Attempted Military Coup in Turkey Underway

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ankara-turkey-gunshot-military-coup-1.3681441
http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/turkey/1.731225

Turkish military is caliming they;'ve taken control while the official government denies the announcements.

Telegraph live feed dijo:
Yildirim says "it would be wrong to call it a coup" but that there has been an attempt by "part of the military".

He describes it as an "illegal attempt" to seize power.

Turkey would never allow any "initiative that would interrupt democracy", he said, and promised the perpetrators "will pay the highest price".

The Telegraph dijo:
Earlier, military jets were heard flying over the capital, Ankara.

Media reports said ambulances were seen in front of the Turkey's military headquarters.

Istanbul's Bosphorus Bridge and Fatih Sultan Mehmet Bridge were both closed on Friday, local television channels reported.

The Guardian dijo:
A witness in the country’s capital told Reuters that gunshots were heard as military jets and helicopters were seen flying overhead. Witnesses in Istanbul, Turkey’s biggest city, also spotted helicopters overhead, the agency reported.

Latest updates also claim that internet and communications have been shut down, but it's unclear as to weather the military or government was responsible.

Also, hilariously enough, not even 4 months ago the Turkish Military threatened legal sanctions against those spreading "false rumors" they were planning a coup.
 
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You may not have fully won yet, Turkey, but don't give up. Kebab must be removed! No matter what.
 
Yeah, as I said, the russian pilot was pretty much the perfect target, flying at a high altitude not expecting an attack, if he had considered that turkish F-16 a threat, he most likely would have hauled ass at a much lower altitude and not have allowed the turkish pilot to come so close.
>not considering a fucking F-16 Falcon a threat
>gets kill by said F-16 Falcon

Stupid fuck. Arguably the greatest fighter jet rolls up on you and its not a threat. This is like taking a stroll on the African Savannah and saying oh gee that lion is no threat, she is coming awfully close though
 
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The timing of this "coup" is also really suspect, as the long rumored announcement of US and Russia making a bi-lateral Syrian plan, which (speculated, as no details have been officially released) could even include military integration in the region based out of Jordan, has been confirmed as true. And the use of Turkey as an outpost for the US to bomb Syria is one of the main issues of the US-Turkish cooperation. The other, is cockblocking Russia. Remember that Erdogan just got in a pissing match with Russia, sure that his NATO alliance would mean the Russians wouldn't do anything drastic, and now he sees those two nations cooperating and undermining his two main reasons for support. It's not exactly a stretch to figure that the leader of a nation would have that information long before the general public did of course. It's especially telling that Kerry just threw one of the main rebel groups under a bus in the announcements of it.

“So if some critic is criticizing the United States or Russia for going after Al Nusra, which is a terrorist organization, because they’re good fighters against Assad, they have their priorities completely screwed up,” [...] What happened in Nice could just as well come from Nusra or wherever it came from as any other entity. Because that’s what they do.”

http://www.columbian.com/news/2016/jul/15/u-s-russia-agree-on-steps-for-syria/
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/16/w...a-agree-on-steps-to-combat-isis-in-syria.html

And the (alleged) text of the proposal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/r/20..._the_Joint_Implementation_Group.pdf?tid=a_inl

I'm leaning towards Reichstag Fire tbh at this point. It's all a little too convinent. It allows him to solidify power, purge the Gulen financed influence in his country and military without any question, and paint Turkey as being bullied by the big bad supernations.
 
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The timing of this "coup" is also really suspect
I think the timing of any coup, not matter what, is suspect. People will always attribute other motives besides a simple desire for power to the conspirators.
 
>not considering a fucking F-16 Falcon a threat
>gets kill by said F-16 Falcon

Stupid fuck. Arguably the greatest fighter jet rolls up on you and its not a threat. This is like taking a stroll on the African Savannah and saying oh gee that lion is no threat, she is coming awfully close though
He didn't undererstimate the capabilities of the plane, he plain out didn't know the F-16 was hostile. Unlike in your vidya games, "hostile" doesn't automatically make them a red dot on the radar.

The thing is, the turkish pilot shot down the russian plane over a really inane thing. Turkey is violating greek airspace dozens of times every month, so now they decided to shoot down a russian plane for flying through a tiny snippet of turkish land, which took the plane a whooping 10 seconds (at most) to pass over. You simply don't expect to be shot down over such a miniscule issue, if you're even aware of it. At most, there's going to be a fighter coming your way, telling you to fuck off and that's it. Guess what the russian pilot was expecting.
 
At most, there's going to be a fighter coming your way, telling you to fuck off and that's it. Guess what the russian pilot was expecting.

Russia has a habit of aggressively encroaching on other countries' airspace to see what they can get away with. They were told in pretty uncertain terms that pretty much nothing is what they can get away with as far as Turkey is concerned. If they flew over any part of undisputed U.S. airspace, I don't care if it took a tenth of a second, I hope we'd do exactly the same thing.
 
Russia has a habit of aggressively encroaching on other countries' airspace to see what they can get away with. They were told in pretty uncertain terms that pretty much nothing is what they can get away with as far as Turkey is concerned. If they flew over any part of undisputed U.S. airspace, I don't care if it took a tenth of a second, I hope we'd do exactly the same thing.
America also has a habit of doing similar things. It's why planes like the SR-71 exist, after all.
I'm not questioning the rightfulness of Turkey shooting down someone who violated their airspace, but it's still a really stupid thing to do, especially when the guy you shoot down formally works on the same side as you claim to be.

As I said, violating airspaces isn't very uncommon and usually you're just told to fuck off. In that particular case, the plane flew over a tiny stretch of land and was hit way after he already left the airspace.
 
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He didn't undererstimate the capabilities of the plane, he plain out didn't know the F-16 was hostile. Unlike in your vidya games, "hostile" doesn't automatically make them a red dot on the radar.

The thing is, the turkish pilot shot down the russian plane over a really inane thing. Turkey is violating greek airspace dozens of times every month, so now they decided to shoot down a russian plane for flying through a tiny snippet of turkish land, which took the plane a whooping 10 seconds (at most) to pass over. You simply don't expect to be shot down over such a miniscule issue, if you're even aware of it. At most, there's going to be a fighter coming your way, telling you to fuck off and that's it. Guess what the russian pilot was expecting.

That's actually a good point; territory violations are occasionally not known even when very gross, such as KAL 007.

To some, that Su-24 shootdown might seem like showboating power--and perhaps it was.

Russia has a habit of aggressively encroaching on other countries' airspace to see what they can get away with. They were told in pretty uncertain terms that pretty much nothing is what they can get away with as far as Turkey is concerned. If they flew over any part of undisputed U.S. airspace, I don't care if it took a tenth of a second, I hope we'd do exactly the same thing.

Eh, when the Russians sit outside US airspace camping you tend to hear people bitching and moaning about it when the US did precisely the same thing as policy during the 1960s particularly. I don't regard their complaints as being terribly legitimate on that basis.

As for actual violations, that is a different matter...
 
I think this is probably more like the night of the long knives than the Reichstag fire. It was probably done in part to get opponents of Erdogan to come into the open so they could get killed
Well it was basically the Beer Hall Putsch when Erdogoatfucker was arrested for violating Turkey's secular laws as Mayor of Istanbul in the 90s, so a Reichstag Fire-like incident is long overdue.
 
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Ladies and Gentlemen, hold on to your butts, this might get epic yet:

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Wikileaks suggests that it doesn't know whether or not the coup was instigated by Erdogan himself, though they say it partially might harm AKP and hints at some sort of relation to the coup.

Either way, according to a german Radio show featuring the head of the Goethe Insitute in Istanbul, there's a lot of people out on the streets of turkish cities, waving turkey flags and attacking women that are clothed "too western".
Also, rather unsurprisingly, media and religious leaders seem to pin the blame for this coup not only on the Gülen Initiative, but rather on the "intelligentsia" in general.

So yeah, Turkey apparently chose religious mumbojumbo over scholarly activities and is now going to be the next Iran.
 
F-16S, KC-135RS, A400MS: KNOWN AND UNKNOWN DETAILS ABOUT THE NIGHT OF THE TURKEY MILITARY COUP.
Here below is the account of what happened on Jul. 15, when a military takeover was attempted in Turkey. It is based on the information gathered by Turkish defense journalist Arda Mevlutoglu, by analysis of the Mode-S logs and reports that have been published by several media outlets in the aftermath of the coup.

Shortly after 22.00 local time on July 15th, air traffic control (ATC) operator in Akinci 4th Main Jet Base (MJB), an airbase located to the northwest of Ankara, contacted his counterpart at Esenboga Airport ATC. Akinci airbase is the homebase of 141, 142 and 143 Filo (Squadrons) of the Turkish Air Force (TuAF) equipped with F-16Cs.

4MJB operator informed that two local-based F-16s were going to take off, fly at 21-22,000 feet and coordination with Esenboga ATC could not be possible.

Shortly after, two F-16s calsign “Aslan 1” (“Lion 1”) and “Aslan 2” (“Lion 2”) from 141 Squadron took off from 4MJB.

After take off, Aslan 1 contacted Esenboga and requested permission to climb to the designated altitude, which was granted. When asked about the intention, the pilot replied “special mission, going to fly over Ankara city.”

Shortly after this communication, telephone calls from the city began reaching Esenboga, telling jets flying at very high-speed at low altitude. The time is around 22.20 – 22.25, as videos of F-16s flying over Ankara at rooftop level were filmed.

Puzzled by the reports, Esenboga ATC called 4MJB ATC for an explanation. The reply was: “They took off with IFF transponders switched off.” 4MJB also informed Esenboga that a new pair of F-16s with callsign “Sahin” (“Hawk”) also took off at very low altitude.

The Sahin pair threatened civilian air traffic, which was diverted through alternative approach routes.

Shortly after that, Esenboga ATC detected a KC-135R callsign “Asena 02” from Incirlik 10th Main Tanker Base (MTB). The presence of this KC-135R, from 101 Filo (whose radio callsign is “Asena”), is confirmed by Mode-S logs collected by a feeder in Ankara.

At this point Esenboga ATC had no contact with the mentioned F-16s and KC-135R. The Turkish Vipers began air-to-air refuelling from “Asena 02” periodically. Noteworthy, as many as 4 KC-135R reportedly flew from Incirlik (Asena 01 to 04 – the first appearing on the Mode-S logs).

It was reported that coup supporting aircraft and helicopters opened fire at:

  • Police Special Operations Forces headquarters at Golbasi (bombed by F-16. 47 policemen killed)
  • Police Aviation Division headquarters at Golbasi
  • Turkish Grand National Assembly building (TBMM)
  • Turkish Police general headquarters
  • MIT (national intelligence organization) headquarters at Yenimahalle
  • TurkSAT (state satellite operator) headquarters at Golbasi
  • Presidental Palace at Bestepe




For a few hours, coup F-16s flew over Ankara at very high speeds, often breaking the sound barrier at very low altitudes, releasing flares.

It was reported also that F-16s from both sides entered dogfight over Ankara and Istanbul, however no aircraft has been shot down according to the reports obtained thus far. Interestingly, one of the coup plotters aboard a “rebel” F-16 was the pilot who shot down the Russian Su-24 Fencer that had violated the Turkish airspace back in November 2015.

F-16s from Dalaman, Erzurum and Balikesir took off to intercept coup F-16s that according to the reports were as many as 6.



Merzifon 5MJB, which is one of the closest MJB’s to Ankara was at renovation and closed. All its fighters were temporarily based in Erzurum.

Meanwhile, “Asena 02” left Ankara and climbed to max operational altitude, circling over Kastamonu. Asena 03 took over its role of supporting coup F-16s. A couple of arriving F-16s were directed to Asena 02 to shoot it down, but did not do so probably due to the fact that it was flying over residential areas.

At least one AH-1 Cobra, probably an AH-1W type opened fire with its 20mm gun to protesting crowd and TBMM. This helicopter or another one repotedly opened fire at TurkSAT (State satellite operator) headquarters at Golbasi. This helicopter was reportedly shot down by a loyalist F-16.

A S-70A opened fire at the front gates of MIT campus. Reportedly tried to insert commandos to take over the facility and kidnap Hakan Fidan, head of the service. This helicopter is reportedly shot down (not confirmed).

One or two Air Force AS532 CSAR helicopters raided a wedding ceremony of a high rank general in Istanbul which was attended by many generals. CSAR commandos kidnapped them.

8 cargo aircraft (C-160 and A400M included – one using callsign “Esem 26” was in the air when the takeover unfolded) took off from Kayseri and landed at Malatya 7MJB. They were full of weapons to be used by coup.

Coup F-16s searched for President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s plane, TC-ATA around Istanbul to shoot it down. According to some media reports rebel TuAF F-16s had the plane in their sights: it’s unclear whether they had a real lock-on, rather that they probably were searching the sky for the Gulfstream IV.

Furthermore, TC-ATA used a callsign THY 8456 to disguise as a Turkish Airlines airplane (Turkish’s callsign is THY) and the risk of shooting down another plane, and losing credibility too, could be a factor affecting the coup’s F-16s to shot down his plane and kill Erdogan.

TC-ATA was flying from Dalaman to Istanbul Ataturk, which was raided by coup supporters. ATC was taken over, all lights off. Shortly before TC-ATA’s landing, it was taken from rebels.

Details of Erdogan’s flight can be found here.

Early morning of 16 July, fighters (probably F-4E 2020) from Eskisehir 2MJB bombed the main runway of 4MJB whilst at least one Turkish Air Force F-16C Block 50 was circling to the west of Ankara most probably in Combat Air Patrol. In the afternoon on the same day an E-7 AEW of 131 Filo and an F-16 of 142 Filo were flying in Ankara area, likely ready to intercept any helicopter or small plane trying to flee towards Greece.

H/T to Arda Mevlutoglu for widely contributing to this post. Additional info from @CivMilAir and @Avischarf

 
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