal.

 

[Unifier of Hispania]

TIL it's very Republican to have bisexual Spider Man-pornstar husbands and drug-addicted neglectful wives, as long as one makes sure that their fat loser son hates gay pedophiles (not that much to say about straight ones) and everyone involved is white. Democrats are the real whorephobic anti-drugs eugenicists!

 

[1Tonka_Truck]

Edit- Where did your retarded offspring get a bathtub's worth of ammonium nitrate? Unless your family owns a farm, you need to be somewhat clever to acquire it.

AN has been restricted as a blasting agent for 25+ years. Can't have rednecks blowing up things with fertilizer.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

It was a mistake coming to this platform and I wish you would nuke this entire thread but I understand if you don't. I don't want to cause any issues for this site. That wasn't my intention. I wanted to speak to people about their children and warning signs to look for for a possible shooting. I was looking for discussions that are productive but didn't understand this forum is NOT the place.

Bullshit. That's not what you did. You came here spouting crap and said NOTHING about "oh, I wish I'd noticed that his voiced and WRONG opinions were off the chain fucked up and he needed inpatient care." What you've posted is excusing him, defending his supposed fucked-up views. Even though he menaced you personally.

There's a lot of shit here, but it's not all shit. You didn't come here either intending or prepared for thoughtful interaction:

The woke agenda was too much for this young man to understand and process. He wasn't willing to "stand by and watch corruption take place" down the street from where he lived and slept.

Look it up online. It is NO secret the owner was promoting pedophilia, sex offender rights and minor attracted persons.

Just do your own research and you will find the owner and patrons were promoting MAP minor attracted persons events

Andy was witnessing children being sexualized, drag queens doing kids story time, child gender mutilation, the corrupt media establishment and the fixation of porn/sex in this world. He watched pedophiles get probation, cults telling young teens to murder themselves by suicide & direct them to the sites they could get at home suicide kits from.

Mother to mother: 1) dump the weed and any/every other substance. 2) Get to a safe place and get help. 3) Stop rationalizing or justifying your son's behavior: There is no justification for it. I don't know if he is intellectually disabled or what, but a lot was clearly missing from his development/ rearing. 4) Yes, you had a role in this. Could being better or choosing better have prevented it? Idk. ...but tbh you don't even sound consistently as though you think it was a bad thing.

Understand you feel anguished, but there are two incontrovertible facts: 1) he did a terrible, indefensible thing that can never be compensated for; and 2) you and his father probably bear some responsibility for your son's choices. And to the extent you are continuing behaviors that contributed, directly or indirectly, to your son's outrageous, unforgivable acts, you should put your whole life toward stopping doing those things. Level up to a minimum.

You seem to bounce between defending his views and actions, and saying "pay attention to what your kids are doing." Fair, but if you defend what he did you're still not parenting or even being a legit adult.

 

[Dick Cheney's Shotgun]

Edit- Where did your retarded offspring get a bathtub's worth of ammonium nitrate? Unless your family owns a farm, you need to be somewhat clever to acquire it.

Cold packs still have Ammonium Nitrate in them. The ingredients for making AN aren't restricted either. Some cold packs use Ammonium Calcium Nitrate (CAN) which you can easily convert into AN. It's not that hard to get AN.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Cold packs still have Ammonium Nitrate in them. The ingredients for making AN aren't restricted either. Some cold packs use Ammonium Calcium Nitrate (CAN) which you can easily convert into AN. It's not that hard to get AN.

He had over 100 pounds of it. Thats a lot of fucking cold packs.