Worst Cartoons Ever

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Maybe I'm just harsh towards the magical girl genre to begin with. I love the genre, but I guess I just want to see something a little more original, or more of a parody, and Star doesn't deliver on that for me. Which is sad since I think there should be more Western cartoons for girls, but it's not something I'd like to show to my daughter right away. (If I were to rewatch Winx Club, I wonder if I'd end up having a similar opinion despite its nostalgic value for me.)

I find the best cartoons for girls are gender neutral shows that anyone can enjoy. Think something like the Avatar TLA series, if you want an example, or even TMNT like your avatar, or even Digimon, like your name.
It seems to me when something is 'aimed' at girls, it also gets a dumbing down; gotta make it MAGIC, cuz girls don't like violence, gotta have romance, cuz girls love love, gotta make it cute, etc.
If a show is gender neutral, it can't succumb to either gender cliche since it would lose half its core audience. But that's just my thought.

When I think about almost all of my favorite series, I feel women who appreciate story and characters can enjoy them just as much too.

Male and female characters will always be slightly different just on that aspect, but the important thing is that gender doesn't matter when it comes to story role. That's the basis of gender neutral to me.
 
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Feel not bad, but be proud, @Reynard...

Star Vs. and Steven Universe just about get my vote - despite some good ideas or moments here/there, both are horribly overrated bore-fests that really do their best to make me outright hate them, unpopular opinion or not.

Honestly, SU is the only show where the fanbase is such utter shit, such completely awful garbage people, that I literally hate it just because of its fans while barely having seen any of it at all.
 
Thank god for OpheusFTW.


Feel not bad, but be proud, @Reynard...

Star Vs. and Steven Universe just about get my vote - despite some good ideas or moments here/there, both are horribly overrated bore-fests that really do their best to make me outright hate them, unpopular opinion or not.

When a show only does stuff worth a damn only a fraction of the time in any medium (these 2 being major examples), something just ain't right here. The sad part is both examples had potential to win me over, but in the end, it feels all for naught.

Maybe if neither show was so damn popular, and as a result, everywhere on the internet, as propped up as they are, I wouldn't feel this unfortunate urge to be typing all of this out. Who knows and who cares!
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Honestly, I'd say SU is the worst of the two in almost every aspect. Both utilize the 11-minute format, thus meaning more missed opertunities. But I think the deciding factor is how they're executed in the long run.

Star Vs. dosn't try to take itself seriously most of the time, and even when it does it always finds a way to soften the blow. And the 11 minute runtime usually fits with the show's pacing. And the fact it's a Disney show means more resources spent on the animation. Whereas SU doesn't know how to manage its resources, leading to less plot focused episodes and more inconsistent animation. And when the episodes do try to be serious or plot-heavy, the time they're allotted often works against it and when they do get full 22 minute episodes to work with, they often just feel like 11 minute episodes stretched out. And the ideas they have developed are either laid on the wayside, simply unexplored altogether, or dropped for an ungodly length of time until people go "wait, that was a plot point?".

What I'm trying to say is that SU has more things going against it trying to be a plot-heavy show. Do both have unexplored ideas? Of course, most shows end up having them. The problem is that Sugar and co. are horrible at it.

Also, what's everyone's opinion on SatAM and its (unneeded) popularity?
 
Honestly, I'd say SU is the worst of the two in almost every aspect. Both utilize the 11-minute format, thus meaning more missed opertunities. But I think the deciding factor is how they're executed in the long run.

Star Vs. dosn't try to take itself seriously most of the time, and even when it does it always finds a way to soften the blow. And the 11 minute runtime usually fits with the show's pacing. And the fact it's a Disney show means more resources spent on the animation. Whereas SU doesn't know how to manage its resources, leading to less plot focused episodes and more inconsistent animation. And when the episodes do try to be serious or plot-heavy, the time they're allotted often works against it and when they do get full 22 minute episodes to work with, they often just feel like 11 minute episodes stretched out. And the ideas they have developed are either laid on the wayside, simply unexplored altogether, or dropped for an ungodly length of time until people go "wait, that was a plot point?".

What I'm trying to say is that SU has more things going against it trying to be a plot-heavy show. Do both have unexplored ideas? Of course, most shows end up having them. The problem is that Sugar and co. are horrible at it.

So... what's everyone's opinion on SatAM and its (unneeded) popularity?

1) Touche on all counts.
2) As for your SatAM question... Yeah; IMHO, It stinks!!! (x3)
 
It's not the worst show to ever exist but after King Of The Hill which was rather good I'm still not sure how Mike Judge managed to fuck up this badly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goode_Family

There's a reason it didn't last long. I feel like he almost felt since he did "the conservative side" with King of the Hill, he felt he had to do the opposite in a new show, even though the fact Hank Hill was conservative was a moot point in the overall point of the series.

The Goode Family has one joke: They're liberal!
 
There's a reason it didn't last long. I feel like he almost felt since he did "the conservative side" with King of the Hill, he felt he had to do the opposite in a new show, even though the fact Hank Hill was conservative was a moot point in the overall point of the series.

The Goode Family has one joke: They're liberal!

Political pandering of any sort in any medium == FAILURE. Unlike KoTH, which was subtle enough otherwise about its stances, THIS was not, hence its failing, @Ruin. I haven't seen the show, and knowing what I 've known about it for quite some time, I ain't about to sweat missing shit, honestly.
 
I really don't like the adult Ren and Stimpy/Ren and Stimpy: Adult Party Cartoon, it removes all of the charm from the old series and just leaves a grotesque and unfunny mess of a show.
 
Honestly, I'd say SU is the worst of the two in almost every aspect. Both utilize the 11-minute format, thus meaning more missed opertunities. But I think the deciding factor is how they're executed in the long run.

Star Vs. dosn't try to take itself seriously most of the time, and even when it does it always finds a way to soften the blow. And the 11 minute runtime usually fits with the show's pacing. And the fact it's a Disney show means more resources spent on the animation. Whereas SU doesn't know how to manage its resources, leading to less plot focused episodes and more inconsistent animation. And when the episodes do try to be serious or plot-heavy, the time they're allotted often works against it and when they do get full 22 minute episodes to work with, they often just feel like 11 minute episodes stretched out. And the ideas they have developed are either laid on the wayside, simply unexplored altogether, or dropped for an ungodly length of time until people go "wait, that was a plot point?".

What I'm trying to say is that SU has more things going against it trying to be a plot-heavy show. Do both have unexplored ideas? Of course, most shows end up having them. The problem is that Sugar and co. are horrible at it.
I don't think the fans really notice or care because I've noticed that, for something that bills itself as an action/comedy show, nobody ever seems to comment that the action is good or the comedy is funny. Always "it's so progressive!!!" I think judging a show solely on if it meets a certain progressive quota is a pretty shit reason for watching it, but I also think that talking about gender is a shit discussion topic so what do I know.
 
I don't think the fans really notice or care because I've noticed that, for something that bills itself as an action/comedy show, nobody ever seems to comment that the action is good or the comedy is funny. Always "it's so progressive!!!" I think judging a show solely on if it meets a certain progressive quota is a pretty shit reason for watching it, but I also think that talking about gender is a shit discussion topic so what do I know.

If we can confirm one thing about SU (and almost... ALMOST, but not completely Star Vs., at least IMHO), it's this - the action is crappy and the humor is pure shite. Star Vs. seems to have a better grasp on both areas, but neither the comedy or action are as good as they could be, hence my suggesting it. I know I made a wise addition with SU for those reasons alone, however.
 
I actually quite like Steven Universe, but that's probably because I sit through so much awful, awful shit that anything that has even a semblance of effort put into it seems good by comparison. Shows made for the preschool demographic are almost always barrel-scraping shitology.

* Blaze and the Monster Machines

I'll give it points for trying to teach kids about science in their own cack-handed way, but there's something so off about it all. Why are there only two humans left in this world of sentient cars? Why is one of them the main car's driver when it's been proven he can move on his own? Why is Crusher so obsessed with winning races when he can build giant world-conquering robots? Why does the channel I have to watch this dreck on insist on repeating the same episodes several times a week?

* The Mickey Mouse Clubhouse

Mickey's voice is beyond shrill, the female characters do nothing but stand around going 'Oh my!' from time to time, the camera keeps zooming and swinging around enough to make you seasick, the hot dog dance is a cacaphonic nightmare and it's a completely shameless cash grab even by Disney standards.

* Roly-Poly-Oly

Hideous, hideous design, weird 1950's nostalgia that would fly over the head of any toddler, unfinished rendering all over the place, horrible 'cutesy' voice acting and inconsistent world building.

* Horrid Henry

The animation and voice acting is actually pretty good, the stories are the usual crap but I'm mostly putting it on this list because every kid I've ever worked with has behaved worse after watching it. Henry's parents are ineffectual liberal wankbadgers.

* Thomas the Tank Engine

Not the old episodes, they were quite interesting, there were explosions sometimes and Ringo Starr's soothing voice. The newer episodes have stripped it all back so it talks down to kids and tosses out any semblance of a story for blithering idiocy. Also, an island the size of Sodor does not need a railway network of 69 trains unless the Fat Controller is running a massive drugs and money laundering empire (he probably is.)

* Bubble Guppies

Why would they set it underwater if they're just going to ignore the setting all the time? At least when Spongebob does it they take the time to break the fourth wall. The characters are indistinguishable from each other except for that one kid with the goggles who doesn't smile, and even he's boring.

* Kipper

I find its anti-cat bias offensive. And it's boring as hell.

* Dora the Explorer

I know it gets a lot of praise for being interactive, but it is painful to sit through. Nothing happens. The movie is over an hour of things not happening. The new spin-off is slightly older girls still doing nothing.

* Team Umizoomi

Ugly, and so boring I have nothing else to say about it. I think I've blanked out the hours of having to watch this with a sick child who wouldn't watch anything else.

* Sally Bollywood

It looks, sounds and is written as if by someone held at gunpoint.

I would put Barney, Boobah and that weird one about the apes who were in a band on the list but they're not animated. Waybuloo is half-animated and is boring, faux-zen crap.

If/when you have kids, watch their favourite shows with them. Otherwise you don't know what kind of crap the networks are trying to shovel into their heads.
 
I actually quite like Steven Universe, but that's probably because I sit through so much awful, awful shit that anything that has even a semblance of effort put into it seems good by comparison. Shows made for the preschool demographic are almost always barrel-scraping shitology.

* Blaze and the Monster Machines

I'll give it points for trying to teach kids about science in their own cack-handed way, but there's something so off about it all. Why are there only two humans left in this world of sentient cars? Why is one of them the main car's driver when it's been proven he can move on his own? Why is Crusher so obsessed with winning races when he can build giant world-conquering robots? Why does the channel I have to watch this dreck on insist on repeating the same episodes several times a week?

* The Mickey Mouse Clubhouse

Mickey's voice is beyond shrill, the female characters do nothing but stand around going 'Oh my!' from time to time, the camera keeps zooming and swinging around enough to make you seasick, the hot dog dance is a cacaphonic nightmare and it's a completely shameless cash grab even by Disney standards.

* Roly-Poly-Oly

Hideous, hideous design, weird 1950's nostalgia that would fly over the head of any toddler, unfinished rendering all over the place, horrible 'cutesy' voice acting and inconsistent world building.

* Horrid Henry

The animation and voice acting is actually pretty good, the stories are the usual crap but I'm mostly putting it on this list because every kid I've ever worked with has behaved worse after watching it. Henry's parents are ineffectual liberal wankbadgers.

* Thomas the Tank Engine

Not the old episodes, they were quite interesting, there were explosions sometimes and Ringo Starr's soothing voice. The newer episodes have stripped it all back so it talks down to kids and tosses out any semblance of a story for blithering idiocy. Also, an island the size of Sodor does not need a railway network of 69 trains unless the Fat Controller is running a massive drugs and money laundering empire (he probably is.)

* Bubble Guppies

Why would they set it underwater if they're just going to ignore the setting all the time? At least when Spongebob does it they take the time to break the fourth wall. The characters are indistinguishable from each other except for that one kid with the goggles who doesn't smile, and even he's boring.

* Kipper

I find its anti-cat bias offensive. And it's boring as hell.

* Dora the Explorer

I know it gets a lot of praise for being interactive, but it is painful to sit through. Nothing happens. The movie is over an hour of things not happening. The new spin-off is slightly older girls still doing nothing.

* Team Umizoomi

Ugly, and so boring I have nothing else to say about it. I think I've blanked out the hours of having to watch this with a sick child who wouldn't watch anything else.

* Sally Bollywood

It looks, sounds and is written as if by someone held at gunpoint.

I would put Barney, Boobah and that weird one about the apes who were in a band on the list but they're not animated. Waybuloo is half-animated and is boring, faux-zen crap.

If/when you have kids, watch their favourite shows with them. Otherwise you don't know what kind of crap the networks are trying to shovel into their heads.

OK... Unless you really do have or have worked with kids on the level these shows are made for, I'd stop watching them (and any others like these examples!) if I were you. Not to mention, if you are working with kids at the age range these shows are clearly aimed at - Steven Universe is definitely NOT a good option, unless you're trying to raise a bunch of SJWs, which I pray you're trying not to do, thank you very much...

Guys, I think we've got us a GoAnimate straggler here.

I can hope that's what's it and NOT what I'm suggesting. What I'm suggesting is clearly a worse thing to be caught for, honestly. Even though GoAnimate is pretty shitty, but whatever.
 
i'm gonna have to agree with steven universe.

when it came out, i really wanted to like it. prolly because the color coordinated gem characters pleased my autism. but aside from that? i don't see what's appealing about the show. and i sat through 1 season and half of the second one. i had to FORCE myself because i kept getting told it gets better. and you know what: it doesn't.

aside from the colors, the character designs are honest to god fucking ugly. in the sjw pandering kind of way. also the fuck is up with the reoccurring voldemort noses???
the humor is cringeworthy. the action is mediocre. the singing is GOD AWFUL and i am sick to death of this hipster singing scenes in all of these damn cartoons.
the show could be interesting with the premise of gem aliens and shit... but... god, steven is an insufferable character. there could probably be a better story in there somewhere if he was booted out of the show.
is this really supposed to cater to children, because i swear the only people giving it ratings are autistic tumblrinas. ( in fact i distinctly remember on tumblr when there was a false(?) scare over the show being possibly cancelled everyone reblogged some post saying 'DON'T FORGET TUNE INTO SU SO THE RATINGS CAN GO UP GUISE! SRS WE CAN'T LET THE SHOW DIE' ) honestly--there is nothing a kid could gain from this show aside from pretty colors. it would turn any kid's mind to mush.


it's laughable that people lost their minds over a crossover with uncle grandpa, because i can at least sit through uncle grandpa and be entertained. SU is just... dull.
 
Really, SU ranges between dull and flat out bad depending on who's boarding/writing the episode. And it doesn't help that most of the episodes are devoted to the townspeople or "Here's something Steven and the Gems did today!" instead of the actual plot.

And besides, the UG crossover clearly didn't take itself seriously. The only reason they hate the episode is because "It's out of place in my rock people show!" Which is odd because last I checked, selling T-Shirts and having an episode long Initial D reference weren't exactly in place either.
 
Honestly Brickleberry is shit
I don't have an issue with shock humor or dark humor but they didn't even try to be funny just tried to be shocking
 
Also, what's everyone's opinion on SatAM and its (unneeded) popularity?
I think it wasn't good and it doesn't deserve the popularity it has.
Sonic SatAM was not following the source material, the show was very displaced on terms of what it was supposed to be, an adventure of Sonic, but you could remove Sonic and Tails and the show wouldn't change.
Not to mention Sonic was an obnoxious bastard, which is odd, he seems like an actually endearing critter in the original Japanese media.

The cartoon also tried to take itself too seriously, which is very cringy because the characters are fluffy giant headed furballs, they look like something straight out from Gummy Bears, sure you can add mature themes on children's animation (like Pixar does with Toy Story and other of their films) but you need subtlety to pull off something like that with grace and not fall into the edgy and cringeworthy zone.
 
These are funny bad, but still worth mentioning, in the 80's South Korea had alot of cheap knock off anime films, I dont know how accurate this is but, supposedly in the 80s Korea had a ban on Japanese products and that included anime for the most part (ive heard they did get some before the ban was lifted in the 90s) and so some south korean animators used the character models from various Japanese anime at the time and made their own films with plots they came up with, some of these were dubbed into english and released on bargain bin vhs, and then later most famously on bargain bin dvds at wallmart.

I have this one and another one on DVD

 
I think it wasn't good and it doesn't deserve the popularity it has.
Sonic SatAM was not following the source material, the show was very displaced on terms of what it was supposed to be, an adventure of Sonic, but you could remove Sonic and Tails and the show wouldn't change.
Not to mention Sonic was an obnoxious bastard, which is odd, he seems like an actually endearing critter in the original Japanese media.

The cartoon also tried to take itself too seriously, which is very cringy because the characters are fluffy giant headed furballs, they look like something straight out from Gummy Bears, sure you can add mature themes on children's animation (like Pixar does with Toy Story and other of their films) but you need subtlety to pull off something like that with grace and not fall into the edgy and cringeworthy zone.
A lot of this could be blamed on Sega of America for wanting an edgier, louder character as they've done so with Sonic for years. Had it been done the way Japan was going with the little guy, we might not have had these cartoons at all.

Aside from what you said, a better description given about Sonic, possibly by Scott Shaw, is that he was the love child of Betty Boop and Felix the Cat. Both characters came out of that early animation period when everything was round, circular bodies with rubber hosed appendages
 
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